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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99  Posts: 46/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Okay...I was just reading a hand out about the battle for the Bay of Syracuse during the first Roman expansionistic wars...The first Punic War against Carthage. It turns out in the bay of Syracuse, the inventor Archimedes was told to build weapons to stop the invading Romans. He built cranes to tip ships. Massive catapults, and other wonders. The best of all was an array of hexegonal mirrors which 'shot fire'. That means that the first use of laser weaponary occured in 300 BC.  Am I the only one that is creeped out by this? |
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Colleen Administrator Level: 136 Posts: 91/11302 EXP: 29369328 For next: 727587 Since: 03-15-04 From: LaSalle, Quebec, Canada Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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| Is that only in text or are there documents to show how that happened? My guess is that there was some trickery involved, unless they shot searing rays of sunlight at soldiers...  |
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99 Posts: 48/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| There are various history books that have this information in it. The Romans wrote about it, as did the citizens of Syracuse and merchants in the area Basically sunlight is 25 degrees celsius. Now, based on one of the energy conservation laws, if you reflect that single ray of sunlight 25 times you get 500 degrees, the temperature of fire. That would set the ship ablaze. Of course, 25 refelections onto parabolic mirrors, leading onto a larger focusing mirror that is flat would do the trick... |
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Utilityman Like Like Level: 44  Posts: 35/813 EXP: 566605 For next: 44680 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 353 days Last activity: 4 days |
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| Just as I was initially creeped out by "mirror towers" appearing in the campaign editor for the first Age of Empries. Well, this just confirms things. Were they actually put into practice or what? |
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99 Posts: 50/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Originally posted by Ultimanium Just as I was initially creeped out by "mirror towers" appearing in the campaign editor for the first Age of Empries. Well, this just confirms things. Were they actually put into practice or what? Yup, the Roman fleet was partially destroyed by these. In fact, the Romans were so impressed that they tried to capture Archimedes. Of course, being the old grouch he was, he talked back to the officer attempting to apprehend him saying 'don't touch my circles'...meaning the mathematical work he was doing...So, the officer choped off his head  But this is the only account of something like this ever being done...And no subsequent attempts have worked. |
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Alastor the Stylish Hey! I made a cool game! It's called "I poisoned half the food, so if you eat you might die!" Have a taco.  Level: 114  Posts: 36/7620 EXP: 16258468 For next: 51099 Since: 03-15-04 From: Oregon, US Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Whoa. Creepy. Why was this never put into practice later? (Aside from the impracticalness, I mean) | |||
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Utilityman Like Like Level: 44 Posts: 37/813 EXP: 566605 For next: 44680 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 353 days Last activity: 4 days |
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| I'd think it's because it's much easier to calculate where an explosive fired up at will land due to gravity than something like light, which is everchanging throughout the day. | |||
Banedon Giant Red Paratroopa Level: 55 Posts: 79/1408 EXP: 1291380 For next: 22809 Since: 03-15-04 From: Michigan Since last post: 101 days Last activity: 90 days |
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| I also heard that the Greeks (or maybe it was the Romans) built a mechanical calculating device, which was found at the bottom of the ocean...in other words, the world's first computer. | |||
Kitten Yiffer Purple wand Furry moderator Vivent l'exp����¯�¿�½������©rience de signalisation d'amusement, ou bien ! Level: 135 Posts: 60/11162 EXP: 28824106 For next: 510899 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 4 min. |
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| there is Light towers in Age of empires which shoots "laser beams" (actually concentrated light. heh) But yeah, everyone can do this. Magnifier anyone? |
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Bogie Purple Leever Level: 24  Posts: 11/201 EXP: 69651 For next: 8474 Since: 03-15-04 From: New York Since last post: 245 days Last activity: 72 days |
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Originally posted by EvillerLegion Okay...I was just reading a hand out about the battle for the Bay of Syracuse during the first Roman expansionistic wars...The first Punic War against Carthage. It turns out in the bay of Syracuse, the inventor Archimedes was told to build weapons to stop the invading Romans. He built cranes to tip ships. Massive catapults, and other wonders. The best of all was an array of hexegonal mirrors which 'shot fire'. That means that the first use of laser weaponary occured in 300 BC. Am I the only one that is creeped out by this?There are also light towers in Total Annihilation: Kingdoms. It's probably possible but i don't think that they would have thought of that way back then. |
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HyperLamer <||bass> and this was the soloution i thought of that was guarinteed to piss off the greatest amount of people Sesshomaru Tamaranian Level: 118 Posts: 14/8210 EXP: 18171887 For next: 211027 Since: 03-15-04 From: Canada, w00t! LOL FAD Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Originally posted by EvillerLegion There are various history books that have this information in it. The Romans wrote about it, as did the citizens of Syracuse and merchants in the area Basically sunlight is 25 degrees celsius. Now, based on one of the energy conservation laws, if you reflect that single ray of sunlight 25 times you get 500 degrees, the temperature of fire. That would set the ship ablaze. Of course, 25 refelections onto parabolic mirrors, leading onto a larger focusing mirror that is flat would do the trick... I SO have to try that sometime.  |
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Alastor the Stylish Hey! I made a cool game! It's called "I poisoned half the food, so if you eat you might die!" Have a taco. Level: 114 Posts: 65/7620 EXP: 16258468 For next: 51099 Since: 03-15-04 From: Oregon, US Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Yeah, like you could even set up mirror towers on your own. | |||
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99 Posts: 166/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Originally posted by Banedon I also heard that the Greeks (or maybe it was the Romans) built a mechanical calculating device, which was found at the bottom of the ocean...in other words, the world's first computer. I heard about that...It was the Greeks I believe...Something called a water clock, they modified it in order to make use of numbers for primitive adding |
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Alastor the Stylish Hey! I made a cool game! It's called "I poisoned half the food, so if you eat you might die!" Have a taco. Level: 114 Posts: 66/7620 EXP: 16258468 For next: 51099 Since: 03-15-04 From: Oregon, US Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| That'd be nice to have. Nice and pointless. | |||
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99 Posts: 172/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Originally posted by Kyouji "Kagami" Craw That'd be nice to have. Nice and pointless. Not really, at that time, when doing basic accounting, this would speed up the process |
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BookReader Ninji Level: 25  Posts: 5/232 EXP: 86317 For next: 3303 Since: 03-15-04 From: Albuquerque, New Mexico (Land of Disenchantment) Since last post: 22 days Last activity: 2 days |
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| This is an example of focusing sunlight sort of like what you do to ants with a magnifying glass. In other words, not lasers. It still kicks a whole lot of ass though. | |||
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Alastor the Stylish Hey! I made a cool game! It's called "I poisoned half the food, so if you eat you might die!" Have a taco. Level: 114 Posts: 72/7620 EXP: 16258468 For next: 51099 Since: 03-15-04 From: Oregon, US Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| How would a giant adding machine help in accounting more than an abacus? An abacus is much easier to carry, and could be kept in the shop, too. | |||
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99 Posts: 177/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Originally posted by Kyouji "Kagami" Craw How would a giant adding machine help in accounting more than an abacus? An abacus is much easier to carry, and could be kept in the shop, too. Because the abacus is Chinese, dumbfuck. |
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Cymoro PATRICK DUFFY WILL LASER YOUR SOUL   Level: 67  Posts: 58/2216 EXP: 2549743 For next: 43129 Since: 03-15-04 From: Cymoro Gaming Since last post: 6 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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Originally posted by EvillerLegion Originally posted by Kyouji "Kagami" Craw How would a giant adding machine help in accounting more than an abacus? An abacus is much easier to carry, and could be kept in the shop, too. Because the abacus is Chinese, dumbfuck. Leg: 1, Dumbfuck: 0 Also, I dare you to find the square root of 108 on an Abacus. |
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Imajin Buster Beetle Level: 34  Posts: 22/452 EXP: 234863 For next: 18788 Since: 03-15-04 From: Kingdom of Zeal Since last post: 39 days Last activity: 53 days |
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| Someone needs to tell Kyouji to lighten up Wehn I saw the topic title, I immediately tyhought of some guys in togas on the helm of a flying acropolis, attacking the Millenium Falcon with laser beams.. |
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