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Silvershield Slime Level: 30 Posts: 338/345 EXP: 153029 For next: 12840 Since: 04-11-04 From: New Jersey Since last post: 60 days Last activity: 6 hours |
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| Yeah, Ziff. See my newest signature. My main gripe with Protestants - I'm not sure which sects, specifically, though I know this to be a general belief - is their reliance on faith over deeds. Faith is important, no doubt, but I entirely reject the notion that one can live a terribly sinful life and still be saved just by virtue of belief in the Savior. I wager that one's destination might be associated with his faith, but that a virtuous and loving life will override ignorance of (or simply lack of belief in) Christianity. |
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Legion banning people for no reason sure is fun Level: 101  Posts: 3704/5657 EXP: 10399737 For next: 317938 Since: 03-15-04 From: The Crossroads is under attack! Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 5 days |
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Originally posted by Silvershield I always had a problem with that too. |
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The SomerZ Summer, yay! Level: 45  Posts: 737/862 EXP: 618182 For next: 41982 Since: 03-15-04 From: Norway Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 3 hours |
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| Actually, children are born Christian. Jesus Christ said to his disciples to bring the little children to him, because they belonged in the Kingdom of Heaven. So children are Christians through virtue of being children. That will most likely be my only post in this topic. I'm tired of religious discussions, since it's basically the same thing over and over again. |
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knuck Hinox Banned until 19-58-5815: trolling, flaming, spamming, being a general fucktard... Level: 62 Posts: 1254/1818 EXP: 1894574 For next: 90112 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 14 hours Last activity: 9 hours |
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Originally posted by The Gamorr ZNo. They're born Bobisms. Bob Almighty said so. He also wrote a book, therefore it's true amirite? |
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Legion banning people for no reason sure is fun Level: 101 Posts: 3708/5657 EXP: 10399737 For next: 317938 Since: 03-15-04 From: The Crossroads is under attack! Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 5 days |
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Originally posted by The Gamorr Z ... Are you being serious? (This question is serious. I want to know.) |
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The SomerZ Summer, yay! Level: 45 Posts: 738/862 EXP: 618182 For next: 41982 Since: 03-15-04 From: Norway Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 3 hours |
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| I'm being serious, yes. Through Christian dogma, children are granted entry to Heaven because they are children. This, of course, doesn't mean that children make a concious descicion to believe in God or Jesus Christ the day they are born. Only a fool would believe that. Children are ignorant to religion for many years from their birth, but since they are children, they will enter Heaven, should they die (which, of course, would be a tragedy). (Not that I actually believe in Heaven, I'm talking strictly about what is Christian dogma here) |
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Legion banning people for no reason sure is fun Level: 101 Posts: 3722/5657 EXP: 10399737 For next: 317938 Since: 03-15-04 From: The Crossroads is under attack! Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 5 days |
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| Maybe so, but that doesn't make them Christian. That would take a concious effort on their part. | |||
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The SomerZ Summer, yay! Level: 45 Posts: 739/862 EXP: 618182 For next: 41982 Since: 03-15-04 From: Norway Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 3 hours |
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| Well, that's all basically a matter of definition, isn't it? | |||
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Legion banning people for no reason sure is fun Level: 101 Posts: 3725/5657 EXP: 10399737 For next: 317938 Since: 03-15-04 From: The Crossroads is under attack! Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 5 days |
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Originally posted by The Gamorr Z I don't care how you personally interpret it, but the "rule" of thumb is that you're not a Christian unless you personally make the will to do so. Infants lack the necessary brain power to make such decisions. |
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99  Posts: 3798/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Ummm. Bible = Christian unbaptized = untarnished souls = Christians. Ziff = Baptized without being asked at 1 1/2 weeks old = Christian without making conscience effort. |
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Legion banning people for no reason sure is fun Level: 101 Posts: 3729/5657 EXP: 10399737 For next: 317938 Since: 03-15-04 From: The Crossroads is under attack! Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 5 days |
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| Well when you guys can decide on one definition, then let the rest of the world know ok? | |||
francoispress Goomba Level: 8  Posts: 11/30 EXP: 2158 For next: 29 Since: 05-14-05 Since last post: 168 days Last activity: 167 days |
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| Answering a question like that amounts to saying "Do you think Koopa exists?". That's how I look at the question. I think the bible is interpreted too literally and may be a collection of stories with a hidden meaning sort of like fables. |
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Graviteh Level: 31 Posts: 218/500 EXP: 165989 For next: 19374 Since: 03-27-05 From: The Internet Since last post: 42 days Last activity: 1 day |
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| that's what I always thought, francois. Just a collection of moral stories. | |||
Scatterheart Panser Level: 29 Posts: 163/342 EXP: 143409 For next: 4476 Since: 06-06-04 From: Sydney, Australia Since last post: 17 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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| Giving thanks at meals: Why is this? As Bart Simpson said "Dear lord. We paid for this stuff anyway, so thanks for nothing." Is it belief that God can change the weather to make crops whither and die? Are you giving thanks that you have mouths that are capable of eating? I'm not really familiar with the bible. What exactly did God create? Just our planet? Or the entire universe? If we ever find life-forms on other planets, is religion going to claim them as "God's work?" I'm really curious about what the bible mentions about the universe. How vast it is, and the life-forms ofcourse.  I believe in Super Mario  |
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99 Posts: 3812/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Read the Old Testament, the prophecy of Ezekial is pretty weird, and mentions space-time relations. Moreover, various Apocrypha bring up topics like this, and many more Jewish holy books examine the vastness of our surroundings. | |||
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Legion banning people for no reason sure is fun Level: 101 Posts: 4031/5657 EXP: 10399737 For next: 317938 Since: 03-15-04 From: The Crossroads is under attack! Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 5 days |
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| For further reading on this matter, check out the following links or your local library. Actually, scratch the library one. Here And here. Here too! Booya. |
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99 Posts: 3936/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Did you read your first link? The second link's name says it all. It doesn't dispute the historical existence of Christ. Your final link is the matter of faith. |
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Legion banning people for no reason sure is fun Level: 101 Posts: 4033/5657 EXP: 10399737 For next: 317938 Since: 03-15-04 From: The Crossroads is under attack! Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 5 days |
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| I read all of them, and? All I said was that they were for "further reading". |
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99 Posts: 3937/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Your first link, which would require the legitimate holding of these books and their sources, is the only one in there that really interests me. The others hold too strong a bias, but the first link serves to have a direct and scholarly critical look at his existence/all that jazz. I asked if you had read it, because I was wondering if you had read the legitmate sources cited within the link. | |||
Some Dude Micro-Goomba Spamming, Multiple Account Level: 6 Posts: 11/13 EXP: 631 For next: 276 Since: 05-05-05 Since last post: 139 days Last activity: 138 days |
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| hmm i aint relegious but i know theres something after death. i think the bible is mostly true but not all |
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