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D-loading Music: Right, or wrong?
There's no reason why we shouldn't.
 
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Pirating music is bad, mmkay?
 
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Posted on 04-01-04 04:13 AM Link | Quote


I download video game music but I don't download the type of music you like.
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Posted on 04-01-04 04:34 AM Link | Quote
Bah, download all you want. You aren't hurting the artists much. They're rich anyway. You're more hurting the evil record companies and the greedy RIAA.
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Posted on 04-01-04 04:34 AM Link | Quote
Well, now I guess I and many other Canadians can justify downloading music.
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Posted on 04-01-04 05:08 AM Link | Quote
Woah, WOAH. "Pirating" music is the same as stealing. If you think stealing is "right", then society, government, practicality and I have some things to say to you about your behavior.

Paying for music downloads by using services to get around ridiculous music industry price-jack-ups is perfectly acceptable, however.

To everyone who thinks pirating all the music you want it perfectly acceptable:

FUCK YOU.



Especially Clockworkz, Wrath, and JaCory for being ignorant assholes.

I know a local band that could have easily gone big and made money, but because all the assholes in the world decided to pirate thier album instead of buying it, they ended up without one record deal and actually footing a bill on the recording fees. Saying that pirating music doesn't hurt the artists much isn't true, especially for the lesser name ones.

Colleen: There's a difference between a legal means to get away with it and a justification for it. Law is not necessarily moral. If you think this is wrong, then look at people like Hitler and Stalin, and try to say that people who obeyed thier orders are guiltless simply because it was the law.


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Posted on 04-01-04 09:51 AM Link | Quote
wite: Well, I can see your point there.

I'm not saying I'm justified to download the music. None of us are unless we own the album (and if we did, why not just rip the music?). But on the other hand, it's... strange. Might not be moral, but it's legal in Canada now. That just doesn't seem right.

That probably pissed off the RIAA though. Regardless of whatever stance you take, pissing off the RIAA is always good fun.
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Posted on 04-01-04 10:59 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Banedon
Bah, download all you want. You aren't hurting the artists much. They're rich anyway. You're more hurting the evil record companies and the greedy RIAA.


Yeah. I agree. The RIAA doesn't realize that we are listening to their music. It makes us want to go to the concerts and stuff.
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Posted on 04-01-04 11:49 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by witeasprinwow
Woah, WOAH. "Pirating" music is the same as stealing. If you think stealing is "right", then society, government, practicality and I have some things to say to you about your behavior.

Paying for music downloads by using services to get around ridiculous music industry price-jack-ups is perfectly acceptable, however.

To everyone who thinks pirating all the music you want it perfectly acceptable:

FUCK YOU.



Especially Clockworkz, Wrath, and JaCory for being ignorant assholes.

I know a local band that could have easily gone big and made money, but because all the assholes in the world decided to pirate thier album instead of buying it, they ended up without one record deal and actually footing a bill on the recording fees. Saying that pirating music doesn't hurt the artists much isn't true, especially for the lesser name ones.

Colleen: There's a difference between a legal means to get away with it and a justification for it. Law is not necessarily moral. If you think this is wrong, then look at people like Hitler and Stalin, and try to say that people who obeyed thier orders are guiltless simply because it was the law.

I'm picking up on some stress...
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Posted on 04-02-04 01:48 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Clockworkz
I'm picking up on some stress...


Stress? Me? Are you joking?

In all seriousness, I am next to never "stressed". I do, however, hate injustice.
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Posted on 04-02-04 02:03 AM Link | Quote
You may want to take this to PMs; this may get real ugly real quick.
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Posted on 04-02-04 03:05 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Colleen
wite: Well, I can see your point there.

I'm not saying I'm justified to download the music. None of us are unless we own the album (and if we did, why not just rip the music?). But on the other hand, it's... strange. Might not be moral, but it's legal in Canada now. That just doesn't seem right.

That probably pissed off the RIAA though. Regardless of whatever stance you take, pissing off the RIAA is always good fun.


The only thing I can think of is if you have it on another format. Like, I've been getting albums from thrift stores, but it's kind of impractical to bring a turntable around with me wherever I want to listen to 'em.

Wrath: PLEASE. You know his history? He basically made himself after YEARS of slogging through obscurity. He didn't get filthy rich off of Devil Without A Cause going septuple platinum. He was there already. (And yes, I saw that interview. Or at least that soundbite.)

Clockworks: Have you ever recorded a demo? It's entirely possible that he lost that much on it. Or were you referring to the "love of music" bit? If you are, explain the billions of musicians that AREN'T signed to big-money deals. Are they all just there trying to get paid?
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Posted on 04-02-04 03:18 AM Link | Quote
Love of music bit. And yes they are. Everyone wants more money. That's why its called god's good GREEN Earth.
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Posted on 04-02-04 03:25 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Clockworkz
Love of music bit. And yes they are. Everyone wants more money. That's why its called god's good GREEN Earth.


That's like saying that, say, UN volunteers who work in poor countries are just doing it to get a good resume. If you think all artists are doing it to get paid, you're just plain wrong. I can't explain how wrong you are. NoFX refuses to do interviews or be on MTV, The Offspring puts thier own songs on Kazaa before thier album is released, and you still say everyone is in it for the money? Money is a bonus, but for the majority of them, it's not what they're after.
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Posted on 04-02-04 05:10 AM Link | Quote
Some bands like it while others don't. It all depends on whether you're mainstream (Filesharing BAD) or underground (Filesharing GOOD).
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