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Kasumi-Astra Administrator Level: 62  Posts: 1298/1867 EXP: 1971846 For next: 12840 Since: 03-15-04 From: Reading, UK Uni: Sheffield, UK Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 12 hours |
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| I must say the entry range powerbook is burning a serious hole in my pocket now. They're becoming quite affordable now, starting at (edited by Kasumi-Astra on 03-17-05 05:50 PM) |
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FreeDOS Lava Lotus Wannabe-Mod :< Level: 59 Posts: 1259/1657 EXP: 1648646 For next: 24482 Since: 03-15-04 From: Seattle Since last post: 6 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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| Python, if they don't have a precompiled version, you can compile it. Java, Sun probably makes an official one. Otherwise it won't be very portable. C++, Mac OS X/Darwin comes with GCC stuff. Microsoft butchers C/C++ in their books and compilers (yet compiles clean code), so that may be a problem. Photoshop... if you're not going to buy, use the GIMP. |
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Kasumi-Astra Administrator Level: 62 Posts: 1300/1867 EXP: 1971846 For next: 12840 Since: 03-15-04 From: Reading, UK Uni: Sheffield, UK Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 12 hours |
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*nods* I probably wasn't going to do a lot of graphics on it anyway, I save that for my main machine. Any on-the-spot stuff can be done in GIMP (jesus, why did they have to name it that?  )I must say that I've never had to compile a source of an application to run on a machine. I've done tonnes of stuff with my own programming projects, but never anything else. I'm not shy to learn, though. That is part of the reason I want to try something non-Windows. Is it usually easy to do? |
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Rydain Ropa Blaze Phoenix Runs With the Dragon Within Level: 42  Posts: 510/738 EXP: 490056 For next: 31306 Since: 03-15-04 From: State College, PA Since last post: 6 days Last activity: 8 hours |
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| As far as Photoshop is concerned, I would suggest looking for cheaper older versions of the software online. If you're a student, you can probably get a discount on a new version. Mmm...edumacational pricing... *Homer drool* Many open-source packages can be installed for you via Fink, which uses Debian's packaging system (which, in my experience, works quite well). You need Apple's implementation of X11 installed first, but that looks like a simple download from their website. On the subject of emulators: Snes9x is available for OS X. It should be pretty obvious what console Genesis Plus emulates.  |
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Kasumi-Astra Administrator Level: 62 Posts: 1301/1867 EXP: 1971846 For next: 12840 Since: 03-15-04 From: Reading, UK Uni: Sheffield, UK Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 12 hours |
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Thanks I actually found Fink while looking for Python stuff, I just hope it's easy to use  What is X11?  |
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Tarale I'm not under the alfluence of incohol like some thinkle peop I am. It's just the drunker I sit here the longer I get.  Level: 73  Posts: 1576/2720 EXP: 3458036 For next: 27832 Since: 03-18-04 From: Adelaide, Australia Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| X11 is a.. I guess the best I can describe it as is a Windowing system. It's also called the "X Windowing System". It's used to give a graphical interface to UNIX and Linux applications. You will need it for the things you can get in Fink that have a GUI (as opposed to the command-line things you can get in Fink) On Tiger, it hasn't been released yet. I'd wait a bit longer if I were you, it will be announced at some point. If you get something now, you'll probably have to pay to upgrade to Tiger later, wheras if you wait, you'll likely get Tiger with it. |
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FreeDOS Lava Lotus Wannabe-Mod :< Level: 59 Posts: 1260/1657 EXP: 1648646 For next: 24482 Since: 03-15-04 From: Seattle Since last post: 6 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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| The GIMP originally stood for Generic Image Manipulation Program. Then when the main developers left it, some people took it and renamed it the GNU Image Manipulation Program. why do you ask? X11, aka X Window System, X Windows, X, etc, is a graphics engine. I'd rather not say X Window System, as that's inacurrate. Window managers handle windows As for your compilation question, Windows is generally thought to be one of the most difficult systems to get around in. Because it is just so weird on how it does stuff. |
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HyperLamer <||bass> and this was the soloution i thought of that was guarinteed to piss off the greatest amount of people Sesshomaru Tamaranian Level: 118 Posts: 3792/8210 EXP: 18171887 For next: 211027 Since: 03-15-04 From: Canada, w00t! LOL FAD Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Mainly because M$ can't make up their minds.  Some APIs return 0 for failed and 1 for success, others use 0 for success, and a few don't return anything and rely on GetLastError() instead (which also requires using SetLastError(0) beforehand, lest you get false errors from other parts of the code).  Anyway, emulators should be easy to find. And I know you've probably done so already, but some creative use of quotes and keywords on Google can get you surprising results. (IE: No luck with 'OSX SNES Emulator'? Try 'OSX Mac OS "SNES Emulator"' or something along those lines. Of course I haven't tried either of those because I really don't need such an emulator, but you get the idea. )(edited by HyperHacker on 03-18-05 06:33 PM) |
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Kasumi-Astra Administrator Level: 62 Posts: 1304/1867 EXP: 1971846 For next: 12840 Since: 03-15-04 From: Reading, UK Uni: Sheffield, UK Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 12 hours |
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| Actually, I was really short on time, and I thought Zophar's would turn up the goods quickly. Unfortunately, Zophar's is a little harder to navigate than I remember, and the popups that get around Firefox seriously started pissing me off >=( So, I think I've made up my mind. I do want a Powerbook, it seems that it should be simple enough to set up a variety of languages that I may be using in my final year. I'm looking at the 12" model, because it's so diddy and good value for money. Can anyone suggest a good third party Mac support site that has useful information that will be enough to tide me over if I do get a Powerbook? |
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Tarale I'm not under the alfluence of incohol like some thinkle peop I am. It's just the drunker I sit here the longer I get. Level: 73 Posts: 1578/2720 EXP: 3458036 For next: 27832 Since: 03-18-04 From: Adelaide, Australia Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Third party Mac support? I'm not really sure, as I was more often than not able to find the answers to my questions in the Help within OS X. However, when I did search for things on the Internet, I did find myself at macosxhints a bit. Of course, I have had some mac experience (even if it was from the original macs mostly) so a few things were familiar to me. My biggest problem when I switched was finding replacement software for all those little applications I used on a daily basis. Here's what I've settled on after a fair bit of searching... Adium X -- multi protocol Instant Messaging Transmit -- FTP Toast -- CD/DVD Burning Colloquy -- IRC client KisMAC -- wireless scanning utility VLC -- media player/media content streamer They're just some odds and ends I've found useful. I've never needed to find an MP3 player though for OS X -- iTunes is IMHO perfect. |
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windwaker Ball and Chain Trooper WHY ALL THE MAYONNAISE HATE Level: 61  Posts: 1317/1797 EXP: 1860597 For next: 15999 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 4 days Last activity: 6 days |
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| Whoa, whoa, whoa, hold up. People buy Photoshop? |
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Kasumi-Astra Administrator Level: 62 Posts: 1309/1867 EXP: 1971846 For next: 12840 Since: 03-15-04 From: Reading, UK Uni: Sheffield, UK Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 12 hours |
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| Thanks Taryn, that's going to be super-useful when I get around to getting a Mac And yes, I was thinking of buying Photoshop if I could find it cheap enough. I wanted to abstain from having illegal software on my machines Either that or I was thinking it was harder to find Photoshop for the Mac |
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Rydain Ropa Blaze Phoenix Runs With the Dragon Within Level: 42 Posts: 515/738 EXP: 490056 For next: 31306 Since: 03-15-04 From: State College, PA Since last post: 6 days Last activity: 8 hours |
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| I'm making the switch as well. The ultra w00t 9000's motherboard has begun its downward spiral into utter craptacularity. I used to get 3+ months of uptime easily, but now it locks up at least once a day with disk timeout errors. Replacing the motherboard and processors would cost a hell of a lot (nearly $2000 - no, really - believe me, the original mobo + procs cost FAR less when we first got them, and at the time, they were high-end), and of course, there would be the added overhead of installing them, making sure the rest of my hardware works OK, and reinstalling Debian. I'd been drooling over OS X for a while because I am a Unix fangirl, I love the interface (it's perty, a dock would be MUCH more useful to me than a taskbar, and Expose is mexcellent), and it's reported to work beautifully and only improve as new versions are released. Thus, buying a new Power Mac was the natural choice. I may miss ZSNES, which can't be run even under X11 on a Mac due to its fuckpile of x86 assembly language, but eh, whatever. Much as I generally like Debian, some aspects require tinkering. For a while, I enjoyed learning about Linux by doing (or by watching Rando fix something that I didn't know how to fix), but at this point in my life, there are other hobbies I'd rather spend time on and I want a system that Just Works. So...the new system is arriving on Tuesday...and I'm sure Tarale's links will come in handy for me as well. |
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Tarale I'm not under the alfluence of incohol like some thinkle peop I am. It's just the drunker I sit here the longer I get. Level: 73 Posts: 1587/2720 EXP: 3458036 For next: 27832 Since: 03-18-04 From: Adelaide, Australia Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Well, if either of you two need to ask me questions, you both should know where to find me on AIM/MSN/ICQ Jesper's another good person to ask questions too. And yes, the Dock rocks and Expos |
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Rydain Ropa Blaze Phoenix Runs With the Dragon Within Level: 42 Posts: 516/738 EXP: 490056 For next: 31306 Since: 03-15-04 From: State College, PA Since last post: 6 days Last activity: 8 hours |
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| My two favorite window managers, Enlightenment and XFce4, have an iconbox that works sort of like the dock in that you can "park" applications there. XFce4 also has a configurable panel that can launch applications for you. From what I've read, it seems that the dock serves both those functions at the same time and offers more options as well (like popup menus over each application that let you do certain tasks, like, say, pausing the music in a media player, without having to show the window first). I love how it uses icons instead of descriptive text because it's space-saving and pertier and more informative at first glance. I also have a graphics tablet that's been taking up closet space since I switched to Linux. I was afraid to try to get it to work because I feared it would take a ton of painful effort. Now I'll actually have reason to not only use it but save up for a bigger one if I want to. Huzzah. Out of curiosity, what was Windows doing that chafed your ass? Was the computer specifically misbehaving itself, or do you just not like to work in Windows for whatever reason? The Windows machines I've had over the past two years at work (my old 2K box and my new XP one) generally behave themselves well, but there's just something about the interface that slows me down. Getting dual monitors helped because I could stick my terminals in one window and keep an eye on them at all times or put up a web application that I'm working on in one window and the source code in the other, but still, there's really no elegant way for a taskbar to handle all the stuff I have open at once (before anyone asks, I'm aware of the XP superbutton, but it doesn't help you much if you have a ton of different applications open at once). I've gone with the "increase its height, losing screen real estate but keeping the buttons mostly legible" option. A XP and OS X comparison site pointed out an interesting aspect of the different OS' dialogues that I'd never really noticed but can have an effect on your working speed. Since I read that, I noticed that GTK2 applications tend to use more OS X-ish confirmation dialogues as well. |
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neotransotaku Baby Mario 戻れたら、 誰も気が付く Level: 87 Posts: 2724/4016 EXP: 6220548 For next: 172226 Since: 03-15-04 From: Outside of Time/Space Since last post: 11 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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Originally posted by RydainIt's because when programming for windows, it's easier to use the predefined buttons instead of making different buttons for different dialog boxes--which totally kills in usability. As for that X vs. XP article, X totally wins out in terms of usability but Windows wins for functionality, at times but it's not enough times since both OS gives both of the same stuff in general. All in all, X is much much better than XP. If you aren't a gamer, then X is the way to go. Otherwise, you are better off sticking with XP since right now I see that as the only reason why to stick with windows overall... After reading that article, I'm tempted to convert my laptop to OSX... |
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Tarale I'm not under the alfluence of incohol like some thinkle peop I am. It's just the drunker I sit here the longer I get. Level: 73 Posts: 1588/2720 EXP: 3458036 For next: 27832 Since: 03-18-04 From: Adelaide, Australia Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Actually, some of it is mentioned in the first part of that article you've linked to, Rydain. Windows was just... gah. I was running Windows 2000, which was stable enough, but I have to run Ad Aware frequently, and AntiVirus frequently, and it takes forever on startup to load a million and one things that I don't WANT to load, but HAVE to load (I know I can disable things, but then stuff stops working), and it's... like the operating system is trying to get in my way, every little step of the way. Neither Linux nor OS X seem to do that. As for the graphics tablet taking "a ton of painful effort" to get it working.... well, I went through a bunch of painful effort, including modifications to the kernel. And all I managed to actually achieve was to make the tablet "wobbly" and to slow X11 down. |
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FreeDOS Lava Lotus Wannabe-Mod :< Level: 59 Posts: 1263/1657 EXP: 1648646 For next: 24482 Since: 03-15-04 From: Seattle Since last post: 6 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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| It slowed X down? That doesn't sound right. I've never even used a tablet, but that doesn't sound right ... Here's my thing on Windows: I don't use it ... for the most part. The only program I have with GNU/Linux is that I can't find a single Doom port in which the music plays. Sure, the sound effects work, but not the music  . Thus the only reason I use Windows, for Doom. It's Windows 2000. I used to use Windows for everything, as I'm sure most PC users do. I got introduced to free software in 2002, and I liked it. Back then I didn't know much about the morals of the software, so I was attracted to the word "free" as in price. Later, I discovered more about why it exists, and I thought that I should support it as well. I began replacing much of the software I used which was proprietary (MS Office, AIM (which Gaim is 1000x better anyway), even Explorer itself, etc). After a while, I decided that I should use a free operating system full-time, mostly because I was having trouble with Windows... not many free software works well on Windows. I started out with SuSE, which sucked. Then I went on to Fedora Core for a while... and now I'm on Slackware currently.heh... after I see speed benifits with Slackware, I notice Windows' flaws a lot more. Mainly it seems that Windows (all the versions I've ever used: 95, 2000, XP, Server 2003) likes to slow down over time for no reason. |
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HyperLamer <||bass> and this was the soloution i thought of that was guarinteed to piss off the greatest amount of people Sesshomaru Tamaranian Level: 118 Posts: 3810/8210 EXP: 18171887 For next: 211027 Since: 03-15-04 From: Canada, w00t! LOL FAD Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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I've noticed that too; Windows seems to detiorate. Things stop working and bugs just pop up out of nowhere. The startup time isn't pleasant, either, but Mandrake's was no better. Explorer is what pisses me off the most. At some point I think I'm gonna have to write a little shell of my own. How's this dock work, anyway?Originally posted by Rydain Did you try putting it on the left or right? You get tons more space that way. There's no way it could ever handle all the stuff I tend to have open at the top or bottom, but this way I rarely run out. |
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FreeDOS Lava Lotus Wannabe-Mod :< Level: 59 Posts: 1265/1657 EXP: 1648646 For next: 24482 Since: 03-15-04 From: Seattle Since last post: 6 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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The Dock works a little like a toolbar and a taskbar combined. You can start applications from it, and the Trash is also on it. Iconified (Windows term: minimise) windows transform down into the dock. It's really fun to watch...  (probably because I don't have a Mac myself  ) |
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