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Stifu Level: 28  Posts: 228/304 EXP: 129458 For next: 1880 Since: 03-16-04 From: Your mom's bed Since last post: 18 hours Last activity: 11 hours |
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Originally posted by HyperHacker Actually, I can understand... Sure, for one person, it's just a few minutes... But there's rarely just one person. I just never stops... Picture that, it's a bit like you're eating at a table with a lot of people... You start serving food to one person, then you'll feel forced to serve everyone else... And by the time you'll be done serving everyone, you'd be the only one left sitting at the table, with cold food in your plate. I think I can understand how FuSoYa feels. For example, some people ask questions on my board, and sometimes I know the answer, but don't reply... Because I'm doing other things at the time, because I know other people know the answer too, or because the answer is easy or documented everywhere, etc... Then a couple of days later, if no one has answered, then yeah, I would end up doing so myself. |
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BGNG Snifit Level: 22  Posts: 268/276 EXP: 56579 For next: 1771 Since: 06-03-05 Since last post: 8 days Last activity: 3 hours |
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Originally posted by The KinsIf I chose to take this out of context, I could make any number of resultions about your intelligence and attitude based on the presence of one word in one of your posts. And no: I didn't say I wanted to do a community hack. I said I'd be willing to take part in one, but I'm not clammoring to recruit support for such a conquest. I'm writing a cross-platform BASIC compiler. Doing a hack would take time away from what I DO want to do. But if it helps to improve the quality of this community, I'd do it. |
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Stifu Level: 28 Posts: 229/304 EXP: 129458 For next: 1880 Since: 03-16-04 From: Your mom's bed Since last post: 18 hours Last activity: 11 hours |
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Originally posted by BGNG Thanks for sacrifying yourself to save us all, Jesus. |
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BGNG Snifit Level: 22 Posts: 269/276 EXP: 56579 For next: 1771 Since: 06-03-05 Since last post: 8 days Last activity: 3 hours |
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| It beats spitting in the face of everyone else because I don't care about them. | |||
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Stifu Level: 28 Posts: 230/304 EXP: 129458 For next: 1880 Since: 03-16-04 From: Your mom's bed Since last post: 18 hours Last activity: 11 hours |
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| If you start teaming up for a project but don't actually really want to work on it, and would rather work on something else, then I don't think it's really going to work well. (edited by Stifu on 10-07-05 11:10 AM) |
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Sukasa Boomboom Error 349857348734534: The system experienced an error. Level: 57  Posts: 1905/1981 EXP: 1446921 For next: 39007 Since: 02-06-05 From: *Shrug* Since last post: 6 days Last activity: 1 day |
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| Well said, stifu. Now, for a slightly different topic that ties in with a 'sad' stawet solution- I need feedback on a site design like this: Homepage--News--Contact info--other pages | Document page----------Upload script | | Lookup script Classification and storage | Slected document Basically, the site has a central system where the end user can either access a database of all available documents, sorted as game-inspecific or for a particular game, and there is also an upload page for authors who want to upload a new page or modify an old one, and if it's new, another page where they declare either A) it's game-inspecific, or B) it is for a particular game, Which can be selected from a drop-down menu, or if the game is not in the database, a new entry for a game can be made. (edited by Sukasa on 10-07-05 01:51 PM) |
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asdf Cukeman Level: 28 Posts: 282/303 EXP: 128796 For next: 2542 Since: 03-16-04 Since last post: 5 hours Last activity: 54 min. |
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| Now, now, The Kins, not even a n00b would do something like that. On top of that, I was talking about bright colors that are not flashing. | |||
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Glyph Phoenix Level: 39  Posts: 618/745 EXP: 385876 For next: 18895 Since: 11-07-04 Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Originally posted by asdf Eheh. No. People demanding that HDMA is used need to rethink things, but you can hardly blame information sharing for that. Originally posted by asdf You know why we complain about bright palettes, screenless threads, and unoriginal ideas? Because they suck. Honestly, you're angry at people.... because they don't like these awful, awful things? Originally posted by The Kins Heh. You totally zinged that word, man. Really, though, we should probably toss out that word in favor of something more accurate. Because it's not new-ness we're against, or lack of a knowledge base, it's unwillingness to look at obvious sources for easy to find information and just general stupidity. Originally posted by HyperHacker There's been a major misunderstanding here, methinks. When one says "n00b", one usually means idiotic newbie. Not those willing to learn (and willing to study themselves rather than make a topic before checking around). What it really is: anti-idiot sentiment misunderstood. Originally posted by BGNGOriginally posted by The KinsIf I chose to take this out of context, I could make any number of resultions about your intelligence and attitude based on the presence of one word in one of your posts. Ahaha. No, you couldn't. Not without looking like an idiot. Did I base this idiot judgement off of just one meaningless word? No, I based it off of this solid example of your stupidity. See how that works? No? Well, you'll get it eventually. Originally posted by BGNG You know why Stifu made that "Jesus" remark? Because you look really foolish saying that grudgingly making compilers going to help anything. Even if that actually helped (BASIC compiler? Yeah, that's going to save the community.) there are lots of communities that need help. If you're not having fun helping this one, then leave. |
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FuSoYa Defender of Relm Level: 26  Posts: 248/255 EXP: 99529 For next: 2746 Since: 03-15-04 From: Moon Since last post: 7 days Last activity: 7 hours |
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| Sorry if it's bothering you, but I simply can't understand how looking up a piece of information in your notes is going to stop you from getting your own things done. It takes me an average of one minute every time someone asks me to look something up, 3 if it's not filed correctly and I have to search for it. Unless your notes are horribly messy, well that's just bad practice. I've already explained this several times before...  Most of my "notes" are on paper from the pre-LM 1.0 days, which have little of interest to anyone, including myself. And no, I do not have a scanner, so don't even ask. As for "notes" on my hard drive, the majority of those are just uncommented ASM traces for objects and such. 90% of the things I look up for people I either remember vaguely from memory, find in the LM source, do a trace for, or find in my mail because I've done a trace for someone else at one point. That takes time. In particular, I'm talking about this sort of thing, which somewhat contradicts what you've said: I'm afraid I don't follow. What contradiction? See, I don't feel like doing a lot of things that I do for others, but I do them anyway to help people. That's nice, but it's hardly required that you always help people whether you feel like you have the time and resources or not. And expecting that people should always be available to give up their time for you at any moment for no reason, is simply wrong. It is, in fact, utterly selfish. People ask me to look something up while I'm working all the time, and it's never stopped me from finishing what I was working on (unless I didn't know the answer and suddenly decided to find out ). Interesting how you seem to just keep making comparisons to yourself... Yes HH, I can see that you apparently have plenty of time to spend on such things. Good for you. But perhaps you should try thinking about it from someone else's perspective for a change. If you don't want to post your information or if you've done such a crappy job filing it that it becomes a chore, then fine. I appreciate all the help you have given everyone already. Fine. So I respectfully ask that you stop bringing me up as an example of hording. As I said, it's rude.  Er... what do you mean by 'enough room'? Enough room, as in we can all be part of the same scene and get along. We can all have a part to play. Making unreasonable complaints such as what you're doing now merely makes people feel unwelcome. And as I said, that's a pretty strange way to build a community. |
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Mega-Dog Level: 20  Posts: 125/139 EXP: 40051 For next: 2388 Since: 03-15-04 From: Minnesota Since last post: 8 days Last activity: 4 days |
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| OK...I am late in joining in this topic but this is my opion. I Started rom hacking like 3-4 years ago. I thought it was tough. I started with my first Metroid Hack which at 1 time I said I gave up cause I was getting into HEX editing, something I have never done. As you can tell I never gave up, I just noticed how hard it was to HEX edit so I started HEX editing a few games like Arkanoid and Bubble Bobble and found data. I saw a few other editors and was thinking well maybe I can make one...make it easier for the newbies to hack. Well I did and I got a few positive responses. As alot of you may know I splash in and out of the rom hacking world...I have many issues in my life and hacking is a minor side project. I have people saying to me even friends that I should drop rom hacking since I don't do much, but I belive making editors is more than enough. None of my stuff has ever been open source. I am always like that cause when you own a programming company for over 10 years now you learn about marketing and such, that is why I obtained the DogSoft copyright. Alot of people might not know but I have some programs for sale that do range in the $100-$1000 of dollars, but rarely get sold nowdays, but I do make alot of the programs freeware since it would be dumb cause I know a rom hacker would just pirate my utility! But as being a creator I always do take in suggestions and share info if someone requests it. I had someone asking about Ghost N Goblins item info...well I emailed them my DOC. I also posted my DOC one editing Metroid Items.No matter what I should speak for most of the uitilite makers and editor makers, you should be thanking us cause to make these editors we do have to hack the rom inside out cause alot of the games do not have doc's or any info about them. There should though be some kind of thread for us creators cause I know I talked to Dan about this, we should be talking...do you want to see 2 of the same editors...how do you know that someone is not working on an editor. I am usually quiet about mine, but as I program them I get too excited so I have to post about them. I do like the idea about the Archive, but as far as Zophar...well they never seem to update...and they never post editors on time...If someone did start an archive I do have all my programs on my website. The only problem with an Archive is what if the Archive goes down...and how do we get stuff submited...I found and posted the Bionic Commando Editors which were in 0 archives I have found. *longest post in about 2-3 years!* |
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BGNG Snifit Level: 22 Posts: 270/276 EXP: 56579 For next: 1771 Since: 06-03-05 Since last post: 8 days Last activity: 3 hours |
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Originally posted by Glyph PhoenixWhat solid example might that be? The one where I failed to refer you to a moderator? Be disgruntled. That's fine. Flaming another member due to a difference in opinion? Not so fine. Keep things civil. There's no need to assault someone else because of a suggestion.Originally posted by BGNGAhaha. No, you couldn't. Not without looking like an idiot. Did I base this idiot judgement off of just one meaningless word? No, I based it off of this solid example of your stupidity. See how that works? No? Well, you'll get it eventually. Originally posted by Glyph PhoenixThe BASIC compiler is my personal project. That has nothing to do with here. My point is that I would take time away from my personal project to help the community. I'm sorry if you find my generosity offensive. |
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Sukasa Boomboom Error 349857348734534: The system experienced an error. Level: 57 Posts: 1907/1981 EXP: 1446921 For next: 39007 Since: 02-06-05 From: *Shrug* Since last post: 6 days Last activity: 1 day |
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| HH, I think you need to tone down your attacks at Fu, because without exeption, he has ALWAYS helped me with stuff he knew about, and even with one thing he didn't know already (this resulted in fixmap16.ips), FuSoYa went back through the ROM and found ONE bad byte and took the time to fix it. So sorry, but you're a little far-out with what you're saying. @mega-dog: I'm going to do the archive, and trust me, I do take time to do the ROM-hacking stuff, it's part of my personal life. And if the archive were to go down, well, I'd be able to fix that quickly because I'm saving up to buy a new webserver to store the archive on, to run from here at home (Hey, any donations would be greatly appreciated, PM if you'd like to help). |
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xZeaLitYx Cheep-cheep Level: 23  Posts: 183/199 EXP: 66932 For next: 791 Since: 04-13-04 Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 3 hours |
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| Excellent; an honest attempt at rectifying some problems have descended into the same loserdom that produced that "STOP FUCKING ASKING QUESTIONS AND READ THE SHIT YOUR OWN DAMN SELF" thread. | |||
The Kins Kodondo Level: 38  Posts: 574/595 EXP: 354733 For next: 15714 Since: 03-15-04 From: Melbourne, VIC, Australia Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 9 hours |
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Originally posted by xZeaLitYxThis is because talking does nothing. Actually doing something does. |
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Glyph Phoenix Level: 39 Posts: 621/745 EXP: 385876 For next: 18895 Since: 11-07-04 Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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But if we wanted to do things, we all wouldn't be hanging around Acmlm's, now, would we? We'd be doing things.Originally posted by BGNG Originally posted by BGNGOriginally posted by The KinsIf I chose to take this out of context, I could make any number of resultions about your intelligence and attitude based on the presence of one word in one of your posts. There's a solid example. You can't misrepresent "the", and even if you could, you come off as stupid trying to use this to defend against people taking in-context quotes of yours and pointing out why you're wrong. There you go. Solid. And really, though, I couldn't care less over what you tell the moderators. It's a sticky thread; they'll come across my post themselves. Originally posted by BGNG I misread that part. I thought you said: Originally posted by BGNG I'm writing a cross-platform BASIC compiler. Doing so would take time away from what I DO want to do. when you said: Originally posted by BGNG I'm writing a cross-platform BASIC compiler. Doing a hack would take time away from what I DO want to do. |
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Tamarin Calanis We exist. Earth exists. The universe exists. Do we really need to know why? Level: 59 Posts: 1710/1802 EXP: 1672751 For next: 377 Since: 07-12-04 From: The gas station on the corner... Since last post: 5 hours Last activity: 5 hours |
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| Mods have posted. Mods have seen GP's posts. Mods have seen your posts, BGNG. This particular moderator feels that you're just upset because not everyone agrees with your suggestion. In fact, you appear to have a very aggrivating "agree with me or go the fuck away" type of view. What's more, your speech and rantings are filled with contradictions (see the suggestion for a community hack and then saying that you're not suggesting a community hack for a perfect example). There's two VERY important things you've gotta do before anyone will listen to you. One is to make up your goddamn mind. Are you suggesting something or are you not. The second one is to be willing to take some criticism instead of bitching when someone doesn't see things your way. Now, I'd love to actually contribute to making my two suggestions a reality, but they are things that only you can do. Only you can make up your mind, and only you can start accepting criticism. |
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BGNG Snifit Level: 22 Posts: 271/276 EXP: 56579 For next: 1771 Since: 06-03-05 Since last post: 8 days Last activity: 3 hours |
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If this particular moderator has seen my posts, then he did a good job of ignoring them.Originally posted by BGNGWait, didn't I post that just a few replies ago? And hasn't some of the conversation since then been about that very concept? I suggested a potential solution. I said "Hey! Maybe we could do a community hack!" I never said "Hey! Let's do a community hack!" Those two aren't the same thing. What kind of a moderator misses something like that? Objective? Not likely. And I can't say that I'm pleased with your ignoring user flaming and proceeding to downtalk the guy who has been trying to keep the thread on-topic.You're the moderator. Why aren't you moderating? I suppose the proper moderative response to my insubordination is to delete my post, ban me or perhaps lock the thread? Go ahead and do that if you can't accept a little criticism. I've been in communities before where the authoritive icons break the rules just as much as those who they discipline. It's not an issue of failing to do their job; it's an issue of reflecting the responsibility and contributing to inapproperiateness themselves; even encouraging it. That's called corruption. This brings into question the real cause of the "Sad State" of this community that has been addressed multiple times in the past. Don't tread on thin ice, Tamarin Calanis, lest you show that the problem with this community extends all the way up to the administration. |
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Bit-Blade Pixel Artist Level: 34  Posts: 421/445 EXP: 229264 For next: 24387 Since: 03-16-04 Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 7 hours |
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| With every word you speak you make your idiocy more obvious than ever. Your attitude is completely at odds with your intentions. You're going to sass with a moderator because he says something you don't like? What are you, fucking retarded? Everyone has been trying to tell you to cool your jets. This is the internet. This isn't life or death. Furthermore... what use will you be if you cannot control your temperment? Your intentions may have been good but you probably won't do a good job at all at leading this. You can't even take constructive criticism for what it is, even on something as coldly impersonal as the fucking internet. (edited by Bit-Blade on 10-08-05 01:47 PM) |
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BGNG Snifit Level: 22 Posts: 272/276 EXP: 56579 For next: 1771 Since: 06-03-05 Since last post: 8 days Last activity: 3 hours |
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| Your remarks seem personally-oriented, even though they're on the internet. They seem filled with rage even though I cannot control my temperment. You seem to be sassing with me because I said something you don't like. Your intentions seem to be condemning at best. This seems to portray idiocy. Make observations. All of you. There is no boss in the situation. Such would void the concept of community. Do I have a problem where I can't come to terms with the possibility I might not be entirely correct? Does anyone else have such a problem? Make very careful considerations of how to respond to this. (edited by BGNG on 10-10-05 12:50 PM) (edited by BGNG on 10-10-05 01:03 PM) (edited by BGNG on 10-10-05 01:03 PM) (edited by BGNG on 10-10-05 01:10 PM) |
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Bit-Blade Pixel Artist Level: 34 Posts: 422/445 EXP: 229264 For next: 24387 Since: 03-16-04 Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 7 hours |
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| Rage? No, not really. I'm as cool as a cat. You mistake my intolerance for behavior such as yours. I've been watching this thread degrade for a while. I felt I should add my own two cents. I don't think it's personal, pe se. I just think you are behaving very childishly. Consider it a public service announcement o.- You're digging your own grave, kiddo. Only an idiot would kick an authorative figure in the balls for no better reason than because they said something you didn't like. Besides... what kind of lame com back is that? "Zomgs no YOU'RE an idiot filled with rage zomgs. Ima turn this guys words back on him because I'm so fucking CLEVER! Dear god, there has never been anyone as smart as me!" Allright, so that last bit took it a bit far XD. And for the record, THAT was a personal attack, not to be taken lightly (seriously). (edited by Bit-Blade on 10-08-05 02:29 PM) (edited by Bit-Blade on 10-08-05 02:40 PM) (edited by Bit-Blade on 10-08-05 02:48 PM) |
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