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General advice for people who play semicompetitively:

Every team should have two walls, two sweepers, and a hazer/pseudohazer. Each team should probably also have a rapid spinner, a Stealth Rock user, and a general status effect abuser, as these make life much easier. Other things which are not necessary for a general team, but which are really quite nice, are Toxic Spikes users, Knock Off users, team healers, revenge killers, Intimidators, weather stirrers, and Baton Passers.

You probably also want at least one ghost and either have a poison-type or have your rapid spinner be a steel-type. Ghosts are awesome, and Rapid Spin against a ghost will not remove the enemy's Spike-type effect. Poison-types, when switched in, remove Toxic Spikes, and it sucks a lot to switch in your Rapid Spinner to get rid of Toxic Spikes, as that will likely poison your Rapid Spinner, and most can't heal from that easily. The exception to this is if you have a team healer.


These pokemon are extremely worthwhile, and you should definitely keep them in mind when making a team.

Special walls	Physical walls	Mixed walls	Special sweepers	Physical sweepers	Mixed/Either sweepers
Blissey	Forretress	Bronzong	Azelf	Azumarill	Dragonite
Empoleon	Gliscor	Cresselia	Gengar	Garchomp	Electivire
Regice	Tangrowth	Dusknoir	Jolteon	Gyarados	Infernape
Snorlax	Hippowdon	Regice	Magmortar	Heracross	Lucario
	Skarmory	Spiritomb	Porygon-Z	Machamp	Salamence
	Swampert		Roserade	Medicham
	Weezing			Metagross
				Staraptor
				Weavile

True Hazers	Pseudohazers	Rapid Spinners	Stealth Rock users	Toxic Spikers
Vaporeon	Aggron	Donphan	Aggron	Drapion
Weezing	Donphan	Forretress	Blissey	Forretress
	Hariyama	Starmie	Donphan	Nidoqueen
	Skarmory		Forretress	Tentacruel
	Suicune		Gliscor
			Hippowdon
			Nidoqueen
			Regirock
			Rhyperior
			Skarmory
			Swampert

Stealth Rock users	Status Abusers (sleep)	Status Abusers (other)	Team healers
Drapion	Blissey	Crobat	Blissey
Gliscor	Breloom	Dragonite	Celebi
Hariyama	Gallade	Dusknoir	Miltank
Lickilicky	Gardevoir	Heatran
Tangrowth	Gengar	Jolteon
	Jynx	Magmortar
	Spiritomb	Magnezone
	Tangrowth	Raikou
		Togekiss
		Umbreon
		Weezing
		Zapdos

Revenge killers	Intimidators	Weather stirrers	Baton Passers
Absol	Gyarados	Abomasnow	Espeon
Crobat	Salamence	Hippowdon	Floatzel
Dugtrio	Staraptor	Tyranitar	Jolteon
Garchomp	Tauros		Ninjask
Weavile			Scizor
			Umbreon
			Vaporeon

Naturally, there's lots of other pokemon which can also serve these roles... These ones are just generally the best at it.

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