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OoBurns
Posted on 02-23-07 12:54 AM Link | Quote | ID: 4987


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Posted by Keitaro
I think the whole alternate tuning thing would throw me off ;x Trumpet is a Bb instrument, right? Yeah, I have a hard enough time remembering what I'm supposed to transpose when I'm WRITING a trumpet part, let alone playing off one

That's why I play the baritone. It's concert pitch, so what you see is what you get.

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Posted by spiroth10
my guitar is hard as heck to tune, and hard to play. I have callouses, but the strings are so taught that it causes bruises on my fingertips every time I play.


I was told that you can get this fixed at a guitar shop. I think someone referred to it as "action". It sounds like you have a high action ...thingie....



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Keitaro
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Certain strings will be harder to play than others, though some strings are designed for different playing styles. Figure the strings that feel looser and are easier to push and move around are more ideal for pulling off bends and pulls, where as a more taught string will have a different, I guess more "firm" sound. It really depends on your preference and what sound you want, as well as what you are comfortable with.

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Posted by Tarale
Posted by spiroth10
my guitar is hard as heck to tune, and hard to play. I have callouses, but the strings are so taught [sic] that it causes bruises on my fingertips every time I play.


I was told that you can get this fixed at a guitar shop. I think someone referred to it as "action". It sounds like you have a high action ...thingie....



One of my celli has this predicament, but it's good practice. When I play on my good cello, it's a lot easier and I can play with greater skill because of the handicap I set. It doesn't hurt to use heavy pizzicato because I practice on the cello with taut strings. I offset the tuning of my celli so I can practice tuning, so that I only need to fine tune with a tuner, violin, or fork.
Can one do vibrato on a guitar?

Keitaro
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Sure you can, if you have a whamy bar. Thats about as close as you'll get, and that'd be for an electric guitar only. Whammy bars are pretty sick though, I must say. You can do some pretty complex and interesting things when you combine one with a compressor and distortion...oh I should probably mention they are typically used in rock and metal but

As far as tuning goes, I never have a huge problem with it myself. I have what I believe is called perfect pitch, and apparently that makes me capable of not having to use the aid of electronic tuners among other things. Its also a good way for people to kill time when they play a series of notes to try and stump me, only to have me identify each of them spot on

spiroth10
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Posted by Tarale
Posted by spiroth10
my guitar is hard as heck to tune, and hard to play. I have callouses, but the strings are so taught that it causes bruises on my fingertips every time I play.


I was told that you can get this fixed at a guitar shop. I think someone referred to it as "action". It sounds like you have a high action ...thingie....




yeah... my guitar isn't adjustable. I got it for $20 brand new. do the math.

when you have a decent/good guitar, it can be adjusted. I've watched it done before. but not all of them can -- let me rephrase that, not $20 guitars.

like I said, I'm getting a new one soon (in 2-5 months. I need cash!)

anyway, I can play wild-thing (Troggs version) now. Its rather easy. Download a tab -- it's a great song for beginners, using only 3 basic tabs (A,E, and D). The Jimi hendrix version is... a bit harder.

Keitaro
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Well you know if you get new strings you can adjust to your heart's desire. The ones that came with it, being a 20 dollar guitar, probably aren't that great ;x you can get some decent strings for as little as 5 or 6 bucks these days. Might just be all you need.

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I *did* get new strings, but you see, it's faults in the design of the guitar itself that cause the problems.

when you get guitar strings... all you do is string the guitar. The strings themselves (Unless bent?) provide no customization.

sure there are different varieties of strings (thick, light, heavy, etc...) but aside from that, things like the distance the strings are from the frets are unchangeable. I find that on my guitar, when compared to better quality models, has the strings a greater distance from the frets.

I have light strings on it now.

also, I *could* loosen the strings, and then the guitar wouldn't be in tune at all.

not to mention cheap guitars don't generally stay in tune, and they are more difficult to tune exactly, regardless how good your ear is. They also tend to eventually fall apart, and don't have the same sound quality.

trust me, after playing around with similar guitars to mine, some guitars that are fairly decent, and several that are WAY out of my price range, I can tell the difference.

and its not just me. All my friends also have the same complaints about my guitar.

If only you could see it yourself Keitaro... Too bad I have no camera.

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Posted on 02-23-07 08:24 AM Link | Quote | ID: 5535


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I think I can take your word for it as I would figure a 20 dollar guitar probably isn't really on par in build with even some of the cheaper guitars on the spectrum (90-100 dollar range) so you know, I would imagine the neck to be alittle out of whack. They have adjustability in all of that in most higher priced models I believe, but yeah. You know, so long as it plays. The thing that matters about any instrument is whether or not the player is comfortable with it, not who spends the most money on it

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Hm... well, maybe you could try to save up for a guitar that suits you better? I dunno, I just think it would be a pity for you to not play guitar if you're good with it just cause that guitar is tricky.

My guitar seems to be okay so far, but then I've not tried to play it for any real extended periods of time yet. I still can't play much on it either.

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I have been pondering for a good while about getting a guitar. I would like to go electric, but as I live in a student dorm where sound travels easily, that's probably not the best idea?

Acoustic would be alright, though most of the music I listen to uses electric guitars, and is probably also quite complex to learn how to play. I really have no idea, I have barely touched a guitar.

I don't know if I'll pick it up now, but I'll be damned if I don't do it sometime..

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You can play electric guitars at low volumes you know really won't disturb anyone unless your amp goes past 11 (....that was a shameless reference and anyone who gets it wins several cookies)

Electic guitar music isn't so much "harder" than acoustic is, both are particular technical in their own ways and there's going to be simple and challenging stuff for each style. I suggest just going with what you like and after fooling around, what you feel comfortable doing. You can still play acoustic music on an electric guitar, so its kinda a win-win in that case

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"Why don't you just make ten be the top number and make that a little louder?"
"... These go to eleven."

Warpriest, if you're looking for a small amp, my first recommendation would be the Marshall MG15-DFX. It's a 15-watt solid state amp so you don't have to turn the volume down to 0.5 to keep it quiet, and I haven't specifically used it, but if it's anything like the MG30 I got as my first amp, it's got a very nice sound for the price and size. It's got a CD in and headphone out too, so you can play along with songs and not make any outside sound.

Even the 30-watt one makes a good practice amp, although I didn't know that when I bought it. Just don't get the MG10, because it doesn't have proper EQ - just midrange, no bass and treble - and you'll find yourself wanting that if you don't have it.
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