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infidelity

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Posted on 02-21-05 06:58 PM Link | Quote
Well, it's been awhile since I've been here, and seeing how everyone is kicking ass here, I want to continue my hack again. But I've got one serious problem which I'd like spoonfed to me.

The main problem is, why is it, when I rip a backround, let's say, a sky backround, it does not come up as the same color i ripped it from?

I know how to paste the snapshot in YY-CHR, and I know how to add the pieces from the 8x8 to the 16x16 tile editor. I know how to create my own custom backround in Lunar Magic. But I have no idea why the colors don't stay intact from the original backround. C'mon, I see all these ripped backrounds, and they're all identical from the rips they got, particulary the latest rip of SMAS backrounds I saw in a recent post here, it looks fantastic. I'm excellent at level designs, but I want the ability to have my vision of a backround to work as well.

Here's what I do to the T

1. I take a snapshot of a backround from a game using ZSNES
2. I edit it in Paint, for it to fit correctly for the 8x8 tile editor
3. I open YY-CHR, and select a ExGFX## I want to use
4. I then goto, "Paste Snapshot"
5. I then use the snapshot I created & edited in Paint, to place the pieces where I want them to be
6. I save the ExGFX##
6. I insert the ExGFX## into my rom
7. I goto the level I'd like to use this ExGFX## backround in
8. I open my Backround Editor
9. I open my 8x8 tile editor
10. I open my 16x16 tile editor
11. I go into the 16x16 tile editor and begin making the 4 blocks "100-101-110-111"

Now, once everything is finished, I begin to paste from the 16x16 tile editor, to the Backround Page Editor. And the colors are so shitty looking!!!!!!!!!!! I even try screwing around with the pallets, but I shouldn't have to, and when I do, it just looks awful.

Please, I beg you, all of you. I'd like to know from the masters here, there step by step ways, of correctly ripping backrounds, while keeping their original colors intact. Please, I know this much, which shows I'm not totally out of wack. Please. Thank You very much.
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Posted on 02-21-05 07:07 PM Link | Quote
The reason the backgrounds aren't in the correct color is because all you are inserting into the rom is the raw graphics files, which don't contain any palette information whatsoever. You need to put the palette in yourself, either by importing a savestate or entering the entries manually.
infidelity

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Posted on 02-21-05 07:10 PM Link | Quote
ok, how do i get the pallette? and i'm not sure how to import a gamesave into YY-CHR. If i do the import gamesave, will that do the trick? *crossing fingers*
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Posted on 02-21-05 07:12 PM Link | Quote
check out your PMs infidelity
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Posted on 02-21-05 07:13 PM Link | Quote
Well, you would need to import the savestate directly into Lunar Magic, because like I said, the ExGFX files will not contain palette information no matter what you do.
infidelity

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Posted on 02-21-05 07:24 PM Link | Quote
ahhh, ok

it looks alot better than what was coming on before. i'll have to screw around with that somemore. Thank You both, Juggling Joker & perter_ac!!!
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Posted on 02-21-05 07:27 PM Link | Quote
did you lose that PM too?
infidelity

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Posted on 02-21-05 07:31 PM Link | Quote
no, i sent you one as well

Also

what i'm doing, is I take a snapshot of the backround I want to use, and I also create a gamesave of the exact same thing. Is that how you import the pallette for that particular backround, or is there another way of obtaining the pallette? just curious, because I tried doing it again, and it wasn't the same at all. Thanks :-)


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