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paraplayer Snifit Level: 22 Posts: 189/280 EXP: 57271 For next: 1079 Since: 06-06-05 Since last post: 44 days Last activity: 44 days |
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Does a virus qualify as a living thing? it displays all 7 signs of life but... its a computer program. | |||
Legion banning people for no reason sure is fun Level: 101 Posts: 4491/5657 EXP: 10399737 For next: 317938 Since: 03-15-04 From: The Crossroads is under attack! Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 5 days |
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It's not comprised of cells, so no. | |||
alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99 Posts: 4343/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Oooooooooooh, tough question. I'm going with the "unique" life side of it. Viruses should be given a seperate category. |
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paraplayer Snifit Level: 22 Posts: 191/280 EXP: 57271 For next: 1079 Since: 06-06-05 Since last post: 44 days Last activity: 44 days |
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What are real viruses classified as? | |||
Legion banning people for no reason sure is fun Level: 101 Posts: 4493/5657 EXP: 10399737 For next: 317938 Since: 03-15-04 From: The Crossroads is under attack! Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 5 days |
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That question has been one of the most debated questions in all biology. Some say they're alive, others say they're not, and the rest say it's a little bit of both. |
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paraplayer Snifit Level: 22 Posts: 195/280 EXP: 57271 For next: 1079 Since: 06-06-05 Since last post: 44 days Last activity: 44 days |
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your all just angry because viruses can multiply. Well they're organic. They're not robots. They must be alive! Just very basic. |
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Cruel Justice XD Level: 55 Posts: 882/1384 EXP: 1253266 For next: 60923 Since: 03-20-04 From: Darkwoods Penetentiary Since last post: 11 hours Last activity: 7 hours |
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After reading up on the infection I have, I do indeed believe that viruses are "living" things. They aren't comprised of cells but can cause the body to make tumors. Kaposi's Sarcoma can make several cancerous ulcers in lymph systems. | |||
The Wrong 'Un Red Paragoomba Level: 14 Posts: 58/64 EXP: 12415 For next: 656 Since: 03-24-04 Since last post: 116 days Last activity: 79 days |
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What on earth are the 7 signs of life???? |
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Legion banning people for no reason sure is fun Level: 101 Posts: 4495/5657 EXP: 10399737 For next: 317938 Since: 03-15-04 From: The Crossroads is under attack! Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 5 days |
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Originally posted by The Wrong 'Un I was wondering myself. |
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Dei* Nipper Plant Level: 26 Posts: 207/412 EXP: 97995 For next: 4280 Since: 06-18-05 From: USA, Florida Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 1 day |
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I don't think viruses are alive, not fully anyway. Hmm...That IS a tough question. | |||
Kaioshin Blue Octorok Level: 10 Posts: 24/45 EXP: 3473 For next: 941 Since: 06-23-05 From: Slovenia Since last post: 94 days Last activity: 57 days |
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About the carbon-based ones, here's a wikipedia article about them with this topic mentioned. I'll quote it.Viruses: non-living or alive? However, one should note that no program can be considered alive. (As is the case with computer viruses. Edit: Oh, and here is another interesting article about Life itself (in a biological sense) which might answer what the criteria for a thing being alive are supposed to be. (edited by Kaioshin on 06-30-05 09:58 AM) |
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HyperLamer <||bass> and this was the soloution i thought of that was guarinteed to piss off the greatest amount of people Sesshomaru Tamaranian Level: 118 Posts: 5395/8210 EXP: 18171887 For next: 211027 Since: 03-15-04 From: Canada, w00t! LOL FAD Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Computer programs don't require food. | |||
Dei* Nipper Plant Level: 26 Posts: 231/412 EXP: 97995 For next: 4280 Since: 06-18-05 From: USA, Florida Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 1 day |
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Originally posted by HyperHacker No because hackers dont put stomachs in. |
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Maldrog Newcomer Level: 4 Posts: 7/8 EXP: 254 For next: 25 Since: 06-29-05 From: augusta kansas Since last post: 89 days Last activity: 89 days |
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Yupp computer viruses are just memory on a computer and nothing more... just 1s and 0s. | |||
Legault Bot Level: 24 Posts: 183/269 EXP: 78075 For next: 50 Since: 12-24-04 From: Schools out...YES!!! Summer vacation. Since last post: 13 days Last activity: 4 days |
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in a way some computer viruses require food. Like the worm virus. It can only stay alive as long as the program that it was sent after is still on the computer. Like in the book Digital Fortress. Back on subject though. I see viruses as living because they eat cells and stuff like that. |
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HyperLamer <||bass> and this was the soloution i thought of that was guarinteed to piss off the greatest amount of people Sesshomaru Tamaranian Level: 118 Posts: 5425/8210 EXP: 18171887 For next: 211027 Since: 03-15-04 From: Canada, w00t! LOL FAD Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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It wouldn't 'die' if its target vanished though. It would just sit there idle until another one appears. And corrupting a file isn't really the same as eating. Also 99% of worms that corrupt files just pick random ones, not one specific thing. |
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Dei* Nipper Plant Level: 26 Posts: 246/412 EXP: 97995 For next: 4280 Since: 06-18-05 From: USA, Florida Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 1 day |
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Well, so they eat whatever they want...obeseity worms? | |||
Legion banning people for no reason sure is fun Level: 101 Posts: 4511/5657 EXP: 10399737 For next: 317938 Since: 03-15-04 From: The Crossroads is under attack! Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 5 days |
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Originally posted by Legault No they don't. |
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neotransotaku Baby Mario 戻れたら、 誰も気が付く Level: 87 Posts: 3438/4016 EXP: 6220548 For next: 172226 Since: 03-15-04 From: Outside of Time/Space Since last post: 11 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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Originally posted by LegionOriginally posted by Legault viruses don't eat cells, they just simply take the cell over by hijacking the equipment that is there. to me, the defining point of a species to being alive is the ability to reproduce on their own. As far as I know, any species in the animal tree has the ability to reproduce on their own without the aid of another organism to do it for them. viruses are unable to do that because they are nothing more than protiens. |
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Vulkar Red Paragoomba Level: 12 Posts: 25/61 EXP: 6073 For next: 1848 Since: 05-24-05 Since last post: 53 days Last activity: 10 hours |
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Okay, this makes no sense to me, so I'll reply with as much sense as possible. Biological viruses should not be considered alive in my opinion. They are like germs, only more effective, and more damaging. Now, computer viruses(worms aren't a virus you should know.) are also not alive. |
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