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Clockworkz

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Posted on 10-22-05 09:22 AM Link | Quote
I just got back from my second outing with a girl I've been keeping in close contact with. It went very well. It even ended with a hug. What I want to know is how to get out of that dreaded "Friend Zone" (aah! help! i'm in the friend zone! oh no!), and get to the next level. the part with the casual smooches and snuggling up next to a fire watching some chick flick to make her happy and to show I care. I really care about her, I think she knows it, and I can tell she likes me, because, being a naturaly quiet person, she won't shut up when talking to me. 3 hours. That's our last IM convo. So... advice, please?
Slay

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Posted on 10-24-05 05:42 PM Link | Quote
Now, I could be misinterpreting or I may be reading you incorrectly, but from the way you word that, it seems to me that you only dread being in the "friend zone" because it's so stigmatized (may I note, mostly by lame, sexist standup comics), and not because you genuinely dislike the place you're in. You have to ask yourself, "What is it I want out of this relationship?" If you're already close, and physically affectionate to some degree, what else do you desire? Just sex? If so, you are quite young for such a thing...

Of course, "getting to the next level" isn't always as glamorous and terrific as it may seem. With whatever it is more that you're seeking comes added responsibility. To become girlfriend and boyfriend, you'd have to spend a lot more time together, and from the way you describe her as quite chatty, she seems like she might be clingy and give you no personal space or "away" time. Not to mention the fact that you'll have to start buying her gifts for the holiday and her birthday, and you'll have to start paying for all your outings, and since you're seventeen, you might not even have a job.

But please, correct me if I'm wrong about your intentions and desires. I don't know you personally, and you weren't very specific, so there's a good chance I misinterpreted something. I don't mean to offend, but I'm impatient and spur-of-the-moment, so I couldn't have just said, "more info please" and reserved my advice for later.

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(edited by Slay on 10-24-05 08:43 AM)
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Posted on 10-24-05 05:47 PM Link | Quote
Kiss her.
Clockworkz

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Posted on 10-24-05 07:20 PM Link | Quote
Slay: Yes, lame stand ups do give me stuf like that sometimes. It was merely a reference.
She's not clingy, she just likes to talk when I'm around, and she's a generally quiet girl in school around everyone else except her friends. Shy, really. I went out with her again recently, and we saw Waiting together. She loved it. At the end of the night, I got a hug, so, yeah. I'm a very lonely, depressed man. I have a job, I pay for everything as it is. I'm now out 19 bucks cause of that movie, but it was worth it. On Friday, I'll be spending the afternoon at her place with her friends for a movie night in the basement. Sounds fun. Any advice is appreciative.
Leg: I'm working up to it. I don't want to seem pushy.
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Posted on 10-24-05 07:35 PM Link | Quote
You wont seem pushy, you're already past your second date. You're a little late actually, but not too late. D:
Clockworkz

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Posted on 10-26-05 04:13 PM Link | Quote
Dude, here's the thing. I met her the first week of October. SInce then, we've stayed in touch via AIM and cell phones, and we've been together twice. This Friday, she invited me to a movie night at her place with her friends (guys and girls), wherein we all watch movies for about 6 hours straight. I doubt I can kiss her then, if she's even ready for it after 20 days. Besides; I'm still not 100% on how she feels about me yet
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Posted on 10-26-05 09:39 PM Link | Quote
Why don't you just tell her that you're interested in becoming more than friends, then ask her how she feels about you?
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Posted on 10-27-05 08:21 PM Link | Quote
Yeah, after the hug, just kiss her. Tell her you're having a good time with her, that it was a good date and all. You won't seem too pushy, don't worry.
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Posted on 10-28-05 04:57 AM Link | Quote
A lot of girls are what I call hug whores, meaning they hug everyone and anyone without any meaning to it. That doesn't mean that her hug for you didn't mean anything, but don't look too far into it. If you want to know if she likes you, you have to take a step in that direction and do something. Since you aren't dating (right?) then ask her out, and make sure she knows it's not just a friend date, but a real one. See how she takes it. If all goes well, maybe you could kiss her. Maybe you would want to wait. It's really up to you. But I don't think playing a guessing game like you are now will work.
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Posted on 10-28-05 06:10 AM Link | Quote
Yeah, go with what Danielle said. Oh yeah, what she said about Hug whores or whatever is true. A lot of girls do that so don't take it too much to heart. Just really ask her out, straight up, like to go to the movies or something. Maybe even to go kick it at the mall or something .
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Posted on 10-29-05 06:14 AM Link | Quote
Thank you for all your help. I told her how I feel, and if she want's to become boyfriend/girlfriend. She said yes.
Thank you, all
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Posted on 10-29-05 07:30 AM Link | Quote
Good job, dude!
I guess words can be a powerful thing.
I'll remember that.
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Posted on 10-29-05 08:51 AM Link | Quote
Congrats man. That wasn't so hard, was it?
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Posted on 10-29-05 04:35 PM Link | Quote
Ahh, I like a happy ending (or do I?)









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Posted on 10-30-05 02:09 PM Link | Quote
The Danielle says...
A lot of girls are what I call hug whores, meaning they hug everyone and anyone without any meaning to it.


You say that as if there's something wrong with it...
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Posted on 10-30-05 07:25 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Slay
The Danielle says...
A lot of girls are what I call hug whores, meaning they hug everyone and anyone without any meaning to it.


You say that as if there's something wrong with it...

It can blur the lines of affection.
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Posted on 10-30-05 11:25 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Slay
The Danielle says...
A lot of girls are what I call hug whores, meaning they hug everyone and anyone without any meaning to it.


You say that as if there's something wrong with it...

Why would it be a good thing in this situation?
Clockworkz

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Posted on 10-31-05 05:42 AM Link | Quote
Now we've been hanging out on a regular basis. Dinner at my place, she met the folks, my sister and her finacee, we've kissed (well, I've kissed her; didn't get one back. It's only been on the cheek, and only a couple times), and I can tell she really cares about me as much as I do. I don't think she wants to rush things, so I'm going to back off just a bit.
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