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Alaric Paragoomba Level: 15 Posts: 71/72 EXP: 14932 For next: 1452 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 108 days Last activity: 5 hours |
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| Reading through a bit of 1.A2's code and adding Custom User schemes got me to wondering... Where are the following two items on the priority list? 1) Fixing the horrid HTML (<tr><td></td><tr>) 2) Making AB use $_GET[foo] instead of $foo WHERE foo LIKE *; |
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DarkSlaya POOOOOOOOOOOORN! Level: 88 Posts: 3822/4249 EXP: 6409254 For next: 241410 Since: 05-16-04 From: Montreal, Quebec, Canada Since last post: 8 hours Last activity: 5 hours |
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| 1. Version 2.0 (if it ever get's released) should fix it. 2. Same as above (probably). |
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Narf Hi Tuvai! (reregistering while banned) Level: 16  Posts: 72/100 EXP: 17634 For next: 2622 Since: 12-26-04 Since last post: 22 hours Last activity: 14 hours |
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| The superglobal matter is understandable. Though whining about HTML: get over it. Not everyone likes having to write < < < < < instead of < Myself included because I work with huge files instead of a ton of different files. Not to forget, it's a distributed forum package distributeed as a whole. Theoretically, you're not even supposed to mess around with the source code. And if you do, it's your own risk. I got my own distributed forum package. I made it extra easy to install/manage and it's got just the ammount of features and functions that you don't even need to go into FTP anymore to make changes to it. For all those "omg look at me im a 1337 PHP progremmer!11" fanatics that want to make changes to it, that's not for my concern. |
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Alaric Paragoomba Level: 15 Posts: 72/72 EXP: 14932 For next: 1452 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 108 days Last activity: 5 hours |
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| Well if you'd notice, narf, that i intentionally left the / off the last tr, you'll see where i'm going with this -- I have absolutely no complaint about the tags being on one line, it's the fact that TR is never closed that bothers me. Anyway, @DarkSlaya, Thanks  |
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Narf Hi Tuvai! (reregistering while banned) Level: 16 Posts: 73/100 EXP: 17634 For next: 2622 Since: 12-26-04 Since last post: 22 hours Last activity: 14 hours |
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Originally posted by AlaricWith that, I agree. The board's HTML code is a horrid mess, whether it's put on one line or not.  |
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Kasumi-Astra Administrator Level: 62  Posts: 1652/1867 EXP: 1971846 For next: 12840 Since: 03-15-04 From: Reading, UK Uni: Sheffield, UK Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 12 hours |
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| Acmlm has already defended the non-w3c standard HTML, and has already demonstarted what a huge difference it has on file sizes. If you mean that the source of the HTML comes out all jumbled when you view the HTML source, then that's a huge task to throw at us. Not only will it increase the file sizes, but we will have to add lots of unneccessary code that just makes the board html look pretty when it already works for all the major browsers. It would be nice to have W3C standard HTML and pretty indenting, but when all the major broswers display the board without a hitch it is not a high priority for the near future. However, we've always said we wanted to give the board a complete overhaul in terms of the code for 2.0. It'll definately be on the agenda once we've finished adding various bits and pieces in the next few board upgrades. |
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Narf Hi Tuvai! (reregistering while banned) Level: 16 Posts: 74/100 EXP: 17634 For next: 2622 Since: 12-26-04 Since last post: 22 hours Last activity: 14 hours |
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| So your files become a bit bigger... So what? I've always said the same before I started working with valid HTML, and guess what! My files indeed got a lot bigger (sometimes twice as big) but they became a lot easier to work with, and it looked easier on my eyes for some reason. Especially with a common table structure: < < < < < That looks a hell of a lot better than < in a huge file, let alone when it's parsed through PHP so you'll escape quotation marks with a backslash in a lot of cases. So yeah, 'it works' in most major browsers (and no offense, but who are YOU to define what browsers are 'major'?, but there are hundreds of browsers out there. Okay, the majority of people use Internet Explorer and Mozilla, but there's more beyond the horizon than just those. Ever tried looking at Acmlm's board in a very strict text based browser? Not only AcmlmBoard is written in extremely messy HTML, but it lacks a lot of stuff that's definately important, to name a few: alt attibutes for the < (edited by Narf on 07-21-05 03:25 PM) |
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Cymoro PATRICK DUFFY WILL LASER YOUR SOUL   Level: 67  Posts: 1898/2216 EXP: 2549743 For next: 43129 Since: 03-15-04 From: Cymoro Gaming Since last post: 6 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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| She is one of the head coders of the board, along with ||bass. She has to test them in several browsers, and get input from other users who use different browsers as well. It works fine in Konqurer, Opera, Mozilla/Firefox, IE, and even Lynx, a text based browser (I have browsed through the board using it a few times myself). It all works just fine. | |||
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Kasumi-Astra Administrator Level: 62 Posts: 1654/1867 EXP: 1971846 For next: 12840 Since: 03-15-04 From: Reading, UK Uni: Sheffield, UK Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 12 hours |
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Thanks, Cymoro  Yeah, the board's been written in messy HTML and we all have to work with it. The code could be better and it would be nicer to work with something prettier but at the moment we don't have our minds on totally reconfiguring the board for this. 99% of people on this board use mainstream browsers, so there has never been any reason to plough through the entire board system. Also, the Acmlmboard is a project that's always been homegrown for the purpose of one community. Acmlm started the project when he was 17 and the board has been tinkered with ever since. Of course it's going to be ropey compared to PHPBB and the like. It's going to be an important step when 2.0 becomes a blip on the horizon. It's going to be a realy coming-of age for the board, so it's important that she's given an overhaul. Complete re-writing of the board was a goal in the original specification two years ago, and I can imagine something along the same lines when we finally come around to starting development on 2.0. So, in short, don't expect something in the near future, but don't go thinking it's not important |
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