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Boom.dk Level: 31 Posts: 289/392 EXP: 168692 For next: 16671 Since: 07-18-04 From: Denmark Since last post: 10 days Last activity: 1 day |
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I just got an old pile of crap and put whatever spare hardware I had in it. I'm really amazed that I made everything work properly... You never know about those old machines. Here, take a look at the specs: Pentium II 233 MHz 96 MB SD RAM 2 USB ports (BIOS doesn't support USB) 3 hard disks at 1.20 GB, 3 GB and 4 GB 3.5" floppy 5.25" floppy 16x CD drive 10/100 MBit Ethernet SoundBlaster (not tested yet but I think it's a SB16) And some other weird crap This will result in many hours of playing old crappy dosgames and fiddling with whatever OS i decide to install on it. What do you think? Just DOS or Win3.11/95? |
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Karadur Fire Snake Level: 48 Posts: 919/1192 EXP: 786444 For next: 37099 Since: 11-02-04 From: Chatham, Ontario, Canada Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 15 hours |
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It has a 5.25'' floppy drive? The last time I saw one of those things was nearly 6 years ago As far as making the decision of whether to install either version of Windows or going with DOS, I'd say go with what you like the best I'd personally go with Windows 3.11/95, as it would be fun to see what those are like again, but using DOS would still be neat as it'd be a change from having a GUI to work with What sort of other weird stuff are you referring to? Obviously some old piece/pieces of hardware, but you've listed pretty much all the stuff I can think of Whatever you do on it, have fun |
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Kitten Yiffer Purple wand Furry moderator Vivent l'exp����¯�¿�½������©rience de signalisation d'amusement, ou bien ! Level: 135 Posts: 8551/11162 EXP: 28824106 For next: 510899 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 4 min. |
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I never seen 5.25 floppy drives, my 486 didn't have one and i'm quite surprised to see a 486 having one. Then I know that Win XP oddly have support for 5.25 floppies, i'm not kidding... I think you can have Win95 and Win 3.11 side by side if you do it right, that computer was released just before Win98 as Pentium II was around for a year when Windows 98 was released. or something. |
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neotransotaku Baby Mario 戻れたら、 誰も気が付く Level: 87 Posts: 2664/4016 EXP: 6220548 For next: 172226 Since: 03-15-04 From: Outside of Time/Space Since last post: 11 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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Windows 98 will run on a P2 since it ran on my non-MMX enabled Pentium 166 without much problems. As for 5.25 floppies, I have a bunch of them as well as two 5.25 drives sitting in my garage You should just probably install Windows 98 since you don't really have to install DOS soundblaster for sound... |
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Boom.dk Level: 31 Posts: 290/392 EXP: 168692 For next: 16671 Since: 07-18-04 From: Denmark Since last post: 10 days Last activity: 1 day |
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Yeah, it has a 5.25". I put it in there along with 3,5" floppy, cd drive, 2 hdds, 32 mb ram, the ethernet card and the SoundBlaster cause I had it layin' around. And I have about 200 discs for it so I thought it'd be time to use them. I never made the drive work on my xp machine... I'll prolly install 95 on it... I have gathered drivers numerous utilities for 3.11 though... As for the other stuff: Modem, SCSI, a gfx card and some weird onboard soundcard. (edited by Kieran on 03-15-05 03:13 PM) |
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Ran-chan Moldorm eek, when are they going to stop growing... Level: 143 Posts: 8317/12781 EXP: 35293588 For next: 538220 Since: 03-15-04 From: Nerima District, Tokyo - Japan Since last post: 12 hours Last activity: 12 hours |
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Old computers like this one are perfect for ROMS and such things. Well, not too advanced ones, of course. Scorched Earth didn |
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Tarale I'm not under the alfluence of incohol like some thinkle peop I am. It's just the drunker I sit here the longer I get. Level: 73 Posts: 1566/2720 EXP: 3458036 For next: 27832 Since: 03-18-04 From: Adelaide, Australia Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Nice. I have a purpose built P1 somewhere for old DOS games, but I can't tell you the specs off the top of my head. As for your threat about the computer eating my children, I do not have children.... but you can have my brother if you want. |
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FreeDOS Lava Lotus Wannabe-Mod :< Level: 59 Posts: 1245/1657 EXP: 1648646 For next: 24482 Since: 03-15-04 From: Seattle Since last post: 6 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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Well, if you want DOS games, then install MS-DOS 7.10 on it. Specifically that so you can use FAT32. The cluster sizes of FAT16 will eat you alive on those hard disks. This does comes with MPXPLAY, so you can play your MP3s too | |||
HyperLamer <||bass> and this was the soloution i thought of that was guarinteed to piss off the greatest amount of people Sesshomaru Tamaranian Level: 118 Posts: 3748/8210 EXP: 18171887 For next: 211027 Since: 03-15-04 From: Canada, w00t! LOL FAD Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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I've got a decent old computer around that I just fixed up the other day (needs a new HD though ). 32MB RAM (would be 96, but I stole some for this one ), P233, Win98, 5GB HD (2GB with Windows on it, not working though, and 3GB for whatever), and some sort of CD-ROM and floppy. Also has a modified (well, cardboard ) side panel with 3 fans in it, since the damn thing kept overheating. The CPU has some weird thing on it that prevents actually putting a fan on it. I'm planning to set it up downstairs with a fresh 98SE install for my mom to do her taxes and get on the Internet, maybe my brother could play games on it too. It's a really freakin' nice computer; would kick so much ass if it weren't so old. ATX and old-style power supply compatible, both types of RAM, 4 HD bays, room for two PSUs (why, I don't know) and 4 drive bays on the front. Lots of room inside too. | |||
BMF98567 BLACK HAS BUILT A SILLY DICE-MAZE! GO! Current list of BURNING FURY >8( recipients: - Yiffy Kitten (x2) - Xkeeper Level: 53 Posts: 691/1261 EXP: 1094149 For next: 62970 Since: 03-15-04 From: Blobaria Special Move: Rising Meatloaf Backhand Combo Since last post: 21 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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I didn't know there was a separate MS-DOS 7.10 release...or did somebody extract it from Win98 and make an installer? I have a pretty sweet DOS box that I recently fixed up (read: "removed the noisy old WD Caviar and made Windows stop crashing"). I also applied some Arctic Silver 5 to the heatsink and put it back on the right way, which may have fixed the crashing problem. Oops. Smokin' specs are as follows: - FIC VA-503+ motherboard - AMD K6-2 500 (100MHz faster than this computer... ) - 64MB CAS2 PC100 SDRAM - Maxtor hard drive (uh...3GB?) - 16x CD-ROM - Voodoo3 2000 PCI - Sound Blaster AWE64 Gold (sweeeeet!) - some cheapo PCI LAN card (hey, it does what it's supposed to) - Windows 98 SE - All in a crusty old AT case with original PSU! It runs old games pretty well, although sometimes I have to be a bit creative or tweak things to get the stubborn ones to go. Most games run under Win98 just fine, others need pure DOS, still others need pure DOS with EMS, and the really stubborn ones only run in a DOS box under Win98 (Alien Carnage gives me a runtime error in pure DOS... ). And I don't even want to talk about how long it took me to make the AWE64 accept a "perfect" IRQ 5/DMA 1/HDMA 5 configuration...ISA Plug-n-Pray is awful! |
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FreeDOS Lava Lotus Wannabe-Mod :< Level: 59 Posts: 1255/1657 EXP: 1648646 For next: 24482 Since: 03-15-04 From: Seattle Since last post: 6 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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The "extract" one... but not exactly. MS-DOS has never been integrated into Windows, just disguised to look like that (especially with Windows Me). It's the same MS-DOS from Windows 95 B through 98 SE. The install program seems like one of the old FreeDOS set up programs. The distribution was done by the China DOS Union, where copyright law virtually doesn't exist (it does, but isn't enforced like almost every other country). It has a few hacks in it, such as Long File Names without Windows (an attempt by Microsoft to make Windows look like it does the filesystem, even though DOS still did it) and allowing Windows 2.x and 3.x to be installed (Microsoft put in some code to not run Windows < 95; Windows 1.x runs with SETVER 3.30). Basically, it's MS-DOS with all the old utilities plus some (MPXPLAY, QuickViewer, Volkov Commander (Norton Commander clone based on Midnight Commander)). |
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BMF98567 BLACK HAS BUILT A SILLY DICE-MAZE! GO! Current list of BURNING FURY >8( recipients: - Yiffy Kitten (x2) - Xkeeper Level: 53 Posts: 697/1261 EXP: 1094149 For next: 62970 Since: 03-15-04 From: Blobaria Special Move: Rising Meatloaf Backhand Combo Since last post: 21 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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Ah, I see. Do you think there would be any problems copying the COMMAND.COM included in that package over my existing Win98 version, so I can get LFN support in "naked" DOS? Seems kinda silly and pointless that the official version doesn't do that. | |||
FreeDOS Lava Lotus Wannabe-Mod :< Level: 59 Posts: 1256/1657 EXP: 1648646 For next: 24482 Since: 03-15-04 From: Seattle Since last post: 6 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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It's more of a small driver that emulates the interrupt Windows calls for so MS-DOS will enable Long File Name support. You can install it over an existing Win9x installation, it works and Windows will still work. |
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CoughSyrupAbuser Goomba Level: 8 Posts: 21/23 EXP: 1680 For next: 507 Since: 03-15-05 From: Louisiana Since last post: 224 days Last activity: 229 days |
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It'd be a great machine to learn *nix on. I'd put the newest distro of FreeBSD on and fool around with it. You could try a live CD like Freesbie of Knoppix too. I use an old P133 with OpenBSD installed as a router. Works like a dream. |
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Colleen Administrator Level: 136 Posts: 7413/11302 EXP: 29369328 For next: 727587 Since: 03-15-04 From: LaSalle, Quebec, Canada Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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At first I thought those were the specs of your OLD computer, which would have made it pretty damn necessary to upgrade. You've got three hard disks on there so be creative. I like the trio idea myself - DOS/Win 3.1, Win 95 and some type of Linux distro. If you don't want to use Linux, then just use one drive for games/storage/etc. |
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iamhiro1112 Armos Level: 35 Posts: 277/487 EXP: 259927 For next: 20009 Since: 03-27-04 From: sd Since last post: 18 days Last activity: 7 days |
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I had to laugh when I saw the 2 usb ports. My computer gots six. | |||
HyperLamer <||bass> and this was the soloution i thought of that was guarinteed to piss off the greatest amount of people Sesshomaru Tamaranian Level: 118 Posts: 3927/8210 EXP: 18171887 For next: 211027 Since: 03-15-04 From: Canada, w00t! LOL FAD Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Mine only even has two, but I only use one anyway. If I need more, I can just get a hub. | |||
Ran-chan Moldorm eek, when are they going to stop growing... Level: 143 Posts: 8625/12781 EXP: 35293588 For next: 538220 Since: 03-15-04 From: Nerima District, Tokyo - Japan Since last post: 12 hours Last activity: 12 hours |
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I have too many USB ports. My computer has 8 of them. Two at the front. I use several of them as I can have two keyboards attached to it. |
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neotransotaku Baby Mario 戻れたら、 誰も気が付く Level: 87 Posts: 2818/4016 EXP: 6220548 For next: 172226 Since: 03-15-04 From: Outside of Time/Space Since last post: 11 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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my friend's work computer as 13 ports --why wouldn't anyone need 13 USB ports? can you fill up 13 USB ports? | |||
BMF98567 BLACK HAS BUILT A SILLY DICE-MAZE! GO! Current list of BURNING FURY >8( recipients: - Yiffy Kitten (x2) - Xkeeper Level: 53 Posts: 721/1261 EXP: 1094149 For next: 62970 Since: 03-15-04 From: Blobaria Special Move: Rising Meatloaf Backhand Combo Since last post: 21 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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I don't think a lot of people realize that USB devices eat up varying amounts of CPU cycles. Just because your computer could theoretically support up to 256(?) USB devices doesn't mean you could actually *use* all of them...you'd most likely have a molten puddle where your CPU used to be before you even got close. Me, I'd do fine with one port...that's all I ever use, and I hardly ever use the attached PSX gamepad adapter because it lags pretty bad compared to my old gameport Sidewinder. I guess I won't be getting a new soundcard anytime soon, since they don't come with gameports anymore. |
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