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Posted on 03-26-05 10:07 PM Link | Quote
Yeah, but in 10-20 years am I really going to need to know how my... plumbing works?
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Posted on 03-26-05 10:12 PM Link | Quote
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And, stop this gay hate bullshit, it's lame. Unless you were ass raped, you have no right to descriminate like that.


And even those that were have no right to discriminate. Trust me on that one, I have a little more knowledge than the average person on the inherent pains and trials that you're faced after an incident like that.


True, and that probably wasn't a good example. This "GAY IS RAPIST" conservative bullshit idea is really lame, nobody intelligent thinks it's true. I don't go around raping women, homosexuals don't go around raping people of the same sex.
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Posted on 03-26-05 10:13 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by HGanon
Yeah, but in 10-20 years am I really going to need to know how my... plumbing works?


But you need to teach your kid these things...BECAUSE THOSE EVIL LIBERAL TEACHERS SHOULDN'T BE TEACHING THEM ABOUT THEIR BODIES! IT IS SIIIIIINFUL!
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Posted on 03-26-05 10:18 PM Link | Quote
I didn't say that.
If the teachers have to teach this stuff because they were told to, that's fine. But it shouldn't be biased. For example, they shouldn't teach that pre-marital sex is wrong, nor that sex without a condom will give you an STD. That's all I'm trying to say.
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Posted on 03-26-05 10:22 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by HGanon
I didn't say that.
If the teachers have to teach this stuff because they were told to, that's fine. But it shouldn't be biased. For example, they shouldn't teach that pre-marital sex is wrong, nor that sex without a condom will give you an STD. That's all I'm trying to say.


That's very different from what has been said.

They are teaching facts, not subjective opinions. Having sex without a condom causes you to run the risk of contracting an STD. But it is also harmful to the woman involved in that she may get pregnant.
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Posted on 03-26-05 10:24 PM Link | Quote
Bah, we all know that real sex takes place between a man and his right (usually) hand.
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Posted on 03-26-05 10:25 PM Link | Quote
Alright alright. Let's just end this argument.
At my school's it is biased opinion, and kids are now being taught at an early age (fifth/sixth grade) that's why I got upset.
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Posted on 03-27-05 12:25 AM Link | Quote
A good portion of kids (even at "good" schools) start having sex around 7th grade or earlier. And that was when I was growing up (I'm 22). Who knows how young it's gotten. You think they're too innocent to be dealing with this stuff or something? Better they learn how to protect themselves from STDs, pregnancy, and all that jazz before they get in worse trouble, I say. Sure, not everyone is going to have sex that early, but choosing not to educate is simply looking the other way, and hoping nothing bad will happen. Out of sight, out of mind, as is often said.
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Posted on 03-27-05 11:24 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by HGanon
Alright alright. Let's just end this argument.
At my school's it is biased opinion, and kids are now being taught at an early age (fifth/sixth grade) that's why I got upset.


Wait, they basically say "DO NOT HAVE SEX" over and over. Why would it matter what age they're taught this?
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Posted on 03-27-05 09:40 PM Link | Quote
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Posted on 03-27-05 10:05 PM Link | Quote
Yes they can. The common ages of puberty's beginnings have gone down to 10 for girls and 12 for boys. The little tikes are growing up faster.
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Posted on 03-27-05 10:09 PM Link | Quote
How do you know this?

If it's true, then WTF is happening?
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Posted on 03-27-05 10:15 PM Link | Quote
Because reports say it is true. It has been published a few times in medical journals that the age of adolesence is going down.

Besides, even if this weren't happening. A considerate and intelligent sex-ed program implimented in the 6th-8th grades, with an additional one in high school is what will keep kids healthy and safe.
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Posted on 03-27-05 10:28 PM Link | Quote
Yeeesh! Kids becoming natural adults at such an early age is horrible.

I admit, Sex-Ed CAN help them, but it can't be too extreme, and be based on political beliefs.
But still, kids are their parents responsibility, and they shouldn't rely on schools for everything. Why can't they take the time to explain to their kids the risks of sex without protection, or how their bodies work?
I was just disgusted to hear from a middle-aged woman how the female sex organs work. The girls were even more disgusted to see the male anatomy. If parents were to explain it, then it might be easier for kids to handle.
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Posted on 03-27-05 10:38 PM Link | Quote
We have sex education at earlier age.

We have fewer problems with STD's, teens giving births and raping.

...I doubt that's a coincidence.
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Posted on 03-27-05 10:52 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by HGanon


Exhibit A: I admit, Sex-Ed CAN help them, but it can't be too extreme, and be based on political beliefs.





Exhibit B: I was just disgusted to hear from a middle-aged woman how the female sex organs work. The girls were even more disgusted to see the male anatomy. If parents were to explain it, then it might be easier for kids to handle.


A: This diagram shows that some people believe that gonorrhea and herpes are completely designed for Democrats, and only Democrats

B: This shows that some people lack maturity. Parents who do not have the knowledge, nor the materials to teach, will end up doing their children a disservice.
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Posted on 03-27-05 11:09 PM Link | Quote
Exhibit A: All I did was say the teachings shouldn't be biased.

Exhibit B: You'd expect maturity from 10-12 year olds just learning how the bodies of the opposite sex works?
Parents should get that knowledge. There are organizations and groups dedicated to teaching parents about sex risks. As for materials, libraries are full of books and papers on sex.
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Posted on 03-27-05 11:12 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by HGanon
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I used to know a 12 year old girl who was pregnant. I also had a friend that said he had sex while he was still in elementary school.
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Posted on 03-27-05 11:13 PM Link | Quote
Competence. You're really missing the bigger picture here.

I'd LOVE to do a social experiment. We'll have a community of 10'000. You get 5000, I get 5000. I decide to have a stronger sex-ed program in place. You have yours with your 5000. We'll let the programs work for 5 years. We'll see how whom has been more successful.
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Posted on 03-27-05 11:16 PM Link | Quote
What big picture?

Will you stop the sarcasm already?
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