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windwaker Ball and Chain Trooper WHY ALL THE MAYONNAISE HATE Level: 61  Posts: 1304/1797 EXP: 1860597 For next: 15999 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 4 days Last activity: 6 days |
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| For those who care. All... two of you? http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/03/15/2327204 |
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FreeDOS Lava Lotus Wannabe-Mod :< Level: 59 Posts: 1247/1657 EXP: 1648646 For next: 24482 Since: 03-15-04 From: Seattle Since last post: 6 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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| It's just playing catch up with the other browsers that are threatening it. I'd be very surprised if Microsoft does any real innovation, as they like that word so much  |
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Kitten Yiffer Purple wand Furry moderator Vivent l'exp����¯�¿�½������©rience de signalisation d'amusement, ou bien ! Level: 135 Posts: 8573/11162 EXP: 28824106 For next: 510899 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 4 min. |
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| I would be happy if they added full PNG support. ...not saying that would make me using IE, thought I would start using PNG pictures alot more. Damn how I hate IE having... old things that forces web-designers to not add certain things.  |
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Kario In Possession of a Stolen Shovel Level: 65 Posts: 1480/2082 EXP: 2321379 For next: 14249 Since: 03-15-04 From: Texas... Yeehaw! Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 17 hours |
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| Ha! Microsoft is scared of Firefox. Sweet. | |||
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||bass Programmer Admin Level: 44  Posts: 234/817 EXP: 570813 For next: 40472 Since: 03-15-04 From: Salem, Connecticut Since last post: 26 days Last activity: 11 days |
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| MS is not "scared" of firefox. I wish all the fanitics would stop kidding themselves. Need I remind everyone that IE is a free product, and atleast for windows users, its difficult to impossible to actually uninstall IE. Another thing, an "updated version" is not a responce to fear. It's a responce to the fact that the current version hasn't been updated in a year. Cmon people start thinking for 3 seconds. |
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neotransotaku Baby Mario 戻れたら、 誰も気が付く Level: 87 Posts: 2671/4016 EXP: 6220548 For next: 172226 Since: 03-15-04 From: Outside of Time/Space Since last post: 11 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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Originally posted by ||bass I just have a feeling that freedos will come in and refute this... anyways, an official announcement about IE7? it seems interesting...i wonder what innovation that IE7 will have or will it just be a copy of features found in other browsers? (edited by neotransotaku on 03-15-05 10:11 PM) |
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FreeDOS Lava Lotus Wannabe-Mod :< Level: 59 Posts: 1249/1657 EXP: 1648646 For next: 24482 Since: 03-15-04 From: Seattle Since last post: 6 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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I refute that!  Yes, removing IE is very possible. I've done it on my copy of Windows.IE6 was released in what... 2001? That's just a version number to go by, so it would be around four years without an update. Others will debate and stretch the last update date back to 1997, with IE4. I still stand by my opinion that Microsoft is simply feeling threatened by other browsers and is doing this as a come back, without any innovation whatsoever. |
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HyperLamer <||bass> and this was the soloution i thought of that was guarinteed to piss off the greatest amount of people Sesshomaru Tamaranian Level: 118 Posts: 3746/8210 EXP: 18171887 For next: 211027 Since: 03-15-04 From: Canada, w00t! LOL FAD Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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It's possible, yes, but you lose a lot of functionality. I gotta have my Active Desktop... and for that matter, IE itself for testing layouts and page designs. It'd be nice if they made some major security updates (bringing the security level up to somewhere around "total crap"  ) though. I hate when I go to use someone else's computer and it's full of spyware, and having to teach people who use my computer (not that it happens a lot) how to use Firefox and them asking what's so bad about IE and not believing my answers.  Really though, Firefox already has everything I like about IE. Smooth scrolling and a popup image toolbar! |
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FreeDOS Lava Lotus Wannabe-Mod :< Level: 59 Posts: 1251/1657 EXP: 1648646 For next: 24482 Since: 03-15-04 From: Seattle Since last post: 6 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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| "functionality" ... pfft. I didn't lose much. I just lost IE. Like it matters. I remind you that Active Desktop is Internet Explorer, I've told you before. There's not much to compare it to... but say you removed Mozilla; don't go complaining that you can't use Mozilla anymore. | |||
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BMF98567 BLACK HAS BUILT A SILLY DICE-MAZE! GO! Current list of BURNING FURY >8( recipients: - Yiffy Kitten (x2) - Xkeeper Level: 53  Posts: 692/1261 EXP: 1094149 For next: 62970 Since: 03-15-04 From: Blobaria Special Move: Rising Meatloaf Backhand Combo Since last post: 21 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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| Yay...a new IE, a new truckload of security holes. They might as well just call it "HEY KIDS! DOWNLOAD ME IF YOU LIKE GETTING 0WNED!" I don't even want to know how many proprietary new "features" this is gonna have, just to further break websites' compatibility with standards-compliant browsers. "But Microsoft is leaning toward adding some additional CSS2 support to IE 7.0, but not embracing the standard in its entirety, partners say." Mmhmm. And the tradition of coding for multiple browsers continues... |
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HyperLamer <||bass> and this was the soloution i thought of that was guarinteed to piss off the greatest amount of people Sesshomaru Tamaranian Level: 118 Posts: 3764/8210 EXP: 18171887 For next: 211027 Since: 03-15-04 From: Canada, w00t! LOL FAD Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| A lot of Windows programs depend on IE, actually. One such example being the activation system. My install CD somehow has IE missing some important files, and nothing really works until I re-install them. |
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||bass Programmer Admin Level: 44 Posts: 236/817 EXP: 570813 For next: 40472 Since: 03-15-04 From: Salem, Connecticut Since last post: 26 days Last activity: 11 days |
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| Need I mention windows update. Also, anyone who wants to use the html rendering object in .Net will probably find it not work if IE is removed (someone please confirm this). |
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FreeDOS Lava Lotus Wannabe-Mod :< Level: 59 Posts: 1257/1657 EXP: 1648646 For next: 24482 Since: 03-15-04 From: Seattle Since last post: 6 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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| No, you don't. As of the current Auto-Update in 2000, XP, and Server 2003, it is 100% independent of Internet Explorer. In other words, you can still get updates from Microsoft without IE. I wouldn't doubt that using HTML objects in .NET would break without IE. Delphi uses IE unless you make your own. |
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RT-55J Ninji Level: 23  Posts: 19/240 EXP: 65287 For next: 2436 Since: 12-29-04 Since last post: 9 hours Last activity: 9 hours |
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| I have the urge to delete IE from my comp with Windoze 98. | |||
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FreeDOS Lava Lotus Wannabe-Mod :< Level: 59 Posts: 1261/1657 EXP: 1648646 For next: 24482 Since: 03-15-04 From: Seattle Since last post: 6 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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| 98lite does that with Windows 98. Although you have to pay for it |
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HyperLamer <||bass> and this was the soloution i thought of that was guarinteed to piss off the greatest amount of people Sesshomaru Tamaranian Level: 118 Posts: 3791/8210 EXP: 18171887 For next: 211027 Since: 03-15-04 From: Canada, w00t! LOL FAD Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Originally posted by FreeDOS That's only auto-update though, isn't it? If you wanted to update manually you'd still have to use IE or download and install them all manually. I had to disable auto-update after M$ made the brilliant decision to force-install SP2 with it. Figure out a way to make it not crash my computer, and then we'll see. Also I think there's a Mozilla-based HTML renderer available... I imagine the users would need at least part of Mozilla installed for it to work, but if you must avoid using IE entirely, you could include the required files in your installer. Just seems like a bit of a waste when they probably already have the IE one installed, unless it really needs the added security. (If it's just going to be used to view local HTML files or your own web site, IE wouldn't be all that bad a choice... ) |
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MetalMan88 Ninji Level: 23  Posts: 86/232 EXP: 63815 For next: 3908 Since: 12-11-04 From: 1970s Since last post: 10 days Last activity: 8 hours |
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| Ah yes... IE. I would uninstall it immediately myself, but I have a problem that may be a little off-topic: How do I hide all the icons from my desktop after doing so? Since Activedesktop is what I use to set the 'hide all icons' thing. Otherwise, yes, I hate IE. It still attempts to keep itself as the top browser on my computer, even though I only use Firefox. Dang it, I almost posted a topic instead of a reply.  |
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Phoenix21692 Goomba Level: 11 Posts: 24/34 EXP: 4837 For next: 1148 Since: 03-17-04 From: NY Since last post: 167 days Last activity: 31 days |
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Originally posted by FreeDOS There's another program called Revenge of Mozilla II that works in a similar manner. |
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Jesper Busy, busy, busy. Level: 69  Posts: 2369/2390 EXP: 2856000 For next: 13743 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden. Since last post: 176 days Last activity: 79 days |
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Originally posted by BMF54123The new "proprietary features" are already known; it's mostly Avalon. I code for standards, which includes IE... if you're using about half of the second to most recent standard, that is. I don't particularly like it, but it doesn't mean I can't use the common ground to build a decent foundation, then make things nicer for competent, recent browsers. (I absolutely hate that they "won't be supporting" all of CSS2... but three months ago, IE7 would only be out for Longhorn and they didn't tout it at all. They're listening, and I can only hope that they do decide to change their mind on CSS2 as well, even if they claim to be listening to "enterprise IT manager professionals" (e.g. mostly ignorant dipshits) instead of developers.)Seriously, however... stop the flaming. We've been waiting for four years for an update to it. It's not going to be any worse than IE6, at any rate. I'm certainly not expecting Microsoft to do above average, or fill all the security holes, or not plug Avalon for all it's worth, or not act as if they just invented tabbed browsing. But I'm not being a cynical ass for the hell of it when we've all asked ourselves why they've stopped updating IE. |
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Tarale I'm not under the alfluence of incohol like some thinkle peop I am. It's just the drunker I sit here the longer I get.  Level: 73  Posts: 1673/2720 EXP: 3458036 For next: 27832 Since: 03-18-04 From: Adelaide, Australia Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Personally, I welcome an update to IE. I hope that it brings with it some security and usability updates. I hope that it adheres to standards better. I also hope that the alternative browsers continue to innovate and continue to win loyal users. I hope that this leads to competition, which in turn leads to further innovation. Plus, I also hope that an update to IE might stop the lusers I work for getting their computer spywared to hell and back. |
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