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dan

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Posted on 03-29-05 03:11 AM Link
Maybe you could order the list by quality of the hacking tools included?
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Posted on 03-29-05 04:27 AM Link
Originally posted by Disch
But anyway, have you tried LoopyNES? It's very quick, also, and is leaps and bounds ahead of NESticle.
I was just about to mention that. loopyNES doesn't have the best mapper support, and later versions have slightly bugged sound (depending on the game), but its emulation accuracy still rivals that of a lot of modern emulators, especially when it comes to odd quirks and rarely-used features of the PPU (as often seen in demos). I believe there are still some demos that only work 100% correctly in loopyNES.
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Posted on 03-29-05 04:45 AM Link
Ok, the list has been revised with 2 categories

Best Emulators and Other Emulators.
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Posted on 03-29-05 05:04 AM Link
Yes, real time CHR-ROM editing is nice, but editing tiles in their standard layout is often confusing and hard to do, as tiles are hard to locate.

As a newbie, I did my grpahics editing in Nesticle and it was a horribly hard and cumbersome ordeal (http://www.geocities.com/dahrkdaiz/world-4-sp.bmp for an example of what I did in Nesticle, versus http://dahrkdaiz.panicus.org/Screens/602.png which I did in YY-Chr). Getting out of using Nesticle for graphics editing was the best thing for my artwork. Not to mention it's hard to rip graphics using Nesticle

With programs like TLP or YY-Chr, you can rearrange the tiles so that they're easier to find and piece together, not to mention you have drawing tools like rotate, cut and paste and shifting, so even though real-time graphics editing is a novel idea, it doesn't hold a candle to editors created specifically for graphics. It's as easy as edit, save, reload rom, load state.

Anyways, the point is that Nesticle's "saving grace" doesn't save it much. Sure it's good if you have a shitty slow PC, but GBA's PocketNES runs better than Nesticle on the slowest of PC's.

Nesticle may be good on ancient PC's for playing games, but as a hacking emulator, it's pure crap. Even on my old 233MHz Pentium I used FCEUd with the sound off. It was slow, but it was worth it for the hacking utilities.

Edit: Oh and uhm, your list is still flawed, so I'm closing this thread unless BMF wants to open it back up. There's tons of arguing and you're still stuck on saying Nesticle is one of the best "hacking" emulators.


(edited by DahrkDaiz on 03-28-05 07:06 PM)
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Posted on 03-29-05 05:40 AM Link
Ok, it's gonna be hard to compile a list to everyones satisfactions. I challenge anyone to compile that type of list tho.
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Posted on 03-29-05 05:46 AM Link
Challenge taken, in fact, I was working on it since 15 minutes ago, you obviously aren't listening to the majority of rom hackes who are saying that for ROM Hacking purposes, Nesticle is one of the worst emulators to use. And woops! I forgot to close this


(edited by DahrkDaiz on 03-28-05 07:46 PM)
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