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Dude Man Koopa Level: 18 Posts: 44/116 EXP: 29288 For next: 609 Since: 05-02-04 From: Wareham Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 7 hours |
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| Scientists have proved many things over the years. One of those is that if you have the money and the connections, you can make ludacris theories like "being fat is a disease" I can't bring myself to believe in such crap. An eating disorder, bad eating habits, and food addictions related to things like depression are things I can believe because when you think about it, they make sense. But to say that it's a medical disease is an insult to man-kind's intelligense. Any body else have thoughts on this? |
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Tarale I'm not under the alfluence of incohol like some thinkle peop I am. It's just the drunker I sit here the longer I get.  Level: 73  Posts: 2160/2720 EXP: 3458036 For next: 27832 Since: 03-18-04 From: Adelaide, Australia Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Being fat is exceptionally unhealthy. It has a massive impact upon your health, most obviously your heart, but also on other organs, muscles, joints, etc. Considering the huge impact that being fat has on your body and health, then yes, it could be considered a disease. I'm overweight at the moment, and the joints and muscles in my legs don't really like it, and I have acid-reflux related to my weight too. And I'm only a *little* overweight.... |
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Danielle Local Moderator  Level: 76  Posts: 623/3359 EXP: 3958078 For next: 47982 Since: 09-15-04 From: RATE Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 3 hours |
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| They say it's going to take over smoking as America's #1 killer that can be controlled. And it's just because people don't care until they realize it's going to kill them. The fact that people continue to eat at McDonalds and other fast food places is an insult to mankind, if that's how you want to look at it. It's a disease just as much as cancer, but this one CAN be easily controlled. The effort required is just too much for most of America. I think heart attacks killing people at 50 years old is a good reason to call obesity a disease. |
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Kaioshin Blue Octorok Level: 10  Posts: 18/45 EXP: 3473 For next: 941 Since: 06-23-05 From: Slovenia Since last post: 94 days Last activity: 57 days |
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| Heh, interesting topic. A few months ago I was admitted to the hospital where they found out I was at the brink of getting diabetes (my diagnosis was "Obesitus Gravis", yes, in Latin for very fat, with a complication of high insulin resistance.). If I didn't change my diet immediately I'd get it. I already have high insulin resistance, but can for now avoid the injections and only have to eat a pill called Aglurab twice per day (speaking of which, I don't think I've taken one today yet  ). But since then I lost about 30 KG. I'm feeling a lot better, but some of the effects still remain. I still have the pills, I wonder if I'll ever be able to get off them... But no, not even while in the hospital, not even once did anyone say that obesity was an illness. Some people have very bad genes, others might have disabilities like my high insulin resistance which made me feel as if I need more food than I actually did, but some people are fat simply because they overenjoy themselves. The last group... Well, I'd say they're addicted to eating, but I wouldn't call it a disease... A long, long time ago people were only able to eat what they could get, but now, the standards are so high that food isn't hard to get and all. The main goal of people isn't to get food and survive anymore, but to enjoy themselves. Eating is an enjoyable activity for most people, even me...especially me. I guess this is just an effect of the progress of humanity... |
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Colleen Administrator Level: 136 Posts: 8946/11302 EXP: 29369328 For next: 727587 Since: 03-15-04 From: LaSalle, Quebec, Canada Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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| I can't buy it as a disease. It's not contagious and it's not something that needs to be treated with drugs or anything like that. But to be perfectly honest, there are a lot of people out there who think that they can eat anything they want as long as they don't "pig out" and they'll be fine. Then their metabolism gets shot and the next thing they know, they're 250 pounds. :\ Just use common sense (like maybe going to McD's once a week instead of 3-4 times) and mix up what you eat and you should be fine. |
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Danielle Local Moderator Level: 76 Posts: 631/3359 EXP: 3958078 For next: 47982 Since: 09-15-04 From: RATE Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 3 hours |
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Originally posted by Colleen It does have to be treated.. there are weight loss pills all over the market as well as prescriptions. There are tons of diets to follow, and countless other methods. If it's not treated, all of America will be overweight in a generation or two. Common sense is important, but very few people have it when it comes to eating. |
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99  Posts: 4284/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| It should be treated as such. It is a part mental and physical reaction. It is something needs to be eradicated. It is a dangerous, dangerous thing. | |||
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Colleen Administrator Level: 136 Posts: 8951/11302 EXP: 29369328 For next: 727587 Since: 03-15-04 From: LaSalle, Quebec, Canada Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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| You can easily treat obesity through natural methods, such as diets and exercise. You shouldn't, however, have to prescribe pills or have medical procedures (like lipo) to get the population under control. :\ I didn't mean obesity wasn't a problem, I'm just saying that there's effective ways to treat it without going to the doctor as if you had a disease. |
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99 Posts: 4285/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| But it should still be treated as a disease. And we aren't talking about portly people like me, or dudes with beer guts. We're talking about people with serious problems. |
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Colleen Administrator Level: 136 Posts: 8953/11302 EXP: 29369328 For next: 727587 Since: 03-15-04 From: LaSalle, Quebec, Canada Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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| Eh... I still can't see why it should be classified as such. I think that certain people might need treatment, they might be in a position where they can't lose weight due to a physical defect... but a disease? It just doesn't sound like the right definition to me. And if nothing else, obesity is (in most cases, aside from those where someone has thyroid problems or something of that ilk) preventable - and if the United States, for instance, doesn't want today's kids to become tomorrow's fat slobs, then they need to start driving that point home ASAP. |
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Tarale I'm not under the alfluence of incohol like some thinkle peop I am. It's just the drunker I sit here the longer I get. Level: 73 Posts: 2161/2720 EXP: 3458036 For next: 27832 Since: 03-18-04 From: Adelaide, Australia Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| I can see why it would be classified as a disease, considering all the health problems directly caused by it, and the preventable deaths caused by it also. As for going to the doctor about it, people should be encouraged to do so. I'm not saying that things like liposuction or pills are the answer -- the doctor will be able to advise ways to lose weight that are healthy and effective and suited to YOU and your existing health problems. Too many people disregard the doctor entirely when considering losing weight which is dangerous. |
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geeogree Bloober Level: 34  Posts: 372/448 EXP: 231583 For next: 22068 Since: 03-16-04 From: Calgary, Canada Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 11 hours |
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| either way, it is definately an overlooked problem... especially in the younger generations... it's more normal for a 60 year old person to keep extra weight.... but kids and young adults shouldn't be carrying very much extra weight.... |
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Dude Man Koopa Level: 18 Posts: 45/116 EXP: 29288 For next: 609 Since: 05-02-04 From: Wareham Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 7 hours |
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| To me a disease is disorder in the human body caused by either a bacterial infection, a virus infection, or a faulty gene/ organ. But to call something which 90% percent of the time is caused by the humans themselves seems ridiculous. I'd call it a condition if anything. |
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Tarale I'm not under the alfluence of incohol like some thinkle peop I am. It's just the drunker I sit here the longer I get. Level: 73 Posts: 2164/2720 EXP: 3458036 For next: 27832 Since: 03-18-04 From: Adelaide, Australia Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| A disease is any abnormal condition of the body or mind that causes discomfort, dysfunction, or distress to the person affected or those in contact with the person. Taken from Wikipedia, but I'm sure I can look it up in a dictionary and find a similar definition. |
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Dei* Nipper Plant Level: 26  Posts: 117/412 EXP: 97995 For next: 4280 Since: 06-18-05 From: USA, Florida Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 1 day |
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| I too, can't see it as a disease, and if it were calssified as such I would have to say it's your own fault you brought it upon yourself. Although this really isnt the case half the time, because it can naturally happen no matter what. I just think that the people who CAN/COULD prevent it should eat a little bit more carefully. | |||
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NSNick Laidback Admin Level: 85  Posts: 2642/3875 EXP: 5895841 For next: 2699 Since: 03-15-04 From: North Side School: OSU Since last post: 9 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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Originally posted by Tarale The dictionary definition is even broader: From dictionary.com |
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99 Posts: 4290/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Originally posted by Dei*  WTF? |
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Tarale I'm not under the alfluence of incohol like some thinkle peop I am. It's just the drunker I sit here the longer I get. Level: 73 Posts: 2166/2720 EXP: 3458036 For next: 27832 Since: 03-18-04 From: Adelaide, Australia Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| I'm gonna have to second that "WTF". Well, on "bringing it on yourself" -- my current overweightness I wouldn't quite classify as having been "bought upon myself". I have had clinical depression, and one of the things that happened with me is that I tended to gain weight whilst on the antidepressants. o.o So I wouldn't consider that I "bought it upon myself".... Course, that's another reason why I think that the doctor should be somebody that people discuss their weight with. While on the antidepressants, nothing I did seemed to help me shift any weight / stop putting weight on. I should've discussed this with a doctor; maybe had a change of medication or been given some other advice as to how to prevent the weight from becoming a problem. The doctor would've had extra knowledge that might've helped. |
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Dei* Nipper Plant Level: 26 Posts: 121/412 EXP: 97995 For next: 4280 Since: 06-18-05 From: USA, Florida Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 1 day |
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| Ok I just somehow KNEW I worded that wrong. Ok what I meant to say, I think, is that it's mostly your fault if you're obese. | |||
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Tarale I'm not under the alfluence of incohol like some thinkle peop I am. It's just the drunker I sit here the longer I get. Level: 73 Posts: 2167/2720 EXP: 3458036 For next: 27832 Since: 03-18-04 From: Adelaide, Australia Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| In a lot of people's cases, yes, I'd have to agree. However, I do have to wonder if that has to do with the topic of it being a "disease" or not. Anyways, if it wasn't already obvious, I believe it is a disease, and I believe that not enough people take it seriously. I think that it should be seen as a HEALTH issue, and not a BODY IMAGE issue, and that people should seriously consult with their doctors (particularly if they are "Obese") to come up with a SAFE and effective plan for weight loss. (Note: I think too many people don't even consider that weight loss can be dangerous too....) (edited by Tarale on 06-27-05 11:23 AM) |
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