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Tamarin Calanis

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Posted on 05-09-05 11:24 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Scatterheart
Originally posted by Grey Jedi Cheveyo
Either it came from a pool of chemicals, or some magic man in the sky made it. If it were the first one, then we should be able to eventually recreate that scenario (let me know if it has been recreated, please).


I remember seeing a doccumentry about famous people of the past, where a man tried to "evolve" flies, as their life span is much shorter than humans' (obviously), but his efforts never really paid off. One day however, a new mutant fly flew in through his window, which had never been identified before. His genereic efforts paid off!

Erm... The part of my post that you quoted was related to the original creation of life on earth, while your comment seems to be related to evolution of life.
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Posted on 05-10-05 12:09 AM Link | Quote
Yes, I do.

And I also think that creationism is stupid.

Geeogree, that is some of the worst logic I've ever seen. You do realize that oh...The Ghostbusters have a fan club. As does Hey, Arnold! but they aren't real people. It's the fact that there are Graeco-Roman administrative records from this time frame that have been produced out of old storehouses in Judea that I believe that he is 100% real. As well as Buddhist monastic records relating to his lost years. Egytpian merchants, etc. There is a huge amount of proof in favour of his existence, with whiny little teenagers and angsty adults saying that he never existed.
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Posted on 05-10-05 01:38 AM Link | Quote
Yes Evolution is a theory. And I also see creationism as a theory. Nothing is 100% safe in science, questioning things is what makes humans go forward. Being stubborn with one thing is not...

Creationism and Evolution can co-exist sorta. Evolution don't really define on what started life after all.

And oh, i'm sure Jesus exist. Well, i'm not sure about the thing he did, althought i'm not trying to prove against him. The only thing I can be sure of is that he must have been very darkskinned, for some reason the church portray him as white when the people down there dosen't look like that at all.
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Posted on 05-10-05 02:13 AM Link | Quote
I never said creationism wasn't a theory or a belief, I just pointed out that evolution is unproven.
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Posted on 05-10-05 03:40 AM Link | Quote
Yeah, the dude still owe me 20 $. Seriously, I think a guy named Jesus existed long ago, and was trying to help the other a lot, but to me, he was just, a man.
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Posted on 05-10-05 05:38 AM Link | Quote
We KNOW he existed, what he did and who he was is a different story.

We do?

We don't. It's all debateable.
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Posted on 05-10-05 05:40 AM Link | Quote
Evolution is a scientific fact Kitten Yiffer.

Whether or not we evolved from primates remaines to be seen, but evolution itself is a prooven fact.
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Posted on 05-10-05 05:46 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by windwaker
We don't. It's all debateable.


Actually, there are historical records that state that there was a man named Jesus from Nazareth and that he did do extraordiary things. It just doesn't prove anything religious.
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Posted on 05-10-05 05:57 AM Link | Quote
I haven't seen or heard of any of this. The Bible is the only "proof" I've seen, and well... it's the bible.
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Posted on 05-10-05 06:32 AM Link | Quote
just because -YOU- have never seen or heard any of it doesn't mean it's not there....
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Posted on 05-10-05 06:48 AM Link | Quote
He wasn't from Nazareth. He was a Nazarene, which was a sect of Judaism. He was from Galilee.
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Posted on 05-10-05 10:29 AM Link | Quote
hooray for important input!
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Posted on 05-10-05 10:49 AM Link | Quote
geeogree, you're being warned. Again.
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Posted on 05-10-05 04:05 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Legion
Evolution is a scientific fact Kitten Yiffer.

Whether or not we evolved from primates remaines to be seen, but evolution itself is a prooven fact.
I still see it as a theory.

*however*

I actually do belive in evolution, and take it for fact "in meanwhile". I just won't stubbornly hold at Evolution if it's proved wrong. Questioning theories is a good thing, as long you do it in a scienfitic way. Most of the time it just proves the theory further. Questioning it by pure faith is stupid...

Evolution probably won't be proven wrong thought in long time and probably grows stronger in science, but then. There have been alot of times in history where things have been taken as scienfitic fact. Earth being the center of the universe anyone?

Then, most of the time. It is usually the church who have stayed by with thoose misfacts...

I do belive that humans comes from apes, apes and humans are so equal in so many ways it can't be a coindence...

Way offtopic about evolution now, sorry.

And oh, I think the Romans did note down something about Jesus and his followers or something. I'm not 100% sure as I don't have any sources currently. Heard this for awhile ago.


(edited by Kitty Jedi on 05-09-05 11:06 PM)
(edited by Kitty Jedi on 05-09-05 11:07 PM)
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Posted on 05-10-05 09:22 PM Link | Quote
Ziff: thanks for that super important information!
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Posted on 05-11-05 01:09 AM Link | Quote
Geeogree. I've had enough of this. Either you stop posting in this forum or you stop attacking me. Your choice.

I've spoken to an admin. One more snarky remark, and you get a 3-day ban.


(edited by Emperor Ziffatine on 05-10-05 08:17 AM)
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Posted on 05-11-05 06:13 AM Link | Quote
attacking you? it's hardly attacking.... maybe you're too sensitive to handle this forum?

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Posted on 05-11-05 07:21 AM Link | Quote
Um, geeogree... You saw what Ziff said, right?

Last warning. Either contribute something to the forum or don't say anything at all. Your choice.
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Posted on 05-11-05 10:11 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by geeogree
attacking you? it's hardly attacking.... maybe you're too sensitive to handle this forum?




Sensitive is one thing, but you're obviously just posting to piss him off. Antagonizing staff is smart!
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Posted on 05-11-05 11:52 AM Link | Quote
Math: see, the thing is.... I have nothing to fear.... not really...

sure, I like coming here and posting once in a while.... I probably have about 1000 posts over the last 4 years at this place.... including any restarts etc....

that's less than 1 a day.... is banning me going to make a big difference to me? not really.... it's one less board to visit....

that's why I'm not scared of the staff here....
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