Posted by Nick "Convict Conditioning" by Paul Wade I thoroughly endorse this endorsement. My only qualm is that despite what he says about pacing yourself and starting from the beginning at each exercise regardless of your present strength or skill level, I would counter that's only necessary if you really are just starting strength training for the first time. ____________________ Design © 2009 Stark Once for the Super Dave TV show I was the stuntman that fell down the entire wtc stairwell. ~ jargon