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SF - The Dark Warrior
Posted on 01-18-12 12:44 PM Link | Quote | ID: 149588


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Last view: 343 days 		Today, many websites are blacking out against SOPA and PIPA. SMWCentral, Wikipedia, Reddit, and others to name a few are joining the protest. What are your attitudes about those two bills?

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Posted on 01-18-12 01:40 PM (rev. 2 of 01-18-12 01:41 PM) Link | Quote | ID: 149589


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SOPA has already been killed anyway, from what I gathered.

As far as the other thing is concerned - I consider it counterproductive to expend any sort of effort on battling the bill of the day when it's just a matter of formality for the industry to push a new and slightly reworded one in a few months' time; if they keep trying, they are bound to succeed earlier or later. Now, if people could get off their indoctrinated rear ends and mount some sort of movement to criminalise lobbyism as the disgrace to democracy it is, that would be a different story...

Protip for Wikipedia: It's not actually blanked. They just display:noned all the content DIVs and put an overlay in place.

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To be honest, part of me was excited to see what would actually happen if it passed in its initial form. I have a feeling it would have brought a lot of "second internet" ideas to the forefront, and perhaps even given them the push they need to start.

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The tweets about it are a somewhat hilarious; you can feel all the oozing rage from kids who know of no other way of doing school projects but to ctrl-c ctrl-v from Wikipedia. Perhaps it will also be an educational experience to them. 10/10, Jimmy.

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Posted on 01-18-12 09:13 PM (rev. 3 of 01-18-12 09:15 PM) Link | Quote | ID: 149597


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Last view: 343 days 		Eh, had to convice a friend of mine to have his board offline to join the strike against SOPA and PIPA. Think going "blackout", which is going offline is the best solution?

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We're not really large enough to make any sort of impact. Besides, considering our audience, it would be basically preaching to the choir.

Really, I think that with Wikipedia and Google, whatever there was to achieve has been achieved anyway.

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Posted on 01-18-12 09:18 PM (rev. 3 of 01-18-12 09:20 PM) Link | Quote | ID: 149599


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Last view: 343 days 		I anticipate those bills will be killed soon on the 24 of January by the US Senate due to the efforts of the masses. If it does get killed, ROM Hacking is saved for now and some sites wont be closed down for no apperant reason due to the vaugeness of the bill.

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Posted on 01-18-12 09:32 PM (rev. 2 of 01-18-12 10:25 PM) Link | Quote | ID: 149600


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Yeah, and either the next ones with provisions going even further will be brought, or they will implement the same thing in smaller steps while patting each other on the back for their generous compromising.

edit: A good article summing up something very close to my viewpoints on the issue.

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Posted by blackhole89
The tweets about it are a somewhat hilarious; you can feel all the oozing rage from kids who know of no other way of doing school projects but to ctrl-c ctrl-v from Wikipedia. Perhaps it will also be an educational experience to them. 10/10, Jimmy.

This perfectly illustrates what I like about when "desperate measures" are taken on the internet.

Though it's a bit worrying at the same time. It indicates that Wikipedia could probably push any legislation it wants simply by threatening to cut off access to their site.

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Posted on 01-19-12 01:56 PM (rev. 2 of 01-19-12 01:58 PM) Link | Quote | ID: 149606


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Posted by Xeruss
Posted by blackhole89
The tweets about it are a somewhat hilarious; you can feel all the oozing rage from kids who know of no other way of doing school projects but to ctrl-c ctrl-v from Wikipedia. Perhaps it will also be an educational experience to them. 10/10, Jimmy.

This perfectly illustrates what I like about when "desperate measures" are taken on the internet.

Though it's a bit worrying at the same time. It indicates that Wikipedia could probably push any legislation it wants simply by threatening to cut off access to their site.


Really? I saw it more as most people are aggravated by short term nuisances and don't care about the big picture at all.

they should close down for a full week.

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Last view: 2766 days 		Maybe next time...cause they will keep trying. Several sponsors decided to stop supporting the act supposedly because of the huge net protest and the millions upon millions of signatures, people calling their representatives, or maybe they just realized how fucking dumb they were believing in this at all.

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In a world where "makes sense" is not accepted by many governments solely due to that fact that it actually /does/ "make sense", then I really have no faith left in humanity. I kind of understand why those religious people latch on to their happiness, because that's really all that's left.

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Somewhat related
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/01/why-the-feds-smashed-megaupload.ars

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Posted by NightKev
Somewhat related
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/01/why-the-feds-smashed-megaupload.ars
Oh wow, I was completely unaware that this happened. Team World Police strikes again.

I hope Megaupload's logs are reasonably sparse.

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Posted by blackhole89
Posted by NightKev
Somewhat related
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/01/why-the-feds-smashed-megaupload.ars
Oh wow, I was completely unaware that this happened. Team World Police strikes again.

I hope Megaupload's logs are reasonably sparse.

I'm quite sure they are.

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