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Parse error: parse error, unexpected reply, expectingPosted by Ailurein this thread on post #60 ____________________ I dealt with it. |
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 Morton Koopa Feel the pain of those inferior beings...as you burn in hell! Level: 98 Posts: 377/2410 EXP: 9376833 Next: 277520 Since: 02-19-07 From: Sweden Last post: 4520 days Last view: 4501 days |
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Level: 52 Posts: 102/568 EXP: 1072915 Next: 10925 Since: 02-19-07 From: Here? Last post: 3929 days Last view: 3892 days |
Posted by Trapster That'd probably cause a paradox. After all, why kill him if he hasnt done anything? This ends with a paradox. And also, I can tell that WWII would eventually start anyway. For some reason, the date July 8th 1995 comes to mind when I read that... ...but there is a chance that you might destroy the universe/multiverse. Why? Because is WWII does happen, you might end up wanting to kill his... replacement. If you manage to go back and kill him too, then either another person will recreate the war, or there will be no war. Also, if you travel back, you might override your original self, restarting the whole thing. If you can, however, manage to get it all right, as in killing him and his subsequent replacers, then you will have done it all, but will have ended up making everything "perfect" and improbable. Of course, there is the chance that you will fail in the first place, which is very probable. After all, there might be some safeguards to keep history as it should be, but you will have probably inevitably changed something, which can matter, no matter how insignificant it seems. Also, if you do/did succeed, you would have cause a huge paradox. Also, if you were bored, and wanted to end the universe with a bang, you could kill yourself, which would cause a huge paradox, which will probably change everything, because you will have set off a huge trigger... or simply put everything back to normal, but made the world free of your time machine bearing wrath. Wow, that was a long post, and now I just remembered this funny movie involving a time machine that was japanese or chinese and involved a group of people trying to fix a remote with a time machine, realising it would cause a paradox, and ending up with a remote from the past or the future, I cant remember which, and was awesome. How did that evolve from a group of thoughts into a rant and then into an few sentences about a good movie? I dont know. I might not really care. This is probably my longest post. And I am currently making it longer. WHY, OH WHY CANT I STOP... err, maybe I should just click submit. *clic EDIT: A mistake... and why cant I leave this post alone! Its long enough already! *cli ____________________ Love your lawn. |
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-Go back to the 70s and buy assloads of stock from Nokia.
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Posted by sirhax0r I'm going to say this exactly once more, people. Paradoxes do NOT destroy the universe. They especially do not destroy the multiverse, since they can't even occur in a multiverse system. sirhax0r is correct that going back in time to preform a specific action will result in a paradox... IF there is, in fact, a single universe and it can be altered, and if you are successful. To use the example of killing baby Hitler... If you go back in time and kill baby Hitler the timeline is altered so that you no longer have a reason to go back in time and kill baby Hitler, so the timeline is altered and you go back in time to kill baby Hitler, etc, etc, ad infinitum. Eventually the minute changes along the way to add up in such a way that you are not able to successfully go back in time and kill baby Hitler. You might make the trip and fail, you might die before you can make the trip, the invention of the time machine may be delayed until after you die, you might not be born in the first place, etc. On the other hand, if there is only the one universe and it cannot be altered ("predestined"), then the result of any trip to the past would already be present before the trip is made. Thus, since Hitler did not die as a baby, you would be incapable of killing baby Hitler. You might go back in time with that intention, but since we know it did not happen, you will be unsuccessful. You might, however, be able to travel back to April 30th, 1945, and somehow force Hitler to simultaneously bite a cyanide capsule and shoot himself in the head, but you'd have to be very sneaky with however you plan to preform that action, since while history reports that that is how he died, there's no record of any unknown person forcing him to do so. If it's a multiverse, you can go do whatever the hell you want. It won't change anything for us, or the millions of people that died because of Hitler. It'll just make an additional universe where those changes have occurred. |
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Level: 52 Posts: 103/568 EXP: 1072915 Next: 10925 Since: 02-19-07 From: Here? Last post: 3929 days Last view: 3892 days |
Posted by JDavis Ahem. A multiverse may be everything in one, but a paradox is what a multiverse originates from, or in other terms, a paradox creates a multiverse to stop ONE universe from blowing up. Paradoxes are not all consuming, just seemingly so. After all, nothing is certain, but, that makes uncertainty certain. Nothing is permanent, not even uncertainty, but that in turn means something is certain. However, if uncertainty is certain, and always certain, then its established that it is permanent. So, permanent uncertainty, certain unpermanency. These facts make up a paradox or two, and these facts have probably been estsblished since *infinity*. Okay, I should go to sleep now.  ____________________ Love your lawn. |
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Koopa Level: 26 Posts: 89/110 EXP: 91434 Next: 10841 Since: 02-19-07 From: Oklahomaland Last post: 5936 days Last view: 4646 days |
Yes, you should go to sleep, because you're just spouting gibberish.
A multiverse is not all in one. It is all in infinitely many variations. It does not "originate" from anything. If it is how things are, it is how things have always been. From the theoretical "beginning of time", infinitely many universes splitting infinitely many times for each and every minute possible outcome of each and every minute event. Paradoxes do not exist in a multiverse system, as any trip to the past, just like any other action, just creates more branches of causality... more universes. A temporal paradox is only possible if there is, in fact, not a multiverse, but only a single universe which can be altered. The paradox occurs when the person goes back in time and preforms an action which alters the universe in such a way that would negate his ability to have preformed the action. Since he cannot preform the action, the universe is not altered is that manner, and he is thus able to preform the action. The universe is therefore stuck in a seemingly infinite loop of switching between the "original" series of events and the "altered" series of events. However, there are uncountably many events throughout the universe between the point in time where the traveler arrives in the past and the point in time that they may or may not have left from. Because of this, the universe is not switching between two possible causalities, but two sets of infinite possible causalities... Until, that is, it hits a possible causality of the "original" set where the time traveler did not preform the action that caused the paradox in the first place (most likely through inability, but possibly by choice), or one of the second set where some other events allowed the time traveler, or some other time traveler, to preform the action. In other words, the paradox causes the universe to become unstable, but a stable causality will be the end result. |
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