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<||bass> and this was the soloution i thought of that was guarinteed to piss off the greatest amount of people

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Posted on 11-01-05 11:52 AM Link
In the beginning, Acmlm's Board was created as a small community, led by Acmlm himself, for people to discuss ROM hacking. Over time, this board grew bigger and bigger, gaining members and popularity, all the while maintaining its fun, laid back attitude. And it was fun.

Then... a person came along. Initially, it seemed that this person would be another valuable, intelligent member of the community. However, it eventually became clear that this was not the case. Cool as he may have been, he gradually turned violent. Everything from flaming others to hacking the board itself. Posts deleted, accounts messed with, all manner of general havoc wreaked. And so, this person was permabanned; banished from the community for all time.

This person, as if you couldn't guess, was Xkeeper.

Skip ahead a while. Once again, we see that the board is a fun, active community, full of mostly intelligent people and always a joy to post on. Living up to its slogan, "live the fun posting experience", Acmlm's Board was one of, if not the single greatest community on the world-wide web.

And once again, Xk showed up. Just as before, he wasted little time going to work sabotaging and destroying the board. And so once again, he was banned for all time.

Over the next few years, this cycle repeated several times. Xk continued to return via various ban-bypassing methods, cause all sorts of damage - in many cases, irreperable destruction - and being banned once more. Eventually, this grew to be such a problem that more severe measures were taken. The board's very code was altered such to prevent him from returning, and the server itself was reconfigured to deny him any manner of access. Xk's continued vandalism and destruction had become such a problem that such extreme measures had to be taken to end the chaos.

Once again, Xk has returned and made himself administrator. Just as in every other case, he proceeded to destroy. Genders have been swapped back and forth so often that the entire point of the 'gender' field is lost. User accounts have been modified in every way imaginable. Posts have been rewritten and for all anyone knows deleted. And to add insult to injury, he has continued to flame and troll constantly.

Let's review. Xk has done this several times, and each time he has been banned. Clearly, the logical choice this time is to... keep him on staff and laugh as he continues wreaking havoc?

The fact that he's remained admin this long is bad enough. Now I learn that he is being given access to the very board code itself. This is akin to electing Hitler head of national security and giving him full control over all national defense systems. To take a quote from his own bio:

20:39'53"> Melvin: Your success story rivals that of Legion's.
20:40'08"> Melvin: banned
20:40'09"> Melvin: banned
20:40'10"> Melvin: banned
20:40'11"> Melvin: banned
20:40'13"> Melvin: banned some more
20:40'16"> Melvin: permabanned
20:40'18"> Melvin: banned again
20:40'20"> Melvin: HOLY SHIT ADMIN


Even worse, he has already publically threatened to do more damage:
Originally posted by Xkeeper
step one: random sexes

step two: username = md5 password

intermission: avatars and minipics changed to glitched garbage

step three: md5 password = old username, becoming impossible to log in or post

step four: ids changed


basic rundown for you.


Personally, I will be quite surprised if the board even still exists by the end of the week. If nothing else, I can almost guarantee that several unorthodox, malicious changes will be made to the code. (Unless, of course, he decides not to do so simply to spite me, but I highly doubt he'll be able to resist the temptation. )

I can only ask what bonehead made this decision. If it was in fact Acmlm's doing, then this proves that he has indeed stopped caring about the board. I have noticed some active development on his own AB 2.0, and so if this is the case, then it may be simply that he wants the current board to go out with a bang before introducing V2.0. However, this is most likely wishful thinking.
If this was not Acmlm's decision, then I think a serious review of the intentions of the person who did make it is in order. Clearly this person either does not care about the board (and for that matter, probably wishes to destroy it him/herself) or has severe mental issues, or both. Either of these traits are not good to have in an administrator.

And so, if this does go through and Xk is indeed granted access to the code, then I shall deeply mourn its eventual death. I'll stick around to see just what happens (assuming Xk doesn't forgets to edit the code to prevent me from doing so), but barring some miraculous recovery, the 'fun posting experience' shall be forever lost.

As Xk himself would have posted:
R.I.P. Acmlm's Board - 2000-2005


What happened, Xk? You used to be awesome.
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Posted on 11-01-05 01:02 PM Link
Hyperhacker, he did that hacking earlier today, but it seems like you missed it.

And i'm not worried, since he seems to be totally serious about fixing the bugs.


(edited by ^__Xkeeper^ on 11-01-05 04:07 AM)
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"Hacking the board to shit" and "helping Acmlm" are two very different things. "Ahh, what does it matter? Who cares?" Obviously some people do, which I've noticed Xkeeper fails to realize, or that he doesn't give two shits about.

Somehow I think he thinks he needs to either boast or try to prove something. But...Xk has yet to take in anything I say seriously so I'll just stop because there is no point in arguing with a wall...

Personally, I'm quite tired of this random bullshit that happens. I've been through enough board drama in the last 3 years, (ironically enough, nothing here) so I'd like to actually to go somewhere that doesn't have stupid child-shit-sense-of-humor for once.

</end rant>
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Posted on 11-01-05 02:08 PM Link
I've seen most of these 'actions', and though I see it happen, I fail to see the motive/point of it. My guess it that it's, bottom of the line, attention whoring.

XKeeper, the only thing I DO like about you is your sense of humor (in some ways), but, like I and other people at Tuvai.net already told you, you're an asshole. You've screwed up several people's (Acmlm-)boards numerious times, including this original one. You have an extremely hostile, pessimistic and disrespective attitude towards other people on the places you go to. And I'm not even specificly talking about how you behave here. Yes, you found glitches in this board's system. Confuckinggratulations, I did too in the past, but whenever I did find one it ended up with me emediately contacting Acmlm about it and in some cases even giving a fix for it. What's the point in abusing it over and over and bugging the hell out of people that merely come here to talk about their hobbies, cats and whatnot? There is no point. What ARE you trying to prove anyway? Even better, to whom are you proving yourself? Yourself?

By the way, it's kind of fun, easy and most of all cheesy to use SQL injection on a board system to destroy things. But, I wouldn't be impressed. After all, building something like this up is way harder than just destroying it using a few commands.

What baffles me also is how you morons (read: you people that own/run AcmlmBoard) tolerate this kind of stuff. Okay, so this is just yet another message board script on the whole world wide web that the world doesn't give a shit about. And legally, that won't put you in a much stronger position than, let's say, Xkeeper. You can keep backing up and restoring the board after every attack time after time, but it doesn't seem like it'll ever stop unless you either FIX those glitches/holes that are probably known by everyone else on this board now, or 2, take legal action, Oh my god, the majority of you people here are American, do I need to spell it out for you?

Sue him

Register this damn thing as a one-man company and register Acmlm as a trademark. IT costs you a few pennies a year and hey, what do you know, it puts you in a way higher position legally in cases like this. If you just have a crappy webpage with your board on it, 'the cops' won't give a shit if you bitch at them because your website got 'hacked'. If you have an actual company, even if it's just a registered one-man company, then this website/message board is your actual 'product'.

I don't know how you morons keep up with this. Obviously, banning XKeeper and telling him to go away won't work, because sadly he knows how to get around it, like every other morons that knows how to use anonymous proxies does. Maybe consider taking actual juridistic action against him, hell, even if it would cost a lot of money and time, it'd be worth it because I KNOW a lot of people would love to see XKeeper get what he deserves. Right?

But no, what do you guys do? You don't do any effort to prevent stuff like this from happening, and on top of that, give him access to the board's source code. Rediculous, that's like surrendering your hard work to a hostile take-over. Grow some balls.

Yet, in spite of all this, I still stand firm on the point that it's other matters from the past that 'destroyed' this board, not XKeeper's constant SQL injection tricks.
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Posted on 11-01-05 02:28 PM Link
Originally posted by Lenophis
I've been through enough board drama in the last 3 years, (ironically enough, nothing here) so I'd like to actually to go somewhere that doesn't have stupid child-shit-sense-of-humor for once.</end rant>


and why on earth did you ever think that you would find that here, a board dominated by kiddies in the 13-17 range??? WHAT WERE YOU THINKING.

Originally posted by HyperHacker

Personally, I will be quite surprised if the board even still exists by the end of the week. If nothing else, I can almost guarantee that several unorthodox, malicious changes will be made to the code. (Unless, of course, he decides not to do so simply to spite me, but I highly doubt he'll be able to resist the temptation. )


I seriously doubt Xkeeper cares about your opinion enough (or at all) to bother wondering if his actions will be spiting you or going along with what you said. In fact, I doubt anyone cares.

And If by "unorthodox" you mean "actually fix bugs", then possibly (I'm not garaunteeing I'm right, but I'm also not garaunteeing that I'll care if I'm wrong). I mean, you people sure have done a hell of a job neglecting any amount of security for a few years. If Xkeeper can already hack his way into accomplishing pretty much whatever he wants, why would he need need access to the code? I just can't imagine that if he had meant to take the board out completely, he probably could have done so.

Originally posted by HyperHacker

And so, if this does go through and Xk is indeed granted access to the code, then I shall deeply mourn its eventual death. I'll stick around to see just what happens (assuming Xk doesn't forgets to edit the code to prevent me from doing so), but barring some miraculous recovery, the 'fun posting experience' shall be forever lost.


Act as if it hadn't already gone to shit, but whatever.

Originally posted by Narf
Yet, in spite of all this, I still stand firm on the point that it's other matters from the past that 'destroyed' this board, not XKeeper's constant SQL injection tricks.
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First, I really didn't follow much of what has happened, so I may be quite off... But from what I've gathered:

Boredom + Attention craving + A lot of free time = Xkeeper

That's how I see it, even though I can't say I know him... Like kids, he doesn't seem to know when to stop. I've got nothing personal against him though, I don't really care actually.
However, I think that as long as he gets his fair share of attention and praises, it doesn't matter whether he does destructive or constructive things... That's why when he hinted at the fact he may get some bugs fixed, I couldn't see a reason to doubt it.
It seemed like he's been causing shit here because he got rejected / banned before... But if he official got accepted on staff now, I would assume he would stop his crap. I may be wrong though, but that was my first impression.
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Posted on 11-01-05 03:44 PM Link
I just love how one person gets you guys all worked up.

INTARNET: SRS BUZNEZ. LOL.
HyperLamer
<||bass> and this was the soloution i thought of that was guarinteed to piss off the greatest amount of people

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Posted on 11-01-05 06:07 PM Link
Originally posted by Gavin
Originally posted by Lenophis
I've been through enough board drama in the last 3 years, (ironically enough, nothing here) so I'd like to actually to go somewhere that doesn't have stupid child-shit-sense-of-humor for once.</end rant>


and why on earth did you ever think that you would find that here, a board dominated by kiddies in the 13-17 range??? WHAT WERE YOU THINKING.

Before Xk... before all the drama... that's precisely how it was.


And If by "unorthodox" you mean "actually fix bugs", then possibly (I'm not garaunteeing I'm right, but I'm also not garaunteeing that I'll care if I'm wrong).
There's nothing unorthodox about fixing bugs. What I meant was:

I'll stick around to see just what happens (assuming Xk doesn't forgets to edit the code to prevent me from doing so)

He's already taken the time to fuck with my account several times within the last few weeks. What would make you think he won't take the time to add one or two queries to random places to fuck with it further?


I mean, you people sure have done a hell of a job neglecting any amount of security for a few years.
If it were up to me, security would be absolute priority. The lack of security is ridiculous, but I can't very well do much about it.
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Posted on 11-01-05 06:09 PM Link
Xkeeper is an attention whore. Simple as that.
He got Acmlm on his side too. (that's why it's pointless to do what you said, Tuvai. Acmlm is against us, bass stopped caring because of that)


(edited by knuck on 11-01-05 09:11 AM)
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I always knew there was something strange about XKeeper being an Admin. He banned my brother from this board for no reason and what is with all the other XKeepers all of a sudden (i.e. SeXKeeper and there is a few more too). Can't Acmlm or any other admin (if there is any) ban him AGAIN and AGAIN or at least demote hime?
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What part of "Acmlm is on his side" didn't you get?
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I agree with Narf the most with this one.
I recently made a thread about this exact situation, and it turned out as a spam thread about re-arranging the letters of his name to get different words.
Talk about going off-topic!

Thanks for mentioning cats, Narf!

I'm glad to see some "higher up" members of the board finally posting about this, but my thread was still useless. I basically got told to get over it, and that this is just a message board.

Knuck: I in no way mean for this to be offensive, as I know how pissed off you can get for no apparent reason, but how do you know that Acmlm is on his side?
Why would he do that?

Is it just that every attempt to do something about this turns out to be a waste of time?
Will we just have to suck it all up, and get used to the fact that this once highly intelligent place will just turn out like kindergarten play-time?
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Posted on 11-01-05 07:21 PM Link
HH: You were the one who used the password stealing trick to take Hiryuu's password and mess around for a bit. In that respect, you're lucky that you weren't punished.

Now, for everyone who's predicting doom and gloom... if you don't like it, GTFO. I've talked to Xk about this and he's only getting code access so he can:

- Add stuff to the board (new schemes, ranks, PHOTO ALBUM UPDATE, etc.)
- Fix bugs (basically all the holes that ||bass didn't bother to fix because he lost his will)
- Actually do some stuff since we have no active developers. ||bass is gone apparently and Kas is busy with her new job.

As well, the majority of the staff is going along with this and if you wanted me to reason this, I'd say that it's better having SOMEONE working on the board than nobody at all. Plus at least it's someone who Milly does like, meaning that Milly trusts him somewhat with the board. (And Milly's also working on his own project too.)

Oh, and knuck... Milly ISN'T against us. He was actually HAPPY when we started to have some actual fun a while back. He wouldn't hand the keys to Xk for now if he was just going to level the place.
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Posted on 11-01-05 07:23 PM Link
Originally posted by Scatterheart
Knuck: I in no way mean for this to be offensive, as I know how pissed off you can get for no apparent reason, but how do you know that Acmlm is on his side?
Why would he do that?
Who do you think that have been making xkeeper admin all those times? Certainly not Jesus.

Colleen when I said "us" I meant the cool people from the board. (not you)
Originally posted by Xkitten
I've talked to Xk about this and he's only getting code access so he can:

- Add stuff to the board (new schemes, ranks, PHOTO ALBUM UPDATE, etc.)
- Fix bugs (basically all the holes that ||bass didn't bother to fix because he lost his will)
- Actually do some stuff since we have no active developers. ||bass is gone apparently and Kas is busy with her new job.

Yeah that explains yesterday. My bad.

Originally posted by Xkitten
As well, the majority of the staff is going along with this
Well of course staff is full of xkeeper friends . lol hiryuu who shouldnt be there in first place

Originally posted by Xkitten
and if you wanted me to reason this, I'd say that it's better having SOMEONE working on the board than nobody at all.
Yeah he is working for the good of the board.



(edited by knuck on 11-01-05 10:25 AM)
(edited by knuck on 11-01-05 10:29 AM)
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knuck: Don't flatter your group by saying you guys are cool. If you guys were cool... well, you'd be more respected around here, basically.

And what, if I may ask, happened yesterday? In all honesty... nothing major. Heck, nothing even close to what was done before (for example, making sex = 2 or something).
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Yeah just all the users got their names and passwords changed. And an ID change too if I'm not worng.
sex=2 is worse. srsly

Colleen: your group (xk prier Colleen and friends ) doesnt respect us
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Okay.....

SeXkeeper = Grey
Xkitten = Colleen
^__Xkeeper^ = Kitten Yiffer
Xkeeper = The Real Deal
Xkeeper-San = DarkSlaya
Xkeeper 2.0 = Skateboarder11
Xkeeper = Shyguy
ExKay = Ice Man

And that's all you need to know.

Knuck: Most of Xkeeper's latest adminations have been his own doing.

The Rest of You: Xkeeper's not whoring for his own attention, he's whoring for attention to be brought to HyperHacker's "Ridiculous amount of security holes" in the board. HH is right about one thing, they do exist.

But, HH, you're wrong about another thing. Xkeeper fucked with your account because you adminned yourself through a security exploit that was very similar to the ones he was joking around with and banned him seriously, assuming you were fearful of his "hacking", which already happened and was completely and fully restored and repaired. BY HIM. And aside from that, all he really did was ban you. Excuse me. Your alternate account.

Now the bottom line is that HH is in a serious, SERIOUS minority on the Xkeeper trust issue. This thread has no point.

But I'm not gonna close it!

EDIT: HEY KNUCK:

You, Legion, and everyone else all rule when you're not pissing on other people.


(edited by SeXkeeper on 11-01-05 10:38 AM)
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What's with all this emo bullshit about the board dying!? Seriously, what... THE... fuck? I don't see any "damage" done to the board. Like all good things, they have to end sometime, I'm sure as hell not gonna post here when I turn thirty and orinyder has grandchildren. I like all the sentiments said but this is ridiculous. Oh wahh, the board got haxxored by Xkeeper again! What will we do? It's always coming back. I'm pretty sure this board can last another year or two, or three.
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Cruel justice just shut up.
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And as a coup de grace, Things Hiryuu Has Said On The Subject of Xkeeper:

"this thread's moot."

"Blashit isn't Blashit."

"Well, if you care enough, that is."

Hiryuu: "Do I get to ban macks for 'extremly'?"
Macks: "yes "
Hiryuu: "K. [b&]"

"Yes, said the kindly mexican gentleman."

"Originally posted by NSNick
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But... I don't have any tow cables!
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Oh, conundrum..."

AND HIS LAST COMMENT ON HIM IN THE DT WAS TWO MONTHS AGO.

EDIT: ONOES I LEAKED


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