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Xeon
Posted on 03-29-07 02:22 PM Link | Quote | ID: 20730


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I swear, energy efficient products really suck. We recently got a new air conditioner last year, and the stupid thing can't even cool are damn house like the old one could. This one also tends to run 24/7 because of it's lack of being able to cool our house. Moral of the story? New energy efficient air conditioner uses up more energy then the old one and doesn't cool the house that well.

Then there is these energy efficient toilets, they made them smaller then the old toilets to conserve water...but all it really does is cause you to flush more because if you don't you will clog the toilet with only the smallest amount of paper and shit. Fortunately we have the original energy inefficient toilets in our house....but I've used them at other peoples houses and they suck.

These companies evidently just don't get it...

Kles
Posted on 03-29-07 04:42 PM Link | Quote | ID: 20748


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They wind up using more energy because you have to use them more to get the desired result, and usually, the tilt goes to the other product. Fuck'em.

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Energy efficient toilet!? What other energy does a toilet use than your own energy when you push the button/pull the handle to flush it?

Ok, so it supposedly conserves water. Meh, I don't know, isn't the whole idea of conserving water kind of ridiculous anyway? But then again, it might be something else if you actually live in a desert, or some place low on water. My entire life I have lived along the Norwegian coast, and we're not excactly lacking in water.. or rain. So yeah, just ignore everything I said about the toilet and conserving water.

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The only energy saving product I can say I have heard of, and used, would be the energy saving shower head. You know, the one that lets out less water per minute than a regular shower head (So that you'll use less electric power to heat water). And I think it works quite well, once you gets used to it. It gives you the water you need, and it's not like you'll spend longer time in the shower because of it...

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Wow this thread is full of loss.

My apartment has an EE AC and it worked like a gem last summer. It is probable that you guys didn't do your research and bought a crappy model. It is also probable that 95% of the entire consumer base of any given demographic are woefully under-prepared for making large purchases like that.

As for the toilets - I've never had a single problem with low flow toilets. It all depends on the width of the opening, if you catch my drift. If it is poorly designed, then yeah, probably your fault for not looking at alternatives.

Good day.

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Posted by Ziff
Wow this thread is full of loss.

My apartment has an EE AC and it worked like a gem last summer. It is probable that you guys didn't do your research and bought a crappy model. It is also probable that 95% of the entire consumer base of any given demographic are woefully under-prepared for making large purchases like that.

As for the toilets - I've never had a single problem with low flow toilets. It all depends on the width of the opening, if you catch my drift. If it is poorly designed, then yeah, probably your fault for not looking at alternatives.

Good day.


Well we had an air conditioning expert with 30 years of experience come in and suggest the air conditioner we should get. He was also family, so we thought he would pick a winner..... guess not. This new air conditioner also sounds like a jet airplane engine it's so incredibly loud.

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Just because someone is family, doesn't mean they're the best in their field.

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Xeon
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Posted by Alastor
Just because someone is family, doesn't mean they're the best in their field.


I still would think 30 years of experience would make someone an expert of there trade.

Ziff
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30 years can also mean that they are stuck in a status quo and have lost track of newer technologies.

Xeon
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Posted by Ziff
30 years can also mean that they are stuck in a status quo and have lost track of newer technologies.


A compelling argument... I sorta do think this guy was a retard.

JrShrooboid
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Instead of making energy efficient products, we should try and make efficient enery productors. That would work.

Ziff
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Posted by JrShrooboid
Instead of making energy efficient products, we should try and make efficient enery productors. That would work.


Productors? You mean producers or production?

Energy efficiency is kind of constrained by technological and chemical reality.

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Posted on 03-30-07 04:09 AM (rev. 2 of 03-30-07 04:09 AM) Link | Quote | ID: 20943


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Posted by Ziff
Productors? You mean producers or production?



Yes, I ment producers.

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Posted on 03-30-07 07:06 AM Link | Quote | ID: 20990


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For a year or so, my mom was "low energy light bulb" crazy. The rest of the family (me included) always kept making fun of them and so on, finally resulting in her stopping buying them.

What's so bad about these low energy light bulbs? Because when you turn them on, the room gets darker.

It seems like the creator of the light bulb found the exact amount of light, bright enough to turn off the eye's dark vision mode, but dark enough to fail to illuminate the room enough for one to see anything. In other words, you see less than before you turned on the light, making the room feel darker than before.

We call these low energy light bulbs "black holes".

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Posted on 03-30-07 10:24 AM Link | Quote | ID: 21025


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Gah, I f!@#$ HATE those compact fluorescent bulbs everyone has boners for now. They buzz and flicker, smell like burning plastic when they burn out (usually years before their claimed life expectancy), cost a fortune, and bathe the room in a putrid yellow light. I think they're also worse for the environment than ordinary bulbs, considering how many different materials go into their manufacture--there's actually a small printed circuit board inside each one, with a few capacitors and resistors and a small IC or two!

Give me a good ol' 60-watt "natural light" incandescent bulb any day...

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Posted on 03-30-07 10:35 AM (rev. 3 of 03-30-07 10:38 AM) Link | Quote | ID: 21026


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Ya gotta love the feeling of having clogged up your neighbour's toilet.

But yeah, although my mother's annoyingly resourceful, she never really got into the whole energy-efficient thing, but it's something I can see happening.

Kles
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Posted by BMF54123
Gah, I f!@#$ HATE those compact fluorescent bulbs everyone has boners for now. They buzz and flicker, smell like burning plastic when they burn out (usually years before their claimed life expectancy), cost a fortune, and bathe the room in a putrid yellow light. I think they're also worse for the environment than ordinary bulbs, considering how many different materials go into their manufacture--there's actually a small printed circuit board inside each one, with a few capacitors and resistors and a small IC or two!

Give me a good ol' 60-watt "natural light" incandescent bulb any day...


Uh.

I've had the same fluorescent bulb in my main lamp for about two years, and I have no experienced a single one of these problems.

You must have a shitty manufacturer.

Kernal
Posted on 03-30-07 02:04 PM Link | Quote | ID: 21052

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I always use fluorescent lights and so do my parents, and neither of us has ever had problems. They use only about 1/5 as much electricity, so they reduce your electric bill a little (if you're the one who has to pay for it).

Kles
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For the record, the fluorescent light bulbs light my room more than natural light bulbs.

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60-watt is for losers, I need me some dat 100-watt.

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