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paraplayer Snifit Level: 22  Posts: 265/280 EXP: 57271 For next: 1079 Since: 06-06-05 Since last post: 44 days Last activity: 44 days |
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| ...paint a painting? what i mean is... can a computer be creative and paint a picture just like a human? think long and hard on this one. |
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Legion banning people for no reason sure is fun Level: 101  Posts: 4789/5657 EXP: 10399737 For next: 317938 Since: 03-15-04 From: The Crossroads is under attack! Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 5 days |
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| Not unless you program it to. Any other questions? |
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99  Posts: 4799/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Does this computer have a human brain in it? | |||
Arwon Zora Level: 35  Posts: 380/506 EXP: 278115 For next: 1821 Since: 03-15-04 From: Terra Australis Incognita Since last post: 5 hours Last activity: 10 min. |
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| What if it's the remains of a computer that collided with God? | |||
Scatterheart Panser Level: 29 Posts: 259/342 EXP: 143409 For next: 4476 Since: 06-06-04 From: Sydney, Australia Since last post: 17 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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| "Would you know what I'm gonna do before I do it?" "Yes" "What if I did something else?" "Then I wouldn't know"  FUTURAMA ROX!! It's kinda like this whole "AI" thing. Computers are only programed for certain purposes. I've seen these "Soccer Dogs", and everyone claims that they have AI, but they're only doing what they were programed to do. They'll never turn on us or anything.  IT'S BLOODY STUPID!!  |
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firemaker Level: 26  Posts: 134/247 EXP: 94178 For next: 8097 Since: 03-23-04 From: UK berkshire Since last post: 17 days Last activity: 11 days |
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| A computer has to be phisically programmed to do something. Even thhe most powerful computer in the world could not paint a picture. AI is a failed recreation of life. Could a computer compose a shmphony?? i think not. right from the word go computers have to be programmed. if you look at the way the first processors were made you will see that they were programmed, so a computer needs human intervention to do anything. | |||
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99 Posts: 4914/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Unless a high-level of artificial intelligence is created that could therefore make new computers (ie reproduction) with distinctive personality traits within their AI I don't quite think that computers will be too good the artist. | |||
neotransotaku Baby Mario 戻れたら、 誰も気が付く Level: 87 Posts: 3716/4016 EXP: 6220548 For next: 172226 Since: 03-15-04 From: Outside of Time/Space Since last post: 11 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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| I believe creativity stems from (1) randomness of events that occur (2) how each input influences the function it is entered into. If the subroutines in an AI are be non-deterimistic, then creativity of a computer is possible. However, if AIs are programmed in a deterministic fashion then well, there is no creativity because essentially we be programming a computer to be able to replicate the works of others... I guess, being able to program non-deterministic output into a computer is the key for AIs to be "creative" |
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NSNick Laidback Admin Level: 85  Posts: 3202/3875 EXP: 5895841 For next: 2699 Since: 03-15-04 From: North Side School: OSU Since last post: 9 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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| "Hey kids. I'm a computer." "Stop all the downloadin'!" |
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MathOnNapkins Math n' Hacks Level: 67  Posts: 2092/2189 EXP: 2495887 For next: 96985 Since: 03-18-04 From: Base Tourian Since last post: 1 hour Last activity: 32 min. |
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Originally posted by Arwon Deus in Machina? |
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99 Posts: 4917/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Originally posted by MathOnNapkinsOriginally posted by Arwon You just got pun'd! |
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Snika Boo Level: 44  Posts: 340/916 EXP: 600678 For next: 10607 Since: 07-21-04 From: Freezing Cold Alaska! Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 2 days |
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| I suppose you could program a machine to paint a picture, much like the zookeepers trained the elephants in the zoo. It could either be a random amount of brush strokes, or I guess you could program it to do certain brush strokes to create something like the Mona Lisa. Computers will never be able to process art the way humans do, though. Its a creative outlet for people, and computer could never match that. |
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Danielle Local Moderator  Level: 76  Posts: 1397/3359 EXP: 3958078 For next: 47982 Since: 09-15-04 From: RATE Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 3 hours |
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| It could, if it got the creative part from a human that programmed it. So really.. no it can't, unless it's given the talent. That's how it always is for computers, isn't it? | |||
Kario In Possession of a Stolen Shovel Level: 65 Posts: 1970/2082 EXP: 2321379 For next: 14249 Since: 03-15-04 From: Texas... Yeehaw! Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 17 hours |
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| No, it cant, they havent even perfected the arm to hold the brush yet. | |||
seanbabaganoosh Paragoomba Level: 13  Posts: 54/71 EXP: 8476 For next: 1791 Since: 04-15-05 From: Canada Since last post: 59 days Last activity: 59 days |
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| Like what Kario said. Also, paintings are made/expressed through the emotions of the artist. Comps. can't have emotions. It is way too complicated to program something like that. How do you program it to make a painting to convey a sad mood? Or how would you get it to add a sad complexion to the person in the picture? |
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Kitten Yiffer Purple wand Furry moderator Vivent l'exp����¯�¿�½������©rience de signalisation d'amusement, ou bien ! Level: 135 Posts: 10670/11162 EXP: 28824106 For next: 510899 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 4 min. |
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| Only if they have a biological brain, or have something that works similar to the brain. Creativity is a trait humans have, but machines lacks... for now. They're masters at logic, but fails whenever creativity is needed. A human brain and a computer works quite diffrent. I can see it possible if they use a brain somehow, thought you would need a device to connect between the computer and the brain.  |
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Vyper Bit Level: 26  Posts: 160/256 EXP: 100094 For next: 2181 Since: 03-15-04 From: Final Fantasy Fire Since last post: 8 days Last activity: 7 days |
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Originally posted by firemakerActually, a computer probably could be programmed to compose a symphony. I mean, think about it. Just supply it with every possible note along with examples of classical music and have the computer rearrange the notes to a style that sounds good. |
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Kefka Indefinitely Unbanned Level: 81 Posts: 3317/3392 EXP: 4826208 For next: 166641 Since: 03-15-04 From: Pomona, CALIFORNIA BABY! Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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| How would it know it would sound good? It would be ripping off of other music, and that is all. | |||
GeckoYamori Paratroopa Level: 18 Posts: 80/153 EXP: 25084 For next: 4813 Since: 05-10-05 Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 7 hours |
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| Computers can already compose music from scratch without any references, using randomized scripts guided by a few 'laws' from human music theory. | |||
Wopple Red Goomba Level: 8  Posts: 24/41 EXP: 2026 For next: 161 Since: 09-03-05 Since last post: 8 days Last activity: 8 days |
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Originally posted by Kefka Yeah, what the other guy said. Music theory is actualy qquite restrictive. It's not quite throwing random scales and chord progressions together, but it can get close. You could certainly program a computer that would make up random melodies based on the laws which would sound QUITE good, although consistancy would be a problem. |
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