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alte Hexe

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Posted on 03-15-04 09:20 PM Link | Quote
Almost as potentially virulent as Legion's thread...More or less the same rules...

1. Specify your political vantage point
2. Why
3. What other ones could you agree with
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Posted on 03-15-04 09:22 PM Link | Quote
I am liberal on some issues, conservative on others. But for the most part, I am Marxist. I believe that having everyone equal economically would be a dream come true.
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Posted on 03-15-04 09:38 PM Link | Quote
May I suggest a website for those who aren't exactly sure where they stand on thier political beliefs?

Meet Political Compass.

It was unbiased enough to get put into school curriculum around here, so I figure it's unbaised enough for us. Just take the test, upload your results to your host, and link them.

As for me, Click here and view the graph.

I'm more or less smack dab in the middle of the liberals, with half of them being more liberal than me and half of them being more conservative than me.

Asking me "why" I have many views is an odd question, as the views I take are simply the ones I see, the ones that logic and reason present to me as the best solution.

I see the thought behind some Marxist thought, although I'd die before I became a libertarian. I'm obviously in disagreement with most of the conseratives, as I'm diametraically opposed to them by being liberal
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Posted on 03-15-04 09:47 PM Link | Quote
I'm an anarchist communist, according to that compass. I have the same beliefs in politics as Ghandi, the Dalai Llama or Nelson Mendela. No racism, absolute rights for the people, and a strong government controlled economy.

I belong to the New Democratic Party of Canada. Effectively, our Socialist party. It's the only one that I agree with.


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Posted on 03-15-04 09:51 PM Link | Quote
I'm so liberal, I won't even make right turns. I live in Illinois, and the HOR was here, and I was screaming, I won't go to class, theres a dirty republican in there. I got suspended for it.
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Posted on 03-15-04 10:11 PM Link | Quote
According to the compass, I am a couple points left (but not below or above) Nelson Mandela. Well, I suppose that's better than being on the FAR FAR left.
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Posted on 03-15-04 11:38 PM Link | Quote
I am a member of a political party, actually. The Socialist Left Party of Norway, or SV [Sosialistisk Venstreparti], as it is called in Norway.

I agree with them on most issues, (of course) not all, but, most importantly, I believe that they hold the undoubtably best education and environment policies. I feel that education and environment are the two most important things to deal with, so SV was the definite choice for me.

So, yeah, I guess you could call me a Socialist, if you want. I feel it is important to note, though, that Socialist != Communist, even though a lot of people like to believe that.
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Posted on 03-16-04 12:15 AM Link | Quote
There is nothing wrong with communism, just how it was used.

According to the compass, I was liberal, and the closest person was Pope John, he's was up in wazooland though.
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Posted on 03-16-04 12:19 AM Link | Quote
I never said there was anything wrong with communism. It's just that a lot of people like to think that Communism = Bad, and that Socialism = Communism = Bad. So I'd just like to clear that up right there and now. To avoid confusion and such.
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Posted on 03-16-04 12:22 AM Link | Quote
Yep yep, I sort of phrased that wrong.

I think both socialism and communism would be good if someone actually got it to function the way it should .
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Posted on 03-16-04 12:51 AM Link | Quote
  • I believe communism is the best type government ever though up so far
  • communism is not a practical government unless it's people think uniformly
  • i have a lot of democratic-type views but I'm not a democrat


hmm...took that test...and i got
-2.62 economic
-1.64 social

hmm...that puts me in a similar camp as nelson mandela and the dalai lama
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Posted on 03-16-04 12:52 AM Link | Quote
That's the problem, nobody will ever be willing to give up everything they have, even if it can make things better.
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Posted on 03-16-04 12:54 AM Link | Quote
ACcording to the Compass, I was in the Communist/Anarchist area, near The Daila Lama ...

I think Communism is the wrong way to go, the economy should only be controlled enough that it doesnt hurt consumers...
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Posted on 03-16-04 01:05 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Toxic
There is nothing wrong with communism, just how it was used.


Um, communism really has yet to be put into practice. Many totalitarians have CLAIMED to be communist, but they aren't.
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Posted on 03-16-04 01:06 AM Link | Quote
I'm just saying.

When somone says Stalin, it's just communism. They used that as an excuse to abuse the powers that it granted, ie total control.
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Posted on 03-16-04 01:30 AM Link | Quote
yeah...if you did read the Communist Manifesto, it is supposed to be the nation that brings communism into power because of the industrial stregth of the country (or something like that), but not an individual or two...
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Posted on 03-16-04 01:48 AM Link | Quote
Well, I say that I'm a bit of a left (-2.50 economic scale, -2.67 social scale) on the test that I took, but I would think myself as a moderate on things, because I feel that having a mix of sides of the things are much better than just one.
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Posted on 03-16-04 02:00 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Waddler-D
Well, I say that I'm a bit of a left (-2.50 economic scale, -2.67 social scale) on the test that I took, but I would think myself as a moderate on things, because I feel that having a mix of sides of the things are much better than just one.


For reference:

Between 0 and 2.5 in any direction is rather moderate.
Between 2.5 and 5 in any direction is noticably leaning towards that side.
Between 5 and 7.5 in any direction is definately towards that side.
Between 7.5 and 10 means you probably need to be locked up in a nice white room.

Obviously, it goes in shades of grey. A rating of 2.50001 is going to show a lot of moderateness, while a 4.999999 will not.


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Posted on 03-16-04 06:52 AM Link | Quote
According to that test...

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -1.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.23
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I'm a pretty big lefty - I'm pretty much a socialist. (Of course, I contradict this by working as a capitalist. ) I like big government, but not TOO big of government. Such as, I'd like the states to have the freedom to make their own choices, but I'd want the federal government to watch over them and make sure they don't do stupid things with, say, federally granted money. I'd also like federally funded schools and health care and so forth. I don't really have to say a lot towards freedom and rights, hey? I may like big government, but I want the people to have as much freedom as they should. This is, of course, within reason - i.e., I fully and utterly support gay marriages, both civil and in church.

Also, I like a government with good foreign affairs - not just a good domestic policy, but a balance of the two. (Unfortunately, the US hasn't really seen that since the days of JFK)

Basically, I guess my point of view could be boiled down to political moderation. Not too much of one thing and not too much of the other. I'm sure Aristotle would be proud and Hobbes would be jumping down my throat. O_o

Just on a side note! Like others, I'd really love to see communism work. If we could have a leader who wouldn't turn into a psychotic despot on the people, I would fully support a communist state. But unfortunately, I don't think such a thing is going to happen for a while...
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