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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99  Posts: 101/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| We all know what happened here... Am I the only one who is glad that he's getting in big trouble? Personally, I don't like the league fining the Canucks. |
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Colleen Administrator Level: 136 Posts: 104/11302 EXP: 29369328 For next: 727587 Since: 03-15-04 From: LaSalle, Quebec, Canada Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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| He's paying the price. He screwed up, he snapped... I don't care what you call it, it's an embarassment to the league and they had to act that way. The punishment is fair, but if the Canucks get dumped in Round 1 I wouldn't be surprised to see 5-10 games added to the suspension. The $250,000 fine to the Canucks is insane though. $50,000 I could see, but that's just asinine. |
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neotransotaku Baby Mario 戻れたら、 誰も気が付く Level: 87 Posts: 59/4016 EXP: 6220548 For next: 172226 Since: 03-15-04 From: Outside of Time/Space Since last post: 11 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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| hmm...in some ways, at least it was in CND... oh yeah, the league did warn vancouver about such an action so maybe that is why was high? in addition, i think the league also wanted to make a point that teams share the responsibility of such a thing--i recall the league warning vancouver about such a reaction... i believe the punishment is good enough...if the vancouver goes 4 and out, i have a feeling bertuzzi's reinstatement is going to come in a little late... but anyways, i wonder if police will really press charges...the vancouver police did that to marty mcsorely...but he was with boston, not vancouver so i dunno. |
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Lenophis Super Koopa Level: 44  Posts: 6/830 EXP: 584360 For next: 26925 Since: 03-15-04 From: Duluth, MN Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 3 hours |
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| Considering what Bertuzzi did, I'm not sad at all. The Canucks got a $250K fine? Sheesh........ Well, there were reports that the coach heard something like this might happen and did nothing to prevent it. I'm not sure about how much truth there is to it though... | |||
drjayphd Beamos What's that spell? pimp! Level: 56  Posts: 7/1477 EXP: 1387410 For next: 10766 Since: 03-15-04 From: CT Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| The fine is shite. Unless there's something we don't know about and the team was actually involved in it, you don't fine them. Bertuzzi, though, got precisely what he deserved. I wouldn't be surprised if the league held him out as long as Moore would be out, but no longer than a year. It seemed like something that he intended to do, but not hurt him THIS badly. |
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Toxic in a sublime state of mind Level: 75  Posts: 97/2857 EXP: 3732709 For next: 94195 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 3 days Last activity: 8 hours |
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| Revenge is ok in some scenarios...bu he went over the line | |||
Izlude Octoballoon Level: 22  Posts: 18/171 EXP: 54655 For next: 3695 Since: 03-15-04 From: Canada Since last post: 421 days Last activity: 14 days |
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| Yeah, he went way over the line. He most likely didn't intend to hurt Moore that badly though. I don't think so anyway.. He got what he deserved. Serves him right, and I'm happy he's out. |
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kinhad Keese Level: 20 Posts: 18/131 EXP: 36644 For next: 5795 Since: 03-15-04 From: Richmond, BC, Canada Since last post: 157 days Last activity: 157 days |
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| i find the fine towards the canucks retarded, but bertuzzi got what he deserved. in some ways i'm glad he's out, he doesn't play his best when he needs to, he is usually just seen cruising the ice. | |||
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Colleen Administrator Level: 136 Posts: 121/11302 EXP: 29369328 For next: 727587 Since: 03-15-04 From: LaSalle, Quebec, Canada Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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| $250,000 AMERICAN last I checked. The NHL doesn't give out fines in Canadian dollars - the teams/players make and use American dollars, so that's what they use for fines. | |||
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Izlude Octoballoon Level: 22 Posts: 27/171 EXP: 54655 For next: 3695 Since: 03-15-04 From: Canada Since last post: 421 days Last activity: 14 days |
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I thought it was Canadian, since the Canucks are a Canadian team and all..  How much is that in Canadian dollars?And yes, the fine is kind of stupid. But oh well. |
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Toxic in a sublime state of mind Level: 75 Posts: 104/2857 EXP: 3732709 For next: 94195 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 3 days Last activity: 8 hours |
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| They should (obviously) only penalize Bertuzzi, I mean, wtf could the organization do? Read his mind and stop him? | |||
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neotransotaku Baby Mario 戻れたら、 誰も気が付く Level: 87 Posts: 90/4016 EXP: 6220548 For next: 172226 Since: 03-15-04 From: Outside of Time/Space Since last post: 11 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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Originally posted by Colleen $250,000 AMERICAN last I checked. The NHL doesn't give out fines in Canadian dollars - the teams/players make and use American dollars, so that's what they use for fines. hmm...then i gues ESPN did a typo because that was where i got the $250,000 CND from... if it was $250,000 CND, then they wouldn't have paid so much, only about $187,500 USD |
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Monarx J Red Paragoomba Level: 13  Posts: 4/54 EXP: 9698 For next: 569 Since: 03-15-04 From: Levittown, PA, USA Since last post: 8 hours Last activity: 3 hours |
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| Give him the chair. No, no. I think he should have been suspended until the 2005 Stanley Cup Finals are over and fined however much Moore's contract is worth from that incident until then. |
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Toxic in a sublime state of mind Level: 75 Posts: 130/2857 EXP: 3732709 For next: 94195 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 3 days Last activity: 8 hours |
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| I think that as long as Moore's out, Bertuzzi should be. | |||
Angel Hardhat Beetle Level: 37  Posts: 7/573 EXP: 335160 For next: 3093 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 21 days Last activity: 11 hours |
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| Sue to the player not the team. The problem though was other players have given a sucker punch but the fact that buddy fell and everyone jumped on him severed the injurys the NHL board is blind to see this. People just dont think, it was just Bertuzzis luck what happened because ive seen it done even in the QHL. (edited by Angel on 03-17-04 12:07 PM) |
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Colleen Administrator Level: 136 Posts: 286/11302 EXP: 29369328 For next: 727587 Since: 03-15-04 From: LaSalle, Quebec, Canada Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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Monarx, if there's a lockout then that punishment would make no sense.  There's not going to be any suing. The NHL itself, no matter how sympathetic they are to Moore, would not want to get into a legal battle. |
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Sku Goomba Level: 9 Posts: 2/23 EXP: 2688 For next: 474 Since: 03-18-04 From: 20 feet left of the middle of nowhere. Since last post: 512 days Last activity: 339 days |
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| I think that while what he did was a little brutal, that the punishments that you guys are talking about are way too much, sure he did hit him from behind, but they had been setting up for a fight throughout the whole game, you cant base your opinion on the hit by just the little clip that keeps being shown on the news. And while I agree that he should be suspended and fined, i also dont think that he should have been suspended for as long as they have already, and may go longer. Hockey is a brutal game and things like this happen all the time, Gary Bettman is probably going to such extremes with this case to set an example for the future. | |||
Seph2k4 Bob-Omb Level: 39 Posts: 6/619 EXP: 376086 For next: 28685 Since: 03-16-04 Since last post: 6 days Last activity: 6 days |
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Originally posted by Toxic Word. Especially seeing how Moore's hit on teammate Naslund was an accient. Bertuzzi is better known as Dirtuzzi now. |
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FallenWarrior32 Red Koopa Level: 20  Posts: 4/133 EXP: 36667 For next: 5772 Since: 04-10-04 From: ME Since last post: 555 days Last activity: 339 days |
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| Didn't the NHL talk about making the refs more strict. That'll mean less fights. Then the ratings for hockey games will decline greatly. Then I'll stop watching them. Ouch, that's bad. Bertuzzi got hit to hard I think. This isn't the first time a player lost his mind. I thought that's what hockey is about anyway. |
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