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Posted on 10-23-05 10:13 AM Link | Quote
This is my first post here, and this is why I came here.

I had a concern lately. AJAX is seemingly the way of the future for all interactive websites. However, I haven't found one host to start developing besides my local machine - tough luck.

This is also the problem with Ruby currently for myself.

I want to start developing and keying in on code and start the learning process since in about 2 months, I will be using the above in a wide scale website(details later, i'm still working with venture capitalists to grant me the money to get started.)

So, anyone have a AJAX server set up, or know where I can get some hosting for developing mini-scale projects(mainly just testing and playing around on the web, so not only can I see the results, but users can too.)?

I haven't programmed in PHP in about a year, and my MySQL skills are almost non-existant. I'm hoping through the course of this time that I get a better understanding of AJAX and RUBY oriented systems. As well as network with a few individuals to maybe outsource some of the home-based database/programming in the future to some likely people here.

Thank you.
Gavin

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Posted on 10-23-05 10:44 AM Link | Quote
Hi Financial Technology.

Well, first off I would like to say that the AJAX-umbrella technologies are really awesome and can definetly be used for some really fun stuff. However, it's really not the panacea that it is made out to be in the press. I simply mean that there are times to use AJAX, and there are times to use other methods. AJAX Iin correct contexts) simply adds a more responsive and streamlined retrieval of data and delivery of content.

Now, that said, I still think AJAX is badass

Just to clear up a quick point for you: The cool thing about AJAX is that all the work and this "new" functionality is made by additions on the client-side. That is to say that the server/web host doesn't have to change anything with it's current setup whatsoever; the functions and methods are programmed into the web browser itself and utilized by Javascript/JScript (Mozilla and IE's ECMAScript implimentations). So it is somewhat of a misnomer to be looking for an "AJAX server".

Maybe one could say an "AJAX ready server", which most would be by default, as long as they have a database to work with and server-side-scripting software to interact with, of course. That means that the client-side code, the AJAX, does not have to be specifically tailored to a certain language. You could send the same AJAX request to a PHP page as you could an ASP page, as long as the browser supports it and the server has a way of manipulating GET and POST variables (they all do)

Oddly enough, I'm planning on working with Ruby within the next month (which I had planned to do several months earlier but certain projects have been tying me up).

Unfortunatly I don't have a very good answer to your main question. I pretty much develop everything locally and most of my projects are personal or not yet ready for public viewing, so I haven't bought out my own domain yet. Currently I host my projects on space provided graciously by a friend. I have heard that Lunar Pages has some cheap hosting.. and in my opinion, most prices are cheap enough that, even for smaller projects, getting your own domain and space is practical. I'm hoping/guessing there people here who know a lot more about hosting prices than myself.

I have been programming in PHP, and specifically with MySQL database interaction, for quite some time. If you need some advice or consultation drop me an email (gavin.b.lynch[at]gmail.com). Also, if you're looking for solid developers, I can send you a copy of my resume.
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Posted on 10-24-05 01:36 AM Link | Quote
I understand. So that's good that I can run it off any server.

Currently my team is finalizing our proposal for our business idea/concept before we submit it in about 2 weeks. We're likely to get anywhere from 10000-20000 U.S. dollars to start out project in which we start at the end of December working on it. By june we should have a beta version released.

So yeah, we might have to outsource or get some outside developers on these projects - if not just opinions on how to function the site better and offer solutions. Currently however, that is not likely due to a vast amount of programmers/consultants on the team - mainly five 20 year-olds working on the project.

All I gotta say as this prorject will be one of the most functional user-interactive systems that will make money.

I wrote down your e-mail. If anything arises and we need help, I will let you know. But i'll be around here for as long as I can.

Also, I might need the owner of this board in the future to send us a copy of this board(i'm guessing it's freeware?) Since we plan on using a posting board for several components of the site.



Thanks for the link, i'm going to set up a domain soon on my mother's hosting account for developers to mess around with. Maybe I could offer some developer webspace to some around here to further develop some ajax and ruby scripting.

Sukasa

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Posted on 10-24-05 02:07 AM Link | Quote
Actually, you can download the available versions of this board's software from ./versions.php, or by clicking the "AcmlmBoard v1.B0 (8/12/05)" link at the bottom of the page. Only version 1.A3 (one version earlier than this one) is available for download, since the staff are working on the version 2.0, which is supposed to utilize more of PHP's newer functions (As far as I recall) and really clean up the code.
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Posted on 10-24-05 04:08 AM Link | Quote
Yeh, I can wait on that one. Rather have the most recent release. Besides I have till december to start actually programming the real site.

Thanks for the info.
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