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Is it okay to steal rips from other hackers using RLM?
Yes, and give credit
 
26.5%, 27 votes
Yes, and DON'T give credit
 
10.8%, 11 votes
No, it's immoral
 
12.7%, 13 votes
I think RLM is evil! Curse you Parasyte!
 
7.8%, 8 votes
I love Kyouji Craw!
 
13.7%, 14 votes
cough cough
 
28.4%, 29 votes
Multi-voting was enabled. This poll is closed.

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The Kins

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Posted on 04-21-05 11:09 AM Link
Originally posted by skateboarder11
Once again. People rip because they can't draw their own GFX.
Less "can't", more "too lazy", but yes, guilty as sin and loving it.

EDIT:
Originally posted by Time Rebellion

heh heh heh!
funny!
Somebody can easily extract the pallete then import it to any level

And have a purple, miscoloured Mario. Just a tad suspicious no?


(edited by Trashykins on 04-20-05 08:41 PM)
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Posted on 04-21-05 07:12 PM Link
I voted yes with and without credit and peter_ac sucks/cheats at polls.

I voted yes with credit because assembling tile squaroids and correcting palletes both suck. They should get credit for that. I also voted without because you don't really need to credit, but it'd be nice... because, once again, assembling tile squaroids and correcting palletes both suck. I voted peter_ac cheats at polls because I like screwing with forum polls.
Sendy

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Posted on 04-21-05 08:09 PM Link
That said, people who rip graphics from commercial games are wankers who don't care for such ideals any how..


Yeah well you can stick your holier-than-thou attitude right where the sun don't shine.


(edited by Sendy on 04-21-05 03:10 AM)
(edited by Sendy on 04-21-05 03:19 AM)
Tamarin Calanis

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Posted on 04-21-05 09:47 PM Link
Originally posted by Parasyte

That said, people who rip graphics from commercial games are wankers who don't care for such ideals any how.


Okay, so let's see here. It's not okay to rip graphics from commercial games, but it's ok to use the core programming from commercial games? Now, I might be wrong, but aren't you a romhacker, Parasyte? And don't romhackers usually use the game's original engine, sometimes with a few changes, but never completely rewritten? Yeah, I thought so.

But, hey, go ahead and hold on to your double standards. Go ahead and try to justify it with some bullshit excuse. Who knows, you might come up with a pretty creative one.
XPeter

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Posted on 04-21-05 10:25 PM Link
WHOA guys take it easy, and lay off Parasyte! now if you can't respect his opinion, you should at least respect him for creating a program which a lot of you people love. and just for the record, i only edited the last choice in the poll, because of people like Glyph Phoenix who like to take advantage of an easy opportunity to insult someone. So to that rather immature mod/admin who edited the poll: i did not cheat in the poll.
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Posted on 04-21-05 10:31 PM Link
stealing rips is immoral and people who do that should go to jail and burn in hell for eternity!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111oneONeon32@*@31

and i LOVE KYOJI CRAUW!!!!!!!!!LOLZ! ROFLLOLZORS!!!!




Seriusly now, i think theres no problem on stealing rips (since they were already stealed from the original game when they were ripped, doh) as long as if the 'stealer' gives credit to the haker who made the rips.

Parasyte

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Posted on 04-21-05 11:41 PM Link
That's odd, I always thought there was a specific reason that ROM hacks are distributed in IPS format [and/or other generic patch formats]? Oh! That's right. It's because people generally try to avoid copyright infringement in public places. Hacking a ROM is one thing, distributing a ROM is another. Distributing a generic patch is somewhat "less infringing" on the copyright holder's rights, but only when it does not contain copyrighted material. Unfortunately for you, all of your hacks which make use of commercial graphics automatically deem the patches illegal. Those patches are, quite frankly, destroying the entire philosophy behind ROM hacking, which has generally been to preserve the legality behind it [or whatever remains of the legality]. Therefore, hackers who do such things are wankers, and should outcast from the community.

Now then, I'm interested in hearing more of how the pot accuses the kettle of calling the pot black!
Sendy

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Posted on 04-22-05 12:04 AM Link
Fair enough, I'll outcast myself. I didn't realise releasing my hack (or demos thereof) was such a destructive act, but I will stop out of respect for 'real' hackers, and keep my SMW work among friends who I know won't distribute it. I'm after all only a graphic/level designer, and have never tried to be anything more. I'm certainly not putting 10000's of hours into a work which is going to get me called a wanker or negative consideration. Parasite isn't stupid and seems to be well respected so he's likely not to be the only one to accuse me of things.
Juggling Joker

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Posted on 04-22-05 12:21 AM Link
Closed on request. From now on, by the way, try to be civil with your debates.
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