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 Panser Level: 42 Posts: 44/348 EXP: 512957 Next: 8405 Since: 03-26-07 Last post: 4163 days Last view: 2114 days |
Don't you just hate it when a major game series appears in your country, they skip an entry, than go on releasing the rest without effort to fix continuity or such there?
I've never played them, but I think one Romance of the Three Kingdoms out of like 13 remains Japanese-only. Mega Man 6 was on two consoles in Japan, four for the US, yet to this day is unreleased in Europe. (7 and 8 did indeed come out there, but they're extremely scarce in quantity as nearly all PAL Mega Man titles are) Final Fantasy III is perhaps most well-known for this. Contrary to popular belief, no other rerelease of any kind had appeared on shelves in Japan. Not even a "greatest hits"-style packaging of the original cartridge. Although from what little I saw of the DS version, it doesn't bear much resemblance to its NES cousin. ____________________  |
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 Flurry Level: 37 Posts: 193/251 EXP: 315098 Next: 23155 Since: 02-19-07 From: Mirabel, Québec, Canada Last post: 6182 days Last view: 1815 days |
Flurry #&postrank& FF3 DS is a full 3D remake with some important changes but it still plays close to the original and kept most of the story/music/world/monsters/etc. the same ... but a really good example of discontinuity in that series is FF3 US -> FF7, which probably left a lot of people wondering until the FF4 and FF5 were ported to PlayStation 
Then there's Dragon Warrior that went with 1-4 on NES, then 7 on PlayStation (5-6 on SNES were Japan only), then it became Dragon Quest (like in Japan) for 8 ... There was Bomberman GB 1 to 3 in Japan, which (in order) became Wario Blast, Bomberman GB and unreleased here  ____________________ |
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Level: 34 Posts: 73/204 EXP: 230858 Next: 22793 Since: 02-20-07 Last post: 5995 days Last view: 4448 days |
Japan got Mother 1 2 and 3. Japan even got Mother 1+2. We (USA) only got Mother 2, AKA Earthbound. We didn't get Mother because the SNES was out already so it never got released. (Even though it was ready to be.) We got Mother 2 as Earthbound and because of the fact that it didn't sell well*... We didn't get Mother 3 despite a 30,000 signature petition to Nintendo. This really bugs me because Mother 3 is the best RPG I have ever played... And I couldn't understand a thing! (I did use a translation guide though...)
(*They advertised it with "This game stinks!") |
| Xeogred |
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 Porcupo Level: 40 Posts: 193/305 EXP: 422066 Next: 19243 Since: 02-19-07 From: Temple of Time Last post: 6120 days Last view: 6120 days |
Also, the US never got an SNES version of Rockman & Forte, which at times I've seen mentioned as Megaman 9 (which would be more odd since 8 was on the PSX).
Thankfully we got a perfect version for the GBA. That game was great. |
| Katelyn |
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beh Level: 86 Posts: 1229/1816 EXP: 6131115 Next: 10992 Since: 02-21-07 Last post: 6148 days Last view: 6148 days |
The USA and Europe didn't get the original Japanese version of SMB2 because:
a) it was deemed to hard for American players, and b) it was too similar to the original SMB So, the rest of the world got a version of Doki Doki Panic instead, which was then released as Super Mario Bros. USA in Japan around 1992. And the USA didn't see SMB2J until Super Mario All-Stars was released for Super Nintendo, in 1993. |
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 Cape Luigi Level: 131 Posts: 273/4792 EXP: 26235243 Next: 189377 Since: 03-15-07 Last post: 3737 days Last view: 3649 days |
Also there was Fire Emblem, which didn't come to the US until FE7 (thats 6 whole games that skipped the US and stayed JP-only). ____________________ |
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 Mole Level: 42 Posts: 223/351 EXP: 521042 Next: 320 Since: 02-19-07 From: Massachusetts Last post: 5968 days Last view: 5404 days |
Our Pokemon Blue was Japan's Pokemon Green. The Japanese Pokemon Blue was a special edition version only available through a magazine, and it was different from our Blue (mostly in terms of available Pokemon). For some reason, Nintendo decided to change the Japanese Green in to Blue for us, meaning we never got the Japanese Blue. When they changed Green to Blue, they also removed Green's alternate graphic set...meaning Gold and Silver weren't the first Pokemon games to use alternate Pokemon sprites between versions (this trend eventualy died with the GBA games, probably due to the sheer amount of sprites that would have needed to be done).
Another thing, not something we didn't get, but when the original SaGa games were released here, they were dubbed Final Fantasy Legend. Lord knows why. The games were also republished in the late 90s by Sunsoft, which is a little weird (I guess Square cared that little about the games ;x) They really aught to remake those games, after all, if they were able to deck out Final Fantasy Adventure (Sword of Mana) with a full blown story, they're bound to be able to pull something off. |
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 Micro-Goomba Level: 10 Posts: 3/12 EXP: 3293 Next: 1121 Since: 02-21-07 From: England Last post: 6222 days Last view: 5882 days |
Also, as far as i know 'Final Fantasy Tactics' still hasn't hit the shelves in Europe. I've managed to play it but it seriosuly needs adding to my collection. |
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Gone Level: 88 Posts: 1220/1881 EXP: 6463470 Next: 187194 Since: 02-20-07 Last post: 6149 days Last view: 6139 days |
Posted by Katelyn Which sucks. SMB2J and DDP are much better games than "Hacked Version Of DDP With Mario Graphics"...I would have killed to have been able to play SMB2J when we only had a NES (which was until 1999). A PC game series, Leisure Suit Larry (no, I haven't played it), didn't have a 4. The series just skipped rather mysteriously from 3 to 5. |
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 Red Cheep-cheep Level: 34 Posts: 147/217 EXP: 253286 Next: 365 Since: 02-19-07 From: Beyond Last post: 5639 days Last view: 5639 days |
Posted by Keitaro Because games with Final Fantasy in the title sell better than games without Final Fantasy in the title. Hence why FF7-12 are called Final Fantasy even though they have nothing in common with FF1-6 except Chocobos and Cid. |
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 Buzzy Beetle Level: 44 Posts: 45/388 EXP: 604778 Next: 6507 Since: 03-08-07 Last post: 5407 days Last view: 5406 days |
that's implying that FF7-12 are final fantasy games in name only, which is kinda bullshit imo.  |
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Porcupo Level: 40 Posts: 197/305 EXP: 422066 Next: 19243 Since: 02-19-07 From: Temple of Time Last post: 6120 days Last view: 6120 days |
Posted by KernalPosted by Katelyn So is there more differences between SMB2us and DDP than just graphics? As for the games, I've always been a fan of both versions actually. |
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 Ninji Level: 36 Posts: 142/234 EXP: 283635 Next: 24475 Since: 02-19-07 From: Norway Last post: 2494 days Last view: 1434 days |
Posted by Xeogred A couple. You can't change your character during gameplay, but you have a separate save file per character, so you can attempt to beat the entire game four times, once per character. Also, you can't use the B button to run, and the boss Clawgrip doesn't exist in the game, you fight Mouser a third time instead. Posted by Kernal Play it, it's awesome. As for the reason 4 was skipped, series creator Al Lowe explains it himself on his website. |
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 Cheep-cheep Level: 32 Posts: 160/185 EXP: 199338 Next: 7104 Since: 02-22-07 From: Ruston, Louisiana Last post: 6205 days Last view: 6052 days |
Posted by Mystery Gourmet but... FF6-12 ARE Final Fantasy in name (and a certain music track) only, with the possible exception of 9 =P |
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Cheep-cheep Level: 32 Posts: 58/180 EXP: 191346 Next: 15096 Since: 02-19-07 Last post: 5967 days Last view: 5959 days |
Posted by Mystery GourmetI'm only going to argue with you about FFXI. Which I have not played, but games in one series are expected to be mostly similar in overall mechanics, and MMORPGs are very very different from console RPGs. |
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 Spike fuck~ Level: 58 Posts: 259/722 EXP: 1537205 Next: 40341 Since: 02-19-07 From: Pittsburgh, PA Last post: 5293 days Last view: 2580 days |
typically RPG series are connected by at least one of a few things
staff plot mechanics/system theme. I'd say every FF game has at least one of those in common with its predacessor ____________________ |
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Happy Hour! Level: 81 Posts: 432/1556 EXP: 4850276 Next: 142573 Since: 03-25-07 Last post: 2678 days Last view: 2676 days |
I wouldn't even consider FF to be a series. Not in the general meaning of the word anyways. There is never a continuation, except FFX-2 which needs to burn in a pit along with copies of E.T. Now Megaman on the other hand is an actual series. So is Biohazard for the most part. ____________________ 
What FF7: Advent Children Character Are You? |
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Micro-Goomba Level: 10 Posts: 7/12 EXP: 3293 Next: 1121 Since: 02-21-07 From: England Last post: 6222 days Last view: 5882 days |
Posted by Koitenshin +∞ Most Final Fantasies do have a link with each other not always in storyline but in the gameplay. You do also see links between the games sometimes when people will talk about characters from other games. Also its generally created by the same group of people. Some Final Fantasies should burn in hell you are correct and some are just given the Final Fantasy name to sell more games but I still say Final Fantasy is a series just because its a series of RPG's created by mostly the same people. |
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Gone Level: 88 Posts: 1245/1881 EXP: 6463470 Next: 187194 Since: 02-20-07 Last post: 6149 days Last view: 6139 days |
I think it's funny how the Final Fantasy series still numbers every game in sequence. Most videogame series stop numbering entirely after a while (like Mario and Zelda), or start the numbering over with the next sub-series (such as Mega Man). *imagines a game in 2100 called Final Fantasy LXXVIII* |
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Porcupo Level: 40 Posts: 212/309 EXP: 430401 Next: 10908 Since: 02-19-07 From: LaSalle, Quebec, Canada Last post: 6125 days Last view: 6101 days |
Dragon Quest will probably keep numbering games until the end of eternity too. I guess the argument is that a highly-respected series can get away with that, but when you come to Mega Man... You have to draw the line somewhere otherwise we'd be at MM XXIII or something now. |
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