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Posted on 06-04-05 02:45 AM Link | Quote
...I really hope you people don't think you can prove your SSBM skills on a message board.

...another reason why a online feature on SSB would rock.
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Posted on 06-04-05 03:23 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Sion
OK that was lame and its getting old already. If your half way decent the BaseBall Bat is nothing at all to worry about. Its super easy to dodge, for me at least.


I don't think that he thought he was introducing a new technique....
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Posted on 06-04-05 04:24 AM Link | Quote
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Good luck getting me off the edge

And I do the same thing with Marios cape. As soon as your off the stage just say Good Bye cause you wont come back Unless I wanna whoop you some more.



You couldn't. Given that you believe that your combo would actually work on me...Sounds like YOOOOOOOOOOOOU SUCK.


The Screw Ball combo? I never said that would work on anyone, I just said that I know the combo. Its actually really easy to avoid if you see it coming.
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Posted on 06-04-05 05:39 AM Link | Quote
I don't know.... I'm more effective with the lightweight characters. (Besides weak Pichu) If I use a new character on the Revolution, then I'd use either Paper Mario, or one of Kirby's Helpers.
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Posted on 06-04-05 06:04 AM Link | Quote
I don't know if this is out of place or not but...

Will the Revolution allow us to play SSBM online (in short, we have the choice between SSBMelee and SSBRevolution)?... or do only SSBR will feature online gaming?

If only SSBR feature online capabilities, then I hope all the characters are kept. I wonder if some characters' styles will be changed...

For exemple, is Ganondorf going to have real moves?

Is Pichu's insane offensive power be watered down and a few of his handicaps removed so he isn't such a weird character?

Will Fox be weakened even further?

Will Sheik be made a bit slower?

Will there be new characters?

Will the Adventure mode still here?... and if so, will an actual storyline be added?

I don't espect anwsers... but if only SSBR can go online, it seems that this whole thread is useless since it focus on SSBM characters... but maybe not. SSBM character discussions are always fun... as long as they don't turn into flame wars.

NOTE: Unstead of relying on internet sites, I made my own lists of stats for each character and found out that the characters were pretty well balanced. It was also then that I was surprised by some results (notably, finding out that some characters were MUCH weaker than espected *COUGH!*Ganondorf*COUGH!* while others were MUCH stronger *COUGH!*Pichu*COUGH!*. I should post the complete results of my tests sometimes...


(edited by Zerodius on 06-03-05 01:07 PM)
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Posted on 06-04-05 09:47 AM Link | Quote
I'm sorta expecting Krystal to be in, as popular she is among the Starfox fanbase. I wonder if they will strip any charachters this time, maybe Young link goes away and the current link in favor of the "Twilight Princess" one. They're after all, not the same Link...
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Posted on 06-04-05 11:45 AM Link | Quote
The Sion says...
Screw Ball+Jump+Jump+Throw Screw Up+Rising Kick= Your Dead

The Emperor Ziffatine says...
SHIELD+DODGE+FIREBALL+EDGE OF THE FOOT KICK+DEFLECTOR@THE EDGE = F U U DED


Heed Dad's immortal words.
"Scoop, Roll, Throw, Hit, Duck."

The Kitten Yiffer says...
I'm sorta expecting Krystal to be in, as popular she is among the Starfox fanbase.


I think it's more the furry fanbase, than the Starfox fanbase...

Zerodius
No one can truly answer those questions, but SSBM can't be put online because it has no LAN feature and, short of changing the game code, there's no way to play it online. But all the characters of SSB made it to Melee, so we can expect that Revolution will only be added to. But I think Ganon is fine the way he is. Everyone says he's a Captain Falcon clone, but he plays completely differently.
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Posted on 06-04-05 08:29 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Sion
Screw Ball+Jump+Jump+Throw Screw Up+Rising Kick= Your Dead


Good luck killing me with that if I
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Posted on 06-04-05 10:36 PM Link | Quote
I want to play as a Goomba!

You could do such cool things with a more powerful system. Imagine having random physics like with Paper Mario, so that when you jump...The wind could take you, or you fall down in random patterns. This could be the ultimate, the primo game of all time. Just need to utilize the fans, is all.
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Posted on 06-06-05 11:03 PM Link | Quote
I would want to play as Cortez from Timesplitters. < /silliness >

Actually, I use marth, so I wouldn't want anyone is particular.
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Posted on 06-06-05 11:42 PM Link | Quote
The japanese magazine Famitsu listed the downloadable games(are they all of them or just what they know will be put on), but, well, I'll let this quote do the talking.

"43 GCN - for some reason it has screenshots from SSBM and FF: Crystal Chronicles. Im not sure if this is implying you can download GC games, that these will work over Wifi, or simply that they will work with the Rev."

There's afew possibilities, it's possible they could rerelease a version of SSBM and such built for Revolution Wi-Fi to allow playing of the original, or perhaps downloads for the Revolution that take the needed data when playing SSBM and send it over the wi-fi interface, or perhaps a whole new set of code could be loaded into the ram overtop the original game. SSBM would make sense to do this to, in SSB to SSBM some characters changed, and if anything done for the Revolution edition was unliked, like for example making Ganon use a new moveset, they simply could go back to the old game. Or wait for them to release an old style Ganon downloadable character.
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Posted on 06-07-05 12:30 AM Link | Quote
The magazine listed some info about the revolution's online capabilities but so far as I know that list was not in it and was in fact made up by someone, someguy.
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Posted on 06-07-05 01:33 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Someguy
The japanese magazine Famitsu listed the downloadable games(are they all of them or just what they know will be put on), but, well, I'll let this quote do the talking.

"43 GCN - for some reason it has screenshots from SSBM and FF: Crystal Chronicles. Im not sure if this is implying you can download GC games, that these will work over Wifi, or simply that they will work with the Rev."

There's afew possibilities, it's possible they could rerelease a version of SSBM and such built for Revolution Wi-Fi to allow playing of the original, or perhaps downloads for the Revolution that take the needed data when playing SSBM and send it over the wi-fi interface, or perhaps a whole new set of code could be loaded into the ram overtop the original game. SSBM would make sense to do this to, in SSB to SSBM some characters changed, and if anything done for the Revolution edition was unliked, like for example making Ganon use a new moveset, they simply could go back to the old game. Or wait for them to release an old style Ganon downloadable character.


Yea, but that might take a large amount of memory in a memory device (BTW, what is the revolution using?), or have to be downloaded every time you wanted to use ganon.
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Posted on 06-09-05 09:08 PM Link | Quote
New characters that would be awesome:
- Meta Knight
- Space Pirate (Metroid)
- Kid Icarus
- King DeeDee, hey there's Bowser?
- The green dude from all the F-Zero's
- Diddy Kong

And of course, as we all wish ... a handful of people from the Sonic team. It would be awesome, but I'm not getting my hopes up.

Anyways, I hope this time around the characters are more diverse. SSBM sure, it had say Mario and Dr. Mario, but were they really that different? I liked Dr. Mario more, but he was just 'slightly' stronger, yet slower; but in the end that's really not that big of a difference to have a completely new character.

So I hope this time around we'll see brand new characters with completely new moves and such. Yeah SSBM had that, but not a whole lot of it.

As for my best character prediction, I can't say. Characters will probably change. In the original SSB, I liked Kirby the best and was awesome with him, but as for SSBM I really didn't like him at all. So I won't be surprised if a couple of characters a changed up a bit.
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Posted on 06-09-05 11:16 PM Link | Quote
My predictions for changing characters are:

-Ganondorf get his own moves
-Mewtwo could become stronger but lose a bit of his combo abilities (in SSBM, he's the weakest offensive-wise but the best at doing combos)
-Pichu's offensive power is SERIOUSLY reduced but he gets a range and defensive boost (in SSBM, he's the strongest character offensively actually... but his range and defensive abilities are rock-bottom)
-Zelda's defensive power is increased (in SSBM, she is a LOT less endurant than Sheik actually)
-Game & Watch's moves would be better balanced (there are some of his attacks that are cheap while he got moves that barely do anything)
-Mario would jump higher (he's supposed to be good at jumping, remember? In SSBM, he is one of the weakest jumpers!)
-Peach's priority for her moves would be lowered but her speed could be increased a bit (she was a bit slow but her attacks had insane priority; almost unblockable)
-Roy's Counter would be made a bit less powerful (Marth always do medium damage with his... while Roy strikes back for twice the power he was struck with... add to this that Counter has insane priority and you get a deadly move. Using Counter, I can beat BOTH Master Hand and Crazy Hand as quickly as if I were using Yoshi!)

As for new characters... we shall see but I hope we get more villains.

So far, we have Bowser, Ganondorf, and Mewtwo as playable characters.

We also get Dark Bowser (NOT Giant Bowser. Giant Bowser is bigger and stronger while having less endurance) and Giga Bowser (only game where he actually look different from regular Bowser) as last bosses... but I count them as alternate versions of Bowser still.

Total: 3 villains + 2 boss-only versions of 1 of those villains
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Posted on 06-10-05 08:33 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Zerodius
Mewtwo... the best at doing combos
No! No! No! Sheik! Fox! Peach! Marth! Falco! NOT MEWTWO OF AT ALL.

Originally posted by Zerodius
Pichu's the strongest character offensively actually...
What the fuck? You'll have to explain this one

Originally posted by Zerodius
-Game & Watch - there are some of his attacks that are cheap
Again... Explain this one Because that's not true at all.

Originally posted by Zerodius
-Roy's Counter would be made a bit less powerful (Marth always do medium damage with his... while Roy strikes back for twice the power he was struck with... add to this that Counter has insane priority and you get a deadly move. Using Counter, I can beat BOTH Master Hand and Crazy Hand as quickly as if I were using Yoshi!)
But Counter sucks. Almost no one is going to be hit by it more than once in a match. It's the kind of move you throw out when your opponent is doing something predictable for some easy damage the first time you play them for awhile - after that they adjust their patterns accordingly, and you can't hit them with it anymore. OF COURSE you can beat master hand and crazy hand... That doesn't mean anything, they have obvious patterns that anyone could catch on to. There are no CPU-controlled enemies that are in any way difficult to beat.
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Posted on 06-11-05 05:48 AM Link | Quote
Shiek! TRANSVESTITE POWER!
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Posted on 06-14-05 12:50 PM Link | Quote
Man, I have a couple of characters I like to play, but with Zelda/Shiek I can kick arse. After that is like Bowser. Yeah, he's more fun to handle.
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Posted on 06-14-05 01:12 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Kyouji Craw
Originally posted by Zerodius
-Game & Watch - there are some of his attacks that are cheap
Again... Explain this one Because that's not true at all.


I think he means Judgement. Doesn't #9 strike with all the force and passion of a thousand tappers? And the other numbers do enough to keep them close enough for a blast of #9.
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Posted on 06-15-05 12:13 AM Link | Quote
Judgement has 9 levels of strength, and I think different elements. 7 makes some food appear, 1 gives Mr. Game and Watch about 10 or 20 damage, and 9 is very strong, one hit KO I think, and possibly worth the damage you'd take that may get recovered via lucky number 7's food giving powers anyway. Also, I may be wrong but I heard Pichu has stronger electric attacks then Pikachu because it can't controll it, which is why it takes damage it's self. Mewtwo flys around easilly, and might make for good combos, and he can corner an enemy with his Shadow Ball(Forgive me if it's the wrong name, been so long) most likely. Again, I'm no expert, this is simply from what I've read. Roy's Counter probably wouldn't need readjusting if the computer AI is upped atleast at higher levels so it can spot repeat attacks. It'd at the simplest would just have to notice if a player is doing what'd end up with a "Stale Moves" bonus for that attack, if I remember the name right. Then it'd adjust for whatever attack was being used or simply try another random strategy. I wonder if they will get super professonal SSBM players to test the game out to help make the AI realistic on higher levels, I think they did that with... what was it, Soul Calibur 3?
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