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Xkeeper
Posted on 04-11-07 02:48 AM Link | Quote | ID: 25668


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Whatever happened to just using "--"?

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Tarale
Posted on 04-11-07 02:48 AM (rev. 2 of 04-11-07 02:50 AM) Link | Quote | ID: 25669


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Posted by setz
because they're too long and un-needed. monday - friday works fine, or monday through friday works even better.

they could've used that ascii spot for something more useful like a penis or a turtle


When writing recreationally then sure, an em dash doesn't matter. There's no point fussing over an em dash for posting on a forum, for example

But if you are writing professionally—for the web or for a job application or for print, particularly if it is for some kind of important presentation—you are better to use em dashes than hyphens

Posted by Xkeeper
Whatever happened to just using "--"?


That came into place as a way of typists indicating an em dash when your character set wouldn't produce one.

If it was in a manuscript, when it went to print a -- would be changed to a — by the printers.

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Posted on 04-11-07 03:06 AM Link | Quote | ID: 25673


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Do you have a copy of Strunk and White's The Elements of Style, by any chance, Tarale?

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Posted on 04-11-07 03:28 AM Link | Quote | ID: 25676


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Posted by Yoru
Do you have a copy of Strunk and White's The Elements of Style, by any chance, Tarale?

No, and I'm not particularly good with grammar. Writing is not my forté

I tend to read more about typography and then make my poor writing at least look pretty

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Posted on 04-11-07 08:12 AM Link | Quote | ID: 25776


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yeah... those all looked the same to me... but maybe because I'm on my Ubuntu box and it might not have the fonts?

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Posted by Kasdarack
yeah... those all looked the same to me... but maybe because I'm on my Ubuntu box and it might not have the fonts?


It won't have the fonts.

But I'm surprised it doesn't have Georgia. It's supposed to be a web standard font -- so you can get it I think pretty easily anyway

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Posted on 04-11-07 09:07 AM Link | Quote | ID: 25781


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Call me crazy, but I don't like serifed fonts at all. I prefer Tahoma and Verdana.

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Call me crazy, but I write with serifs.

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Posted by Tarale

It won't have the fonts.

But I'm surprised it doesn't have Georgia. It's supposed to be a web standard font -- so you can get it I think pretty easily anyway


Georgia and Verdana (among others) were designed by Microsoft, which may be why they tend to be missing from Linux distributions. Which sucks, as websites tend to look really bad with whatever default fint the system decided to substitute in.

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Posted by Tarale
Posted by Yoru
Do you have a copy of Strunk and White's The Elements of Style, by any chance, Tarale?

No, and I'm not particularly good with grammar. Writing is not my forté

I tend to read more about typography and then make my poor writing at least look pretty

You did that on purpose, didn't you?

Kles
Posted on 04-11-07 07:05 PM Link | Quote | ID: 25833


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Oh, Tarale. For the record, it is indeed just "forte" - it's pronounced "fort" and not "fort-ay". Fort-ay is nonstandard.

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Posted on 04-11-07 08:02 PM Link | Quote | ID: 25842

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Really? I've always pronounced it fort-ay as well. I like to write as well as Tarale, always going overboard on my spacing and such. Which font I should use. But then again I am writing another book.

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Forte depends on the context. I'm pretty sure it's "fort" when it's something someone likes, but "fort-ay" when it's a strength/loudness.

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The one time I heard "forte" as in strength said out loud, it was "fort-ay", but he might have mispronounced it. I know the musical term is "fort-ay".

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Posted on 04-12-07 01:05 AM Link | Quote | ID: 25892


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And the Mega Man character is FORUTE in katakana.

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Posted by Tarale

It won't have the fonts.

But I'm surprised it doesn't have Georgia. It's supposed to be a web standard font -- so you can get it I think pretty easily anyway


Georgia and Verdana (among others) were designed by Microsoft, which may be why they tend to be missing from Linux distributions. Which sucks, as websites tend to look really bad with whatever default fint the system decided to substitute in.


I know that, they were both designed by Matthew Carter too, and are both specialist screen fonts. I <3 the pair of them.

But what I was saying is that as Core Web Fonts -- there are free ways of getting them.

As for forte / Forté .. well, I like Forté. I guess it may have something to do with how my music teacher pronounced it / it was written on sheet music.

EDIT: Smart Package of Core Fonts -- for all your free Core Web Font RPM package needs.

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I always thought it was fort-ay, for both the musical definition and the strength one. On the subject of fonts: I like Arial, Georgia, etc. I despise Times New Roman, but I need to use it, my English teachers have always required it, and that doesn't look like it'll change any time soon.

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Perfectionism: Spending hours getting everything pixel-perfect for some personal/low-traffic site nobody cares about.

Passion: Spending hours getting everything pixel-perfect on what is to be your portfolio; a page you might show to someone as an example of your design skills, or even just one someone might stumble across and ask you to design something for them.

Crazy: Spending hours trying to get everything pixel-perfect in IE.

This thread title reminds me of an old joke: Kinky is using a feather, perverted is using the whole chicken.

Heian
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Whoa! Fellow font maniacs! This is passion and absolutely not craziness!

I'm a big stickler for nice-looking fonts and (consequently?) have always love the Macintosh and its generous font offerings. Their old standby Chicago is the best use of 12-dots-per-inch that I've ever seen. The only thing the old Mac lacked was descending numbers, which look great. Why did people stop using them for three decades?

Yoru, MS Mincho is nice enough (why Microsoft's version in particular?) but Hiragino Mincho has a bit more style for my taste. And Chinese/Japanese fonts should always be monospaced; the characters were designed to fit into squares. I hate seeing Japanese documents with proportional fonts, and Microsoft made P(roportional) Gothic the default in Japanese Excel, the philistines. ^^;

Others I can't live without are Futura (the Baseball Encyclopedia was set in this), Eurostile (always looks modern, except for the extra-wide version), and Sylfaen. I wrote my master's thesis in Palatino with Gill Sans chapter headings.

I also have terrible vision and hate hard-coded tiny fonts. The first thing i do when I open my browser is bump up the font size three times. Then I sit five feet from the screen so I dont't get irradiated! ^^;

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Ms. Taryn, why do you complain about this?
If it hasn't caused you immense pain, I'd be glad for you for being picky. At least you can force yourself some discipline, as in actually doing GOOD work.

Maybe some comic relief will help?

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