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Posted on 09-11-05 03:40 AM Link | Quote
Just thought it might be interesting to hear why people use emulators. I have a few reasons myself:
  • Loading up an emulator and playing every game with the same joypad is a hell of a lot more convenient than hooking up whatever console I want and using old worn-out controllers, and my monitor pwns my TV.
  • Emulators do NOT fail unless there's something wrong with your computer or the emu/ROM is corrupt. None of that wiggling cartridges and blowing in things to get them to run.
  • ROMs can't be stolen! And if they get destroyed, you need only search Google a bit for a replacement.
  • You don't need to scour the planet for obscure pieces of hardware that only 250 copies of exist. You have all the accessories and added features like save states, unlimited save files (rename them ), variable game speed from anywhere between stopped to as fast as your computer can handle, and netplay.
  • It's 100% customizable. You can change screen resolution, remap buttons, or even modify the game (or make your own) to suit your needs.
  • In game development, an emulator with a debugger that can load a ROM in one second, load a save state right at an area that needs testing, and tell you exactly what goes wrong when there's a problem sure beats a console that takes 30 seconds to load (you have to download the ROM to it, usually through the parallel port, or burn them to a CD), doesn't have any save feature, and just stops entirely when something bad happens.
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Posted on 09-11-05 03:48 AM Link | Quote
I emulate because it's the only way for me to play old school games that's almost imposible to find.
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Posted on 09-11-05 04:10 AM Link | Quote
I use to play/try games before I have money to buy the game (because I usually buy the game, unless it's not out in North America. Which happens often)
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Posted on 09-11-05 05:06 AM Link | Quote
- whatever game you want for free (don't lie, that's why most of you do it too)

- Fastforwarding. I don't know about you, but I can't stand to play some old NES/SNES games without a fastforward button any more.

- Infinite saves. No limit on the number of save slots a game can hold

- Can save games you normally couldn't.

- Monitors provide a superior picture to TVs. Much sharper... much crisper. TVs are butt ugly in comparison.

- Various graphics filters and other graphical tweaks to make the image appear better than it does on the real system.

- Upped samplerate on the SNES with runtime interpolation for better-than-real-thing audio quality. And I actually really like the pseudo-surround sound effects I put in Schpune much more than the as-is NES sound.

- Hacks, translations

- Emu development is fun.

- As HH mentioned.. the game always works. No fuddling around with dirty/old/bad connectors.
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Posted on 09-11-05 08:54 AM Link | Quote
Interesting topic

"Why do you emulate?"

- It's free.

- I rather search Google than searching all the game stores in town just to get my hands on a certain game.

- Cartridge games get corrupted easier. My SMA2 game is corrupted. At least for roms, they're either corrupted when you first download them or not.

- Hacks, how can I forget those.
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Posted on 09-11-05 08:58 AM Link | Quote
Because I can and nobody's gonna stop me from doing it.

Emulation's also a hell of a way to pass the time since there's still SO many good games out there I haven't even picked up... It's a hobby that can last a long time.
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Posted on 09-11-05 09:48 AM Link | Quote
Sience I missed out on the NES and Super NES days, its a great way for me to see what I never got to see! Its free, too!

I also like to relive my glory days of the GameBoy Color and Nintendo 64.
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Posted on 09-11-05 10:08 AM Link | Quote
I'm a big fan of emulation for one primary reason:

To make a piece of software that, in real time, will accurately mimic the behavior of a whole other system architecture, is simply a work of art in my opinion. I highly respect those who are capable of writing such emulators, and I place them at the level of Led Zeppelin or Yngwie Malmsteen - gods among men. The other benefits that people have stated are only gravy.

On a tangent, I even had someone tell me several years ago that emulation was "wrong" because "new technology is not designed to handle old shit". I never could ram it in his brain that what he said was the exact reason people created emulator software, so that it would handle "old shit". He got extremely mad about it all the time, until one day I showed him an Amiga emulator that let him see an old Moviesetter animation that he and I had worked on in the past. After that, he's never said a word about any emulation at all.


(edited by LocalH on 09-11-05 01:08 AM)
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Posted on 09-11-05 07:05 PM Link | Quote
To solidify my kickassery in games I used to be able to play, mostly ZSNES.
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Posted on 09-11-05 09:45 PM Link | Quote
Because I think it´s fun and don´t have the money to buy all of the games I emulate.

And some games are hard to get too but not on the net.
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Posted on 09-11-05 10:22 PM Link | Quote
well...

1. Where I live, and anywhere close is the worst place to buy old games($100 for FF2 on snes)..
2. Its free, and easier

3. Save states, and Fast Forward


and thats basically it.
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Posted on 09-12-05 08:57 AM Link | Quote
i used to emulate lots of games because i used to make games. i liked playing lots of other games because it'd give me a good idea of what i'd like about certain games.
now, i just sort of gave up on it, and i play games to.. play games.
usually, most of my emulation is now for netplay. i really love playing games with my friends, i certainly missed out on multiplayer games as a kid, and lots of old games are great playing with more than one person.
i do occastionally play games i missed out on(or just didn't finish). such as super mario world 2: yoshi's island. i've been playing that game recently a lot too(got to 3-7 or so until i came on here :p).
sometimes i play games that i loved as a kid. Rocket Knight Adventures is one. it's a great genesis game, i reccomend everyone checks it out.
also, the fast forward option is definitely one of my favorite parts of emulated games. i never really got into save states, though. i only use them in case i have to leave or was stuck on something.
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Posted on 09-12-05 11:52 AM Link | Quote
Oh... I forgot about save states.
Thats one of the big reasons I play.
Some games are annoying where you can only save in certain places. Some let you save anywhere, but when you start up again, you come from like the last dungeon you were in or something.

Save states eliminate all that crazy stuff. Save anywhere you want, start back at the same place. Easy as pie!
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Posted on 09-12-05 03:37 PM Link | Quote
Playing the Ancient Cave from Lufia II pretty sucks on an emulator.
On a real SNES it was more than a challenge, as it involved about 10-12 hours if you wanted actually to kill the Master Jelly (without getting killed yourself to get a cheap victory then ), and the most nasty enemies from the 80th floor on ...

I fortified 9-11 hours after I got through it and by three "Stardust" attacks from two Gold Dragons in a row (after being surprised, due to contact from the side ) made me forfeiting that time ...

Other than that, emulation is convenient, allows to play hacks and improved quality/sound - there is Netplay support so you can play online if your friends don't have time to play with you; but nothing can beat the original feeling when you have the original game.

When I'm putting in my Rudra no Hihou cartridge into the NTSC -> PAL adaptor and turn on my SNES, it is really more than satisfaction when the harps begin to play that wonderful melody and the Squaresoft logo fades in - and the huge colorful japanese title appears later ...
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Posted on 09-12-05 04:54 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Snika
Oh... I forgot about save states.
Thats one of the big reasons I play.
Some games are annoying where you can only save in certain places. Some let you save anywhere, but when you start up again, you come from like the last dungeon you were in or something.

Save states eliminate all that crazy stuff. Save anywhere you want, start back at the same place. Easy as pie!

And if you play SMW hacks, it's pretty much required.
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Posted on 09-12-05 07:45 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Dcahrakos
well...
1. Where I live, and anywhere close is the worst place to buy old games($100 for FF2 on snes)..


Here there are near places where i can buy them, but the price is another story...
Originally posted by Dcahrakos

2. Its free, and easier


Yep
Originally posted by Dcahrakos

3. Save states, and Fast Forward


And slow mo' too

Too bad there are no good emu's (fps talking) for PS2. Another good thing that emus add are pallete changes, and even better, high score support like UberNes
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eventually there will be a decent ps2 emulator...hopefully anyway, although you'd need a pretty decent pc to run games at a good speed to..

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Posted on 09-13-05 05:19 AM Link | Quote
I've pretty much given up on emulation for the newer consoles.
The better the technology on the system itself, the harder it is to try to get it to run on a computer. Most of the games worth getting for a PS2 emulator have computer versions that can be torrented or bought.
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Posted on 09-13-05 07:06 AM Link | Quote
Even if I had my TV and enough outlets to plug everything in, hooking up all my consoles would be a nightmare. You try finding a switcher that can handle, oh, five RF inputs and output A/V.
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Posted on 09-14-05 10:04 AM Link | Quote
- Free
- Don't need to go to sparse garage sales or discount media stores (incidently, there are none where I live)
- No need to worry about retarded corruption that is seemingly automatic in old games. Especially in the case of Donkey Kong Country, where my game did it 99% of the time after being turned off (it could survive, but it was unlikely). Not to mention that the 2-Player modes usually returned a blue screen stating that there was "unauthorized accessories", "foreign material" or something like that.
- ROM hacks
- Messing around with PAR codes without needing to buy one
- Not having to hook up an old system
- Reliving old games
- Save states

Originally posted by HyperHacker

And if you play SMW hacks, it's pretty much required.


Hell, just about any hack is that difficult

- Fast forward
- Slow down
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