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Posted on 07-17-05 04:48 AM Link | Quote
MACHINE_CHECK_EXCEPTION
***STOP: 0x0000009C (0x00000004,0x805F3F0F0,0xB2000000,0x00070F0F)

Every time I attempt to play a Direct 3D game, the game locks up and this pops up. It's extremely annoying and I would like some general ideas of trouble shooting the problem.
I've read that it's generally hard to determine the cause of a STOP error.

System info:
Window XP Professional SP1
AMD Athlon 64, 2000 MHz (10 x 200) 3000+
MSI K8T Neo-FSR(MS-6702)
512 mb DDR400
nVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 PCI (This card is the only part in my system older than 9 months and is my main suspect, its around 2 1/2 years old possibly more)
HITACHI 80 GIG HDD SATA 7200 RPM
HP 300n DVD/CD combo drive

Ive tried installing new and older drivers and the problem never seems to be fixed. Whenever I play a game the processor temp(more accurately the heatsink) rises a few degrees but I think thats to be expected.

Any help would be appreciated.


(edited by mrmenz on 07-16-05 07:49 PM)
(edited by mrmenz on 07-16-05 07:50 PM)
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Posted on 07-17-05 01:14 PM Link | Quote
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=329284

By the sound of that, you're blowing up your computer sky-high.


A machine check exception occurs when Windows XP and your hardware platform cannot recover from a hardware error so that the system can continue to run successfully and reliably. More specific diagnosis of machine check exceptions is difficult, and there is no general solution. Contact your hardware manufacturer or a computer hardware technician for help with troubleshooting this issue.

Machine check exceptions are frequently caused by one of the following conditions:



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Posted on 07-17-05 03:38 PM Link | Quote
Hiryuu's already given you the solution to this, but let me explain something for future reference.

Stop errors are really easy to decipher.

The first number you get in a Stop error -- ALWAYS punch it into Google, and you'll get the Microsoft website telling you what the problem is.

The rest of the numbers -- the ones in the brackets -- are the parameters under which the error occurred, and for the most part, those can be ignored. You just want the first number

As far as problems go, I LOVE stop errors. They're one of the few things my clients (I work on a help desk) present with that I am able to give them a definitive answer on immediately Thanks Google! Thanks, Microsoft!
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Posted on 07-17-05 07:30 PM Link | Quote
This might just indicate that your video card can't handle the game. Direct3D is pretty low-level, and XP seems to do a poor job of ensuring you don't run out of video memory when a whole lot of it is allocated at once.
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Posted on 07-18-05 02:13 AM Link | Quote
Well its been just recently that Ive had any problem playing the games I normally do, actually this is probably the first real problem ive had on this system.

Thanks for the advice.

As for the MS article:
1.Im not overclocking and my overclocking options are kinda of limited as it is.
2.Over stressed power may be a possibility, my house is older and we've had problems when running many high power devices at the same time.
3. I will check into the overheating part, but as far to my knowledge all of my 4 case fans are working. My LCD thermal monitor hasn't been displaying anything out of the normal, as well as temperture monitoring soft ware I use.

I know that im going to replace the video card as soon as possible, maybe that will help or entirely solve the problem. Ive been wanting to get rid of the piece of crap for awhile anyway.

EDIT: Fans are working fine, My machine runs a bit hot but bothing to lose any sleep over.


(edited by mrmenz on 07-17-05 07:49 PM)
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Posted on 07-19-05 04:50 AM Link | Quote
It probably is a power issue, then. 3D games really work the CPU and video card, so they'll draw more power. If your power supply (or house ) can't supply it, things usually don't turn out well. Electronics can act pretty damn strange when they don't have enough power to them.
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Posted on 07-20-05 01:56 AM Link | Quote
How old is your videocard? Make sure the fan on it isnt dead or clogged with dust. Then make sure the socket it's plugged into is free of dust. If problems persist then try setting the hardware acceleration down. And if your card has something about disabling 'fast writes' then disable that. If the problem still comes after all that, try installing the latest drivers. And last check your power supply, it could be crapping out. I remember when my powersupply was crapping out my computer would randomly reboot and shut off.
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Posted on 07-20-05 02:24 AM Link | Quote
I think im going to have to settle with the stressed power conclusion, my house is 100+ years old and as far to my knowledge so is our wiring. At any one time there is 2 a/c's running in the house along with appliances. This only started about a month ago with less frequency. Sometimes lights will flicker , due to lack of power I guess.

My video card is about 2 1/2 years old, it will be replaced even if it isn't the cause of the problem

I recently flashed my BIOS and now the system is running a few degrees celsius cooler.(31-35 when idle compared to 40 when idle before). Although I still get a STOP error when playing games.

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Posted on 07-21-05 06:59 AM Link | Quote
Well, 'about a month ago' conincides with some major heat waves here. I imagine you had the fans and AC running a lot harder around then, so yeah, that's something to look at. You might get away with a battery backup system or a better surge protector.
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Posted on 07-21-05 02:16 PM Link | Quote
I thought that shutting off all appliances, and trying a game might confirm that this is the problem. After doing the above im still struck with th same STOP error.

After looking around at many forums, im starting to think this is a hardware problem with my Video card,PSU, or CPU.

Im going to borrow a friends video card tomorrow and try his to see if I get the same problem.
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