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spiroth10
Posted on 04-07-07 05:13 AM Link | Quote | ID: 24256


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OK, I have it all setup and running great, and firefox is equipped with torbutton.

I know it works because I was sent to a german google (no more googling for me I guess... Always preferred yahoo anyways...)

anyway, lets just say I know my ISP is/was watching what was going in/out of my network... How much do these utilities block them from seeing. I want them as blind to my actions as possible.

privacy is a right in the US (where I live, despite the IP, it's a proxy now form denmark or germany or something...) And I intend to stay 100% private...

are images/files I download also kept hidden from prying eyes?

can my ISP still see all of this?

trust me, the staff are incompetent and won't be able to decrypt the data, I'm just making sure they're only getting encrypted info.

I want my downlaods/surfing to be anonymous. With torbutton and firefox, I should be good to go, right?

Darkdata
Posted on 04-07-07 05:15 AM Link | Quote | ID: 24257


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Oh, about google...

Try http://www.google.ca/ncr.

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spiroth10
Posted on 04-07-07 05:30 AM Link | Quote | ID: 24262


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that worked nicely darkdata, I feel like an idiot for not thinking of it myself.

but that still leaves me with the question of am I being watched? I have data that I intend to hide. What set off my ISP was relatively minor.

music and photoshop and... others... aren't cheap if you get my drift...

I want those eyes off me. I guess the only way to check is to go after some... non-legal data and see who gets notified/if I get caught?

BTW, my isp is roadrunner. I doubt they can do much if my data really is encrypted and proxied...


I guess to ask in one sweet sentence:

Will my isp still see exactly what I'm downloading?

HyperHacker
Posted on 04-07-07 07:12 AM Link | Quote | ID: 24279

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Download perfectly legal files named metallica.mp3 and the like and see if they mention it.

Xeon
Posted on 04-07-07 11:38 AM Link | Quote | ID: 24299


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Did you pirate too many movies?

spiroth10
Posted on 04-07-07 06:55 PM (rev. 2 of 04-07-07 06:58 PM) Link | Quote | ID: 24338


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actually I'm not reall[y into pirating movies, but I have more than enough roms/mp3s to get fined over a billion dollars (or in my case, probably a life in jail, as I'll never afford the fines)

actually, the whole thing started because someone who spent the night decided to watch porn for 10 hours while I was sleeping/not paying attention. See, for some reason the cable company got alerted (probably because that is well over a legal surplus -- and both me and the friend who did it are underage -- I swear I didn't do it though -- 10 hours! Jesus H. Christ thats a lot -- and thats just how long it took him to download...)

I don't really give much weight to that, but I frequent a lot of warez/keygen sites, download MP3s and roms and programs like photoshop. I downloaded a movie once, but the video didn't work at all and it was in german.

Now I don't do these things all the time, but I certainly don't want to be caught with them.

I'm thinking I should just test the waters the easy way and code an app that opens up firefoxand searches for porn on google. That way, if my parents get a call again, I know they're still watching. Although I'd probably get in a mess of trouble this time...

the main resdon this is my concern is because many of the warez sites out there also have porn pics/movies/links on them. Hey, I have my sources that don't give me viruses or spyware, I intend to keep using them.

when my friend did it, it wasn't fun explaining things, especially SOME of that stuff... ehh...

anyway how anonymous do these tools make me?

I also just think I have the right to some privacy. Just because my friend did something weired, doesn't mean I should lose my privacy privileges...

Xeon
Posted on 04-07-07 09:01 PM Link | Quote | ID: 24396


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Posted by spiroth10
actually I'm not reall[y into pirating movies, but I have more than enough roms/mp3s to get fined over a billion dollars (or in my case, probably a life in jail, as I'll never afford the fines)

actually, the whole thing started because someone who spent the night decided to watch porn for 10 hours while I was sleeping/not paying attention. See, for some reason the cable company got alerted (probably because that is well over a legal surplus -- and both me and the friend who did it are underage -- I swear I didn't do it though -- 10 hours! Jesus H. Christ thats a lot -- and thats just how long it took him to download...)

I don't really give much weight to that, but I frequent a lot of warez/keygen sites, download MP3s and roms and programs like photoshop. I downloaded a movie once, but the video didn't work at all and it was in german.

Now I don't do these things all the time, but I certainly don't want to be caught with them.

I'm thinking I should just test the waters the easy way and code an app that opens up firefoxand searches for porn on google. That way, if my parents get a call again, I know they're still watching. Although I'd probably get in a mess of trouble this time...

the main resdon this is my concern is because many of the warez sites out there also have porn pics/movies/links on them. Hey, I have my sources that don't give me viruses or spyware, I intend to keep using them.

when my friend did it, it wasn't fun explaining things, especially SOME of that stuff... ehh...

anyway how anonymous do these tools make me?

I also just think I have the right to some privacy. Just because my friend did something weired, doesn't mean I should lose my privacy privileges...


You broke the first rule of doing anything illegal, never confirm or deny doing anything illegal to anyone but a lawyer.

And there is no illegal amount of porn, you can look at as much porn as you possibly want and not have to worry about anything (in the united states). The only time you would get in trouble is if you where looking at underage porn.

On a side note, any friend who sleeps over just to look at porn for 10 hours is not a very good friend.

spiroth10
Posted on 04-07-07 09:20 PM (rev. 2 of 04-07-07 09:30 PM) Link | Quote | ID: 24404


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I did so with tor enabled, and privoxy. And just so you know my name is James Weinerschneider and I live in southeast Holland. I am of German and Dutch descent and run a simple dutch bakery.

yeah... we'll go with that...

besides the fact that it could all be speculation. I could be lying and you'd never know. It's actually perfectly legal for me to state that, and what I said cannot be used as evidence.

It's the same law that protects celebrities who admit to underage drinking and other crimes in the pages of magazines/other interviews long after the fact.

As of right now there is no proof saying that I am lying or telling the truth, so this post wouldn't stand as conclusive evidence in a court of law.

Remember kiddies, I can admit to breaking down the London Bridge, but that doesn't mean I actually did, or that the bridge is even broken down. Hell, from the statement, there may not even BE a London Bridge at all...

Loopholes, loopholes.

I may not have all my info right (been awhile since I read up on laws...) but this should be true to some extent. besides the fact that they'd still need more evidence. If someone has that evidence, they wouldn't even need the support of this post anyway, so I really don't care.

GuyPerfect
Posted on 04-08-07 02:48 AM Link | Quote | ID: 24492


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Funny thing about the law is that what you DO is only part of it. The other part is WHY, and juries commonly convict suspects based on whether they felt their motive was enough to make them guilty. If you done wrong, it's illegal.

Skreeny
Posted on 04-16-07 08:14 AM Link | Quote | ID: 27209


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Posted by Xeon
And there is no illegal amount of porn, you can look at as much porn as you possibly want and not have to worry about anything (in the united states).
I was assuming he meant he hit a download cap, where the ISP starts to look at you funny for getting so much in one day/night/etc. I know mine supposedly used to start checking in on what you're doing when you hit a certain point.

Kailieann
Posted on 04-16-07 01:14 PM Link | Quote | ID: 27227


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My ISP doesn't have a download cap.
But it does have an upload cap.

I've gotten about five warning e-mails over the last seven years.

Kernal
Posted on 04-16-07 01:35 PM Link | Quote | ID: 27233

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There are download caps? I figured those'd be as obsolete as per-minute charges by now.

leileilol
Posted on 04-17-07 12:31 AM Link | Quote | ID: 27418


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Yep, there still are. If you're using Comcast then they intentionally hide it to jack your account away and then offer commercial $10,000/mo packages as the only option.

Metal_Man88
Posted on 04-27-07 07:51 PM Link | Quote | ID: 30719


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ATTYahoo for the win.

Also no amount of proxies can make them not notice you using bandwidth. :p

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