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Bloodstar
Posted on 02-20-12 03:32 AM Link | Quote | ID: 150128


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Posted by KP9000
Yeah, there's an ass ton of them. I would kill them from IRC, but I don't have permissions to use the bot. But I actually think they're humans registering and posting shit, not bots.


Yeah, that's the worst thing. No questions/captchas will prevent that. (I'd imagine at least they're too huge a pain to ban once in a while unless you're getting FLOODED with them...)

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stag019
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Posted by Bloodstar
I'd post some more Weezer lyrics here but yeah.

I love Weezer.

Posted by Liliana
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The only thing I want to do with this board is drive a wooden stake into it already.

Why? What benefit would you gain from doing that? Isn't there anything more useful you could do?

That's like asking what do you accomplish from stopping to beat a dead horse? Nothing, you fool, but what do you accomplish while beating it? Also nothing. The benefit from closing the board is that it's no longer necessary to maintain. We don't have to waste portions of our lives (for example KP9000) deleting spambots, or posting posts that are rarely going to be seen. We keep an archive up so that people who are looking for content (particularly ROM hacking) can find it, and then put up a cool looking front page explaining the story behind the board, and a link to alternative places (I'll discuss this below).

People often say: "but where will everyone (or alternatively just the ROM hackers) go?" The answer to this is simple. Both Jul and Romhacking.net cater to general ROM hacking. Dislike Romhacking.net paying too much attention to translations? Fix that. Be the person who discusses ROM hacking a lot. Get followers who do the same. Additionally, people liked this board due to just general overall discussion. They have Jul. Not to mention, there are bunch of other AB2/ABXD/whathaveyou boards that I don't really know about because I sorta stopped caring about Acmlm spinoffs after the Jul split. But since I know a lot of people have this "Xkeeper vendetta", I've read that some of these places actually have "I hate Xkeeper" groups or something like that. Yeah, people too immature to like Jul but are too attached to this specific branch of the internet would fit right in there. Or something. And the final last resort is this brand spanking new thing called OUTSIDE! I understand people often feel as if they'll melt at first, but honestly it's not bad once you get used to it. I promise.

In conclusion, by examining the above post by Liliana, I have proven that by removing the unnecessary resources needed to maintain a significantly dead message board, while still leaving an archive version of it up as a reference to both ROM hackers and internet historians alike, there is everything to gain, and nothing to lose.

— Summer Glau



Mog54123
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Posted by Liliana
I love how you took your time to brainwash the Jul community, though!

[23:42:48] <@Taryn> oh yeah, it's because you love starting drama
[23:42:50] <@Lili-chan> when did I do that?
[23:42:57] <@Lili-chan> also, stop fucking whining
[23:43:17] <@Taryn> stop fucking picking fights and starting drama at every opportunity


I remember the war in Yugoslavia very well. Millions of people died due to brainwashing. Those people were doing the exact same thing that you are doing at the moment; brainwashing innocent civilians to start a massacre on others you don't like. The only thing that's missing is actual murder, but knowing you, I bet you'll start doing that too.


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Posted by Liliana
I love how you took your time to brainwash the Jul community, though!

[23:42:48] <@Taryn> oh yeah, it's because you love starting drama
[23:42:50] <@Lili-chan> when did I do that?
[23:42:57] <@Lili-chan> also, stop fucking whining
[23:43:17] <@Taryn> stop fucking picking fights and starting drama at every opportunity



Now, we present Liliana's amazing intellect, as demonstrated by this space program!


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Posted by Liliana
I remember the war in Yugoslavia very well. Millions of people died due to brainwashing. Those people were doing the exact same thing that you are doing at the moment; brainwashing innocent civilians to start a massacre on others you don't like. The only thing that's missing is actual murder, but knowing you, I bet you'll start doing that too.


I take great offense to the insinuation that I am unable to think for myself, simply because I have come to a similar opinion as others.

Please, take your fucking meds. Or find a doctor and get a prescription. You fucking need it.

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Posted by stag019
That's like asking what do you accomplish from stopping to beat a dead horse? Nothing, you fool, but what do you accomplish while beating it? Also nothing. The benefit from closing the board is that it's no longer necessary to maintain. We don't have to waste portions of our lives (for example KP9000) deleting spambots, or posting posts that are rarely going to be seen.
"We" is bad wording since you're not staff here. If you don't have any faith in this board, that's fine, I'm not forcing anyone to stay.

If it gets to a point where we close down the board, then yes, we will of course leave an archive. But right now that's not what we are aiming for.
Posted by stag019
People often say: "but where will everyone (or alternatively just the ROM hackers) go?" The answer to this is simple. Both Jul and Romhacking.net cater to general ROM hacking. Dislike Romhacking.net paying too much attention to translations? Fix that. Be the person who discusses ROM hacking a lot. Get followers who do the same. Additionally, people liked this board due to just general overall discussion. They have Jul. Not to mention, there are bunch of other AB2/ABXD/whathaveyou boards that I don't really know about because I sorta stopped caring about Acmlm spinoffs after the Jul split. But since I know a lot of people have this "Xkeeper vendetta", I've read that some of these places actually have "I hate Xkeeper" groups or something like that. Yeah, people too immature to like Jul but are too attached to this specific branch of the internet would fit right in there.
Excuse me while I chock on my food here.

Okay, first of all, not everyone here hates Jul, in fact, there are several users who go on both, me being one of them, KP is another I can mention I suppose. Furthermore, proclaiming that Jul is a good place for ROMhacking is not exactly a wise option. Sure, Jul does have a ROMhacking section, but it's not very active. And before you start saying that I should post in it to bring activity, you should know, I am one of the users who do post in that section.

And while ROMhacking.net is nice for many things, Acmlm's board (before the split) was always known for the great community and hacking. It was always (in my opinion) easier to get help and feedback here rather than RH.net.

And as much as I have gone around hearing about it, I have seen very little of this "Xkeeper vendetta" everyone keeps bringing up. I have seen a few users (read: under 10) that have been like that, that but they have mostly been dipshits you don't want to be with anyway. Sure, I have seen a few that just don't want to be around Xk, but they have been mature about it AFAIK.
Posted by stag019
And the final last resort is this brand spanking new thing called OUTSIDE! I understand people often feel as if they'll melt at first, but honestly it's not bad once you get used to it. I promise.
Well, this was kinda pointless to add, don't you think? :/
Posted by stag019

In conclusion, by examining the above post by Liliana, I have proven that by removing the unnecessary resources needed to maintain a significantly dead message board, while still leaving an archive version of it up as a reference to both ROM hackers and internet historians alike, there is everything to gain, and nothing to lose.

— Summer Glau


Since when was Liliana a valid point from which to judge this whole board?

The reason why I have not banned both sides of the drama lama yet is due to me being lazy and the fact that it did get a few not so active users to post valid suggestions in this thread. :/

Also, we are working on things right now to try and make this message board "not dead."

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Bloodstar
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Posted by Green-Kirby
Furthermore, proclaiming that Jul is a good place for ROMhacking is not exactly a wise option. Sure, Jul does have a ROMhacking section, but it's not very active. And before you start saying that I should post in it to bring activity, you should know, I am one of the users who do post in that section.


But... all that can really be said is that if people start posting on it, it won't be inactive anymore. I don't see how moving hackers there should b2 collapse is a very bad idea. (Of course, we'd want archives of this board's forum... just like we have of Acmlm's I1-3. Don't want to lose information, after all.)

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Liliana
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Given people like MM88, posting ROM Hacking on Jul may not be the wisest idea.

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Pointing fingers at other people must solve all of our problems nowadays :/

Sukasa
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Hey, it works for the U.N.

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I don't think it's a bad idea bloodstar, never said it was. It's just that today, as it is now, Jul does not have the ROMhacking that Acmlm board 2 had. Furthermore, neither does board 2. Much hacking activity went away in the board split, which is kinda sad.

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Posted by Electrometer Prime
Pointing fingers at other people must solve all of our problems nowadays :/



Heey, Eppy posted On Board2? Thats something rare.

But anyways, why is the big deal about ROMhacking now? It wasn't ever that much of a problem before....

[/curious]

stag019
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Posted by Green-Kirby
Posted by stag019
That's like asking what do you accomplish from stopping to beat a dead horse? Nothing, you fool, but what do you accomplish while beating it? Also nothing. The benefit from closing the board is that it's no longer necessary to maintain. We don't have to waste portions of our lives (for example KP9000) deleting spambots, or posting posts that are rarely going to be seen.
"We" is bad wording since you're not staff here. If you don't have any faith in this board, that's fine, I'm not forcing anyone to stay.

If it gets to a point where we close down the board, then yes, we will of course leave an archive. But right now that's not what we are aiming for.

I added emphasis in my quote, please reread. I only gave two example, but what I'm trying to get at is that staff aren't the only ones that put forth effort for this board, and that by closing it you'd save the people who come here and make posts that are rarely seen by anyone. etc.


It's what I'm aiming for. And it's what everyone else should be aiming for, seeing as how the board is long past it's prime, and past the point of no return.

Posted by Green-Kirby
Okay, first of all, not everyone here hates Jul, in fact, there are several users who go on both, me being one of them, KP is another I can mention I suppose. Furthermore, proclaiming that Jul is a good place for ROMhacking is not exactly a wise option. Sure, Jul does have a ROMhacking section, but it's not very active. And before you start saying that I should post in it to bring activity, you should know, I am one of the users who do post in that section.

And while ROMhacking.net is nice for many things, Acmlm's board (before the split) was always known for the great community and hacking. It was always (in my opinion) easier to get help and feedback here rather than RH.net.

I understand that. Also though if a large percentage of the board is a repeat then why have two boards to split posts between?

As for ROM hacking, it's good that you're trying to contribute to it. Keep at it. I'll keep at it. Make everyone you know who's into ROM hacking keep at it. Eventually it'll pick up.

Posted by Green-Kirby
Well, this was kinda pointless to add, don't you think? :/

No, not at all. A lot of people forget it exists.

Posted by Green-Kirby
Since when was Liliana a valid point from which to judge this whole board?

The reason why I have not banned both sides of the drama lama yet is due to me being lazy and the fact that it did get a few not so active users to post valid suggestions in this thread. :/

Also, we are working on things right now to try and make this message board "not dead."


Who said I judged the whole board based on that thing? He shared a common opinion (don't close the board) and I was responding to his arguments with my own.

Lazy. Good staff. Proves how well this whole message board thingy is working.

Like what?

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Posted by Bloodstar
Posted by Green-Kirby
Furthermore, proclaiming that Jul is a good place for ROMhacking is not exactly a wise option. Sure, Jul does have a ROMhacking section, but it's not very active. And before you start saying that I should post in it to bring activity, you should know, I am one of the users who do post in that section.


But... all that can really be said is that if people start posting on it, it won't be inactive anymore. I don't see how moving hackers there should b2 collapse is a very bad idea. (Of course, we'd want archives of this board's forum... just like we have of Acmlm's I1-3. Don't want to lose information, after all.)
Sorry if I'm somewhat adding oil to the already flammable climate here, but I don't see how herding the hackers to a walled garden like Jul is a particularly responsible course of action to take, or will generally benefit anyone other than the present residents of Jul at all. They might have even less activity as far as ROM hacking goes, but at least Kafuka makes a decent effort to seem inviting to outsiders.

Posted by "Liliana"
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Please cut it out. It should be pretty clear that any sort of continuation to your somewhat comedically over-the-top vendetta against them will only result in this thread being further inundated with people rushing to its defense and/or descending upon you, further derailing this thread.

Posted by "stag019"
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Thanks for your opinion, but I find it somewhat difficult to believe that you are genuinely concerned about the poor chaps who have to post here. I think it would be unfair to not give the new staff a chance at taking this board in some direction they see fit.

6% battery remaining, will look into replying in a more detailed fashion later.

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Mog54123
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If you're wondering where our talented hackers went, you're probably looking in the wrong places.

Some of us have just found better things to do than sit around making SMB3 hacks of dubious quality.

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Posted by blackhole89
a walled garden like Jul

burrito89 cuz you seem to talk outta your ass


Jul has an even lower barrier to entry than this board does (no captcha or 5 minute wait before the board considers you registered), and the wiki is similar (it doesn't actually require valid email). So that's interesting.

Compared to that, this place is like a TSA security patdown line. :rolleye:

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Posted by Mog54123
If you're wondering where our talented hackers went, you're probably looking in the wrong places.

Some of us have just found better things to do than sit around making SMB3 hacks of dubious quality.


Maybe, but maybe some or all users have use for acmlm and jul when it comes to rom hacking.

Its not only smb3 and smas that is "finally" being hacked on and reworked from the core itself.
Dont forget the many hackers are on different levels and think on a different skill than the other.
What I see in the rom hacking forum in the department is amazing for now.
Although they do elaborate and exchange ideas at times in the month that is what its best for.

From what I see at Jul, people are more likely to be quick at finishing hacking certain stuff when givin enough resources and man power to pull everything together.

Leave Jul alone if you dont enjoy them too much and they will do the same for you like wise.
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