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Kitten Yiffer Purple wand Furry moderator Vivent l'exp����¯�¿�½������©rience de signalisation d'amusement, ou bien ! Level: 135 Posts: 10419/11162 EXP: 28824106 For next: 510899 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 4 min. |
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| I read this on Slashdot. I'm very glad about that, as I plan to devolop software in the future. I just don't want to pay licensing fees to severeal companies, becuse someone patented the wheel. |
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FreeDOS Lava Lotus Wannabe-Mod :< Level: 59 Posts: 1520/1657 EXP: 1648646 For next: 24482 Since: 03-15-04 From: Seattle Since last post: 6 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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| Hey! No posting without written permission from the patent-holder of forum posting! | |||
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Kasumi-Astra Administrator Level: 62  Posts: 1634/1867 EXP: 1971846 For next: 12840 Since: 03-15-04 From: Reading, UK Uni: Sheffield, UK Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 12 hours |
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| Thank god. Europe would've become a computing wasteland had Software Patents passed a vote. There was absolutely no gain to be made other than a few greedy people with expensive lawyers. | |||
BGNG Snifit Level: 22  Posts: 124/276 EXP: 56579 For next: 1771 Since: 06-03-05 Since last post: 8 days Last activity: 3 hours |
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| In order to fully guard against ANY legal encumberences, the Xiph.org Foundation is developing the Ogg Vorbis and Theora media formats, which are industry-competible specifications for audio and video compression, respectively. It won't be too much longer before we can say bye-bye to Windows Media, REALMedia and MPEG. (edited by BGNG on 07-06-05 06:40 PM) |
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Kaioshin Blue Octorok Level: 10  Posts: 37/45 EXP: 3473 For next: 941 Since: 06-23-05 From: Slovenia Since last post: 94 days Last activity: 57 days |
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| Thank goodness! As I'm going to programming school, I was afraid of the outcome of this, while most of my schoolmates were completely ignorant... Sigh... |
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Kasumi-Astra Administrator Level: 62 Posts: 1637/1867 EXP: 1971846 For next: 12840 Since: 03-15-04 From: Reading, UK Uni: Sheffield, UK Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 12 hours |
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| OGG will not replace MP3 for a VERY long time. It doesn't offer anything new over MP3 from the public's point of view, and MP3 is the only format supported by almost every portable digital music player. None of the mainstream products in the UK support OGG in hardware, this makes it an extremely difficult task to make any inroads to the market. | |||
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Kitten Yiffer Purple wand Furry moderator Vivent l'exp����¯�¿�½������©rience de signalisation d'amusement, ou bien ! Level: 135 Posts: 10420/11162 EXP: 28824106 For next: 510899 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 4 min. |
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OGG still whoops MP3's ass. Whenever i'm able to, I download the OGG version of music and it's the format I choose whenever I rip something. It's also the format I use for programs, just to avoid license fees.  And I was the only one in class who understand the outcome of software patents and knew the effects of them. Sad how few people know/care about them.  Even if FreeDOS is joking, he does show us a point. God knows which patents this board would break in EU if software patents become an reality... (not saying that this board would be in trouble, EU laws don't apply to US  )(edited by Kitten Yiffer on 07-06-05 06:26 PM) |
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neotransotaku Baby Mario 戻れたら、 誰も気が付く Level: 87 Posts: 3458/4016 EXP: 6220548 For next: 172226 Since: 03-15-04 From: Outside of Time/Space Since last post: 11 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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Originally posted by Kaioshinif you are an independent programmer trying to make money or running a company, you had a lot riding on this. otherwise, it doesn't apply to a majority of programmers out there. i'm not sure what to think of this ruling, since I'll probably won't be dealing with such issues. However, if this were to pass...wouldn't this apply to any patent filed after this point? otherwise, if you can sue "back in time" that is like being convicted before you've even done the crime... |
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Legion banning people for no reason sure is fun Level: 101  Posts: 4587/5657 EXP: 10399737 For next: 317938 Since: 03-15-04 From: The Crossroads is under attack! Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 5 days |
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| *boots to Hardware/Software* The description of the forum is misleading. It's not just for help, it's for all thing software and hardware related. |
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HyperLamer <||bass> and this was the soloution i thought of that was guarinteed to piss off the greatest amount of people Sesshomaru Tamaranian Level: 118 Posts: 5556/8210 EXP: 18171887 For next: 211027 Since: 03-15-04 From: Canada, w00t! LOL FAD Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| YAY! I guess my sig banner worked. Also I am 104% in favour of anything that gets rid of WMV once and for all. Worst. format. ever. |
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neotransotaku Baby Mario 戻れたら、 誰も気が付く Level: 87 Posts: 3469/4016 EXP: 6220548 For next: 172226 Since: 03-15-04 From: Outside of Time/Space Since last post: 11 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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Originally posted by HyperHackerdidn't divx initially come from WMV? or did I read that wrong somewhere  |
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FreeDOS Lava Lotus Wannabe-Mod :< Level: 59 Posts: 1522/1657 EXP: 1648646 For next: 24482 Since: 03-15-04 From: Seattle Since last post: 6 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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| Nope, DivX is original. And XviD is a free deritive branched off of when DivX was free. Besides, WMV quality is reasonable, but it's proprietary so that sucks. Much unlike WMA, where it sucks all-round. |
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neotransotaku Baby Mario 戻れたら、 誰も気が付く Level: 87 Posts: 3477/4016 EXP: 6220548 For next: 172226 Since: 03-15-04 From: Outside of Time/Space Since last post: 11 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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| here is the line at wiki: DivX ;-) 3.11 Alpha and earlier versions generally refer to a hacked version of the Microsoft MPEG-4 Version 2 video codec, extracted around 1999 by French hacker Jerome Rota (also known as Gej). so, Microsoft MPEG-4 Version 2 wasn't a precursor to WMV? anyways, patents is out of the question but not all licenses are free... so, just as long as stuff isn't monopolized things are still good, correct? (edited by neotransotaku on 07-07-05 02:14 AM) |
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99  Posts: 4490/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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This move was a request by another staffer.  Don't hold me responsible. |
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Legion banning people for no reason sure is fun Level: 101 Posts: 4626/5657 EXP: 10399737 For next: 317938 Since: 03-15-04 From: The Crossroads is under attack! Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 5 days |
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| That's fine, it works here too. But also gives me another something to bring up in the staff forum, in which I'll do so now. | |||
macks Level: 45 Posts: 736/900 EXP: 659955 For next: 209 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 22 hours |
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Originally posted by HyperHackerGood quality and small file size. Yeah, a real fucking disgrace to the internet man. And I'm also happy that EU said no to software patents. Doesn't help anyone but the people who already have loads of money and want more. There are countless of examples of big companies getting patents for stuff that have been around for ages, and that they I no way invented. |
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Kasumi-Astra Administrator Level: 62 Posts: 1644/1867 EXP: 1971846 For next: 12840 Since: 03-15-04 From: Reading, UK Uni: Sheffield, UK Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 12 hours |
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| Div-X is easily one of the most loved compression formats, but easily the most clever is ATRAC. Check it out. |
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