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Zemus

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Posted on 03-31-04 01:25 AM Link | Quote
Is there a way to make the database support other language characters (greek, Russian, Korean, Japanese, Chinese, etc etc etc) or does that require a Microsoft Access Database or somethin'? 'cause it sucks that it just converts it to a question mark.
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Posted on 03-31-04 01:30 AM Link | Quote
What are you actually trying to do? What do you want to convert to another language?

As for foreign texts showing up as question marks or rectangles/squares, that simply means you don't have the support for that language on your computer, but you can download all of them if you really need them.


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Posted on 03-31-04 01:34 AM Link | Quote
No, I do have support for other languages. Acmlm Boards don't support unicode. Go copy some japanese text from a website and paste it here and you get lots of question marks. And I just think it'd add some variety to usernames if people could use different alphabets. Not for this board, but for my own whenever I get around to working on it.

methinks Acmlm just tried it on his screen name and it didn't work


(edited by ZimZumZem on 03-30-04 03:42 PM)
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Posted on 03-31-04 01:44 AM Link | Quote
What do you mean, it doesn't work?

*goes to emulation9.com (Japanese) and copies some text*




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I use a Mac which supports japanese and when I visit emulation9.com the japanese is fine, but when I view your characters, Acmlm, they are ASCII... even the edit where you say it works just appears *,A,. (the dot is in the middle of the line instead of bottom and the A has a circle above it). This is the same when using an altavista.com search... some pages appear in japanese while others appear as nonsense characters. I'm using IE for Mac. So I think perhaps the board does not properly support alternative alphabets despite your supposed success? Maybe this is a problem which can be remedied by adding a line of text in the head of the pages to support different languages?
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Posted on 03-31-04 05:27 AM Link | Quote
Yeah, I see the ASCII too ... but it's only because the browser doesn't automatically use the appropriate encoding on this page (probably because most of it is normal ASCII) ... when I set it manually to Shift-JIS (Japanese), everything is fine ... and it did show up properly when I copy-pasted it here, without me having to do anything ...

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Posted on 03-31-04 11:28 AM Link | Quote
what is this Shift-JIS you speak of? If it means temporarily switching the language of the site, that's lame :-P As you know, I'm an Opera user... I don't have the luxury of using a buggy IE's "features" like that, so unless it were a Windows-wide setting, then that'd work. But how come some sites run between languages freely? and heck, even dictionary.com's translator utility uses unicode characters for the various languages which can then be copied and pasted into documents and such. I am curious of this Shift-JIS though, as it might allow me to copy/paste the foreign text into Paint Shop Pro's text tool which at this point just ends up as question marks also. But yeah... how come some sites can flow between languages fully supported, and others default to ASCII?
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Posted on 03-31-04 12:02 PM Link | Quote
the mozilla also support this. shift-jis only changes this ascii thingies to real japanese
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Posted on 03-31-04 09:34 PM Link | Quote
ummm I'm in firefox and see it fine....

but basically it is not a databae problem, the database will store whatever you want it to

you can actually store binary files in MySQL and served them out of those pages......

like images.. you can upload images into SQL ... and display them with an SQL query.....

it's just your browser not dispalying what it should....
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Posted on 04-01-04 12:15 AM Link | Quote
I've decided to use a PC today and now that I've found Shift-JIS, it does indeed work. How come the browsers don't/can't support all languages at once?
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Posted on 04-01-04 04:58 AM Link | Quote
why can't everyone just use English ??
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Posted on 04-01-04 05:38 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by ErkDog
why can't everyone just use English ??


Because some people online like using japanese text. They like japanese stuff, so they use it. Not hard.
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Posted on 04-01-04 06:02 AM Link | Quote
it woudln't be hard for everyone to use english either
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Posted on 04-01-04 06:03 AM Link | Quote
um... because as much as we'd like to think that English is the only language that's important, there's a lot of countries that believe their language is equally important. And I was asking for my own board, so don't worry, not like I'm trying to persuade Acmlm to enforce all languages on this board :-P But I do wonder if there's a way to allow for all the encoding options to be enabled at once... I mean, Opera almost made me think it did that with its language settings... but it seems that playing with those doesn't do anything at all except change which garbled ASCII characters it uses to display the phucked up Japanese text in this board. Wish I knew of a way to have like... Russian, Korean, Chinese, Japanese, Arabic, English, and like other languages that have different alphabets... a way to view all those languages on one page (without using images)... that bugs me :-P
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Posted on 04-01-04 06:55 AM Link | Quote
이것은 한국어 이다
これは日本語である
这是汉语

Korean, Japanese and Chinese ... I see them all fine in the text box here (copy-pasted from Babelfish), and it still looks fine when I preview the post ... and still fine after I view it in the thread (without having to do anything), while the Japanese I posted earlier shows up as ASCII ...

I think Babelfish does use Unicode, though, that might help


(edited by aCyEMeLLeM on 03-31-04 08:57 PM)
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Posted on 04-01-04 07:27 AM Link | Quote
hrm... that stuff works for me too...

?


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Posted on 04-02-04 03:07 AM Link | Quote
in last two posts I see nothing but ???? 's but do I care ?? no... cause even if it DID show the text... I couldn't read it....
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Posted on 04-02-04 11:23 PM Link | Quote
When I change Firefox's encoding set, I can view the Japanese, Chinese, and Korean perfectly.
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