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Posted on 07-26-05 12:13 AM Link | Quote
Hi there...

I wondered what's been up with zophars domain during the last months... I posted news several times and the queue just grew... but no news were displayed for ages...


So what's up there?! None of the twelve staff-members seems to be doing anything at all... or has the site been closed and left as is?!
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Posted on 07-26-05 12:41 AM Link | Quote
I think it's a combination of them being lazy as hell and them being hosted on Overclocked.
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Posted on 07-26-05 06:55 AM Link | Quote
I'd put more emphasis on them being lazy and just not wanting to update their site as of late. That's about how much I was getting. That and whatever other tempers flared.

Be a shame if it finally dropped out after all of these years though...


(edited by Priere on 07-25-05 09:55 PM)
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Posted on 07-26-05 08:17 AM Link | Quote
I hope it doesn't go down...Has anyone noticed that some of there files are going one by one?
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Posted on 07-26-05 08:33 AM Link | Quote
Those are probably broken links. :\

I think it's a general feeling of laziness but if it were to fall... Sad, sad day for emulation.
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Posted on 07-26-05 08:41 AM Link | Quote
A lot of links are broken because ZTnet switched servers and they're still recovering. On top of that, they're also in the middle of a site redesign.
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Posted on 07-26-05 08:42 AM Link | Quote
A redesign?

That's strange... I know they've had the current look for years but I always liked it. Proof that things don't always have to be snazzy.

Ah, ZTNet. How we miss you. :\
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Posted on 07-26-05 08:56 AM Link | Quote
Yeah...though apparently they're moving slower than ass. They've been pondering a site redesign for years, and on the forums they sometimes give off the impression that it will happen soon.

*shrug*
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Posted on 07-26-05 09:01 AM Link | Quote
Hence the 'lazy'.

I'd be suprised if they pulled off a site redesign with as much as they've been lacking updates. Gavin's really the only one I know of updating anything as of late.
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Posted on 07-26-05 01:13 PM Link | Quote
It could also be that we don't know who's actually working on it. For all we know, it's SwampGas and nobody else. *shrug*

I know Gavin was making a new layout, as were ZeldaDD and a few others and some point in time. All either didn't finish, were rejected, or just wasn't implemented for whatever reason.

Well, since the site itself is basically broken, it should be incentive enough to be updated. I'm almost tempted to ask Swamp if I can help, but my time allotted would prevent me from doing so. *shrug* Guess all we can do is wait...
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Posted on 07-26-05 02:00 PM Link | Quote
Hell, they were talking redesign when I was on the staff... that was probably four years ago! I like the current site, but anyone who's seen the internal workings knows what a mess it is, that's what they need to do, reorganize all their files, not make the layout confusing (Look at the ROM Utilies section... oh, and that's the ass-ugly color scheme they were planning when I was still on the staff).

By the way, anyone know where they keep the table files now? I don't feel like tracking down all this damn DTE when I know they have a table for the game there...


Edit: By the way, I have a bad feeling one day the site will just *poof* out of existance... No one there is actually interested in running it, apparently.


(edited by Dragonsbrethren on 07-26-05 05:05 AM)
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Posted on 07-26-05 04:22 PM Link | Quote
I downloaded editors few days ago and today the trial of Hex Workshop.
But I cannot believe that page could go down unnoticed - they surely need a lot of bandwith (I got a lot of PSFs from that page ), though they won't host too huge files, but going unnoticed down ... this is always the main address when it comes to emulation utilities and other stuff.

About the page design. Really nothing special like ever, but I liked that plain look. It might have given Zophar's a light underground touch (the page itself is fully legal, of course, no commercial ROMs - since ever I think), but if that page would have gone down ... d'oh.

If might be better to reorganize the staff, if they realized what is happening - if that page goes down, this is very bad for the emulation scene. Apart from the files also many docs and other things are on the server - and though there are also very skilled ROM hackers in here, nobody might find them - like FuSoYa's Lunar Magic, Lunar Address and others - not everyone knows his page is hosted on panicus since a longer time ...
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Posted on 07-28-05 01:37 AM Link | Quote
I guess an easier structure would be nice for zophars but they've got a lot of staff and they're all too lazy to do anything for the site? Just can't believe it...

It's really sad... many nice sites went down or are simply inactive lately... such as cherryroms, tototek, zophars, romhack.de (for the germans^^)... will this be the beginning of the end of romhacking? hopefully not
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Posted on 07-28-05 04:49 AM Link | Quote
I really hope zophar's doesn't go down, it's a really good site. I found a lot of good things there (heck, I think it's were I found the link to ACMLLM's.
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Posted on 07-28-05 08:23 PM Link | Quote
You guys might find this relevent

Posts like these have been popping up ever since the server change. Something is definatly happening, we just haven't seen it happen yet.
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Posted on 07-28-05 11:19 PM Link | Quote
All I got was: 'The entire system is changing very soon.'

Hey, if they go through with it, I can't complain, but I like my actions better than my words.
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Posted on 07-29-05 01:12 AM Link | Quote
Yes. I agree on this. The fact that there are hundets of news in the queue at zophars doesn't make me happier either...
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Posted on 07-30-05 03:03 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by stag019
I really hope zophar's doesn't go down, it's a really good site. I found a lot of good things there (heck, I think it's were I found the link to ACMLLM's.

Same here. Well, they linked me somewhere which linked me here.

So what do they mean by very soon... 2206?
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Posted on 07-30-05 04:11 PM Link | Quote
Heh, on it's ten years annivesary next year. Have the layout ever got changed once in it's nine years long history?

I can see why they want to redo it but...
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Posted on 08-06-05 12:24 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by stag019
I really hope zophar's doesn't go down, it's a really good site. I found a lot of good things there (heck, I think it's were I found the link to ACMLLM's.


Zophar has been around longer than I've known about emulation (1999). If I had to guess, it helped found emulation as we know it today. Had it not been for this book I still woun't know about this site.

It talks about Lunar Magic which has this site on the links page. Funny thing is that the link it gives for LM in the book is wrong thanks to the ZD change.
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