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 Koopa Level: 25 Posts: 13/103 EXP: 82690 Next: 6930 Since: 03-19-07 Last post: 5448 days Last view: 5423 days |
Yeah... has anyone else ever had this type of problem before? You mind your own business, doing... whatever it is that you do to pass time, and then all of a sudden the screen goes black, computer light (busy signal thing...) on the e-tower flashes red for twenty seconds before turning back on, everything you were working on lost.
This problem keeps persisting all the fucking time, and it is really pissing me off. I tried to do anything possible to stop it from occuring (virus scan with five different virus scanners, have three different firewalls working, delete trojan horse viruses I find, ect.), yet it happens. And I never know when it will happen. It always occures at random times; one point it's constant, other times it could be a week, or a month, to even a day in between, or a whole years. What the hell can I do to prevent this from ever happening again? |
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Gone Level: 88 Posts: 979/1881 EXP: 6467240 Next: 183424 Since: 02-20-07 Last post: 6156 days Last view: 6147 days |
My experience is that having multiple firewalls activated at the same time can make the system unstable. |
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Koopa Level: 25 Posts: 14/103 EXP: 82690 Next: 6930 Since: 03-19-07 Last post: 5448 days Last view: 5423 days |
The first firewall is the Windows Firewall, the second is McAfee's Firewall, and the third is the Wireless Firewall; also McAfee.
You can tell what my first virus scanner is, the second is Stinger (Rebecca's virus scanner), third is Norton Anti Virus (recommended by my father...), fourth is AVG Anti-Virus, and the fifth is AOL's Virus Scanner (McAfee is the primary scanner I keep active, the others turned off unless I need them). Trust me, it's not the firewall programs, or the PC settings. The system is not unstable, but still my unknow, problems keeps persisting. Last month, I asked my Computer Electronics Instructor Red to come over to my home to check out the computer. He wasn't able to find anything wrong with it except deleting three trojan horse viri that were embedded in some files that were critical for the PCs health... I have checked through every file, last night when it occured on me at four in the morning, done everything I can to find this problem. I don't want to upgrade to Windows Vista because I heard that it has a load of problems and bugs in the programming... And I don't feel like saving my shit (though I do have a complete backup of mine and Rebecca's files) and getting a new computer...  |
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... Level: 73 Posts: 78/1220 EXP: 3369430 Next: 116438 Since: 03-25-07 From: no Last post: 6101 days Last view: 6085 days |
Windows Firewall is a joke and McAfee sucks. Having multiple antivirus installed is never a good thing, even if only one is running at a time.
This could also be a video driver problem. Does sound stop too? |
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beh Level: 86 Posts: 976/1816 EXP: 6134692 Next: 7415 Since: 02-21-07 Last post: 6156 days Last view: 6156 days |
Try switching to Linux or going down to Windows 2000 Pro  |
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Gone Level: 88 Posts: 993/1881 EXP: 6467240 Next: 183424 Since: 02-20-07 Last post: 6156 days Last view: 6147 days |
Linux is less of a target and is somewhat more secure than Windows, so anti-virus software usually isn't needed. Of course, installing anything on Linux (with a few exceptions such as Firefox) is a royal pain... |
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Koopa Level: 25 Posts: 15/103 EXP: 82690 Next: 6930 Since: 03-19-07 Last post: 5448 days Last view: 5423 days |
Well it happened to me again... CONSTANTLY TURNING OFF ON ME (squeezed my hand too tigghtly and shattered the glass I had in my hand; yes it's bandaged up)! I finally am able to get it to work again, and half my files is erased. My wife has Linux on her laptop so I don't feel like having it on BOTH computers.
HH, Windows Vista is a joke as well! That crap is the new upgrade from XP and Service Pack 2, and those whom gotten tge new upgrade either through store bought or online installation gotten a hell of alot of bugs. The video driver isn't the problem, sound works fine though oddly my CD Drive ( E: ) now responds (for the past three years it stopped responding, but now it does).  Red couldn't find anything wrong with it when he came over last month to do a complete check-thru.
The files that are now "gone" are my virus scanners (which means reinstallation T.T), half my files I have saved like my fanfiction, my Super Mario Universe III hack and its entire folder, my past hacks and other hacks made by other SMW fans... and countless other crap I have no time to list here...  |
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Gone Level: 88 Posts: 1003/1881 EXP: 6467240 Next: 183424 Since: 02-20-07 Last post: 6156 days Last view: 6147 days |
You can dual-boot, i.e., have Windows and Linux on the same machine, if you can get your hands on a Partition Magic-type program.
And nobody likes Vista. Except my dad, he's crazy for anything Microsoft. |
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Koopa Level: 25 Posts: 16/103 EXP: 82690 Next: 6930 Since: 03-19-07 Last post: 5448 days Last view: 5423 days |
I did that when the peice of shit turned off on me for a tenth time before my glass shattering event, didn't help much.
EDIT: NOW my sound is screwed up. |
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Level: 48 Posts: 156/458 EXP: 777104 Next: 46439 Since: 02-19-07 From: The Void Last post: 3040 days Last view: 3040 days |
Woah, woah. Ignore the software. Youse hardware is b0rked.
That's a Power Supply issue to me. It's causin' the whole computer to die at random times, and that may also be zapping your harddrive. Do something about it before your whole computer explodes! |
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 Red Cheep-cheep Level: 34 Posts: 138/217 EXP: 253434 Next: 217 Since: 02-19-07 From: Beyond Last post: 5647 days Last view: 5647 days |
Posted by Kernal You're using the wrong distro. Installing anything on a decent linux build is as painful as selecting the program from a list and clicking 'ok'. Because that's all it takes. |
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Gone Level: 88 Posts: 1019/1881 EXP: 6467240 Next: 183424 Since: 02-20-07 Last post: 6156 days Last view: 6147 days |
Yeah, most of my Linux experience is from a version of Red Hat so ancient that dinosaurs probably used it, or at least cavemen. Every time I try to install anything, I got "Failed dependencies". Then when I tried to install the dependency, I got "Failed dependeicnes" again, and so on. |
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 Red Paratroopa Level: 31 Posts: 54/174 EXP: 181716 Next: 3647 Since: 03-09-07 Last post: 6029 days Last view: 3232 days |
You sound like your having Power Supply, or overheating issues with the processor.
1. I would definitely open your PC up and try blowing all the dust out with canned air. You should always clean the dust out of your PC every 6th months at least. 2. Also make sure that all the fans are running properly, leave the side of the case off to observe. 3. Also check for any rapid grinding, scraping, or clicking coming from your hard drives, it could be the S.M.A.R.T. (Self-Monitoring, Analysis and Reporting Technology) info triggering the motherboard to shut off. You should be able to get your S.M.A.R.T info with this program (Western Digital Diagnostic Program). It's from western digital but it should work for other brand drives. I think I remember it working with a Maxtor. Just look at the thresholds and see if anything is not within its normal threshold. 4. Check the motherboard for blown capacitors. A simple guide can be found Here. Basically blown capacitors look kinda bloated on the top, or they have fluid leaking out the bottom. 5. Check to make sure you don't have some faulty RAM. Download the ISO for this program (memtest86) from Here. I would personally let it run 5 to 10 passes, and if you see any errors, then your ram is probably faulty. That's about all the troubleshooting I can think of for right now, just run down that list and try everything until the problems stop. |
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Koopa Level: 25 Posts: 17/103 EXP: 82690 Next: 6930 Since: 03-19-07 Last post: 5448 days Last view: 5423 days |
Well fuck X (Xeon), you were right... it is a power supply problem I am having. I looked through the list you put up and went through it all. I don't have any faulty RAM, but it IS the fan. It's not running at its maximum speed which could be the problem fo rmy PC dying at random odd times.
I'm on Beck's laptop since I have the PC at Neo Computers downtown. My friend Zero was able to get his friend to give my PC a complete check and any faulty parts noticed he can replace. Of course, Zero's friend owes me for when he was running late and had to do his shift... Well atleast it helps me well. Glad I made a complete emergency back-up just incase before I sent it off to Neo Computers for a PC Check-up. |
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beh Level: 86 Posts: 1014/1816 EXP: 6134692 Next: 7415 Since: 02-21-07 Last post: 6156 days Last view: 6156 days |
Yeah, replace the power supply, and maybe get a higher-performance one this time. |
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... Level: 73 Posts: 103/1220 EXP: 3369430 Next: 116438 Since: 03-25-07 From: no Last post: 6101 days Last view: 6085 days |
Posted by Forte.EXEI didn't mention Vista, but I agree. 
PSU failure will cause all kinds of bizarre problems, such as rebooting as soon as Windows is finished loading, or certain components failing at random or not turning on. It helps to have a program like Motherboard Monitor to keep an eye on voltages, temperatures, and fan speeds at all times. |
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beh Level: 86 Posts: 1020/1816 EXP: 6134692 Next: 7415 Since: 02-21-07 Last post: 6156 days Last view: 6156 days |
They really should include a warning light on computers, similar to the "Check Engine Light" on cars |
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... Level: 73 Posts: 104/1220 EXP: 3369430 Next: 116438 Since: 03-25-07 From: no Last post: 6101 days Last view: 6085 days |
Yes, I find it a bit odd that they'll shut down or reboot if they overheat, and some have a program that will warn you if the fans aren't working, but they never include a simple circuit that will light up an LED if the PSU isn't working correctly. I should consider making one and putting it in my computer. |
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Koopa Level: 25 Posts: 18/103 EXP: 82690 Next: 6930 Since: 03-19-07 Last post: 5448 days Last view: 5423 days |
Posted by Katelyn It's going ot be awhile before I can get myself a new computer (and hand the old one to my asshole sister whom got my mom in trouble for not going to school; she's sixteen and STILL a freshman at West High). All wages and payments either my mother gets from her work or Beck when she works at Radio Shack automatically gets drawn out of the bank accounts and sent to Intengrity Insurance... short story: drive Felicia to school, get into car wreck by other driver who did not see me at all, months later and a date at court and trip to hospital via heart attack, its my fault. But yeah, I'll get me a high performance PC... and Windows Vista once those lazy bastards at Microsoft decode out all those bugs and hidden trojan viruses. |
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... Level: 73 Posts: 109/1220 EXP: 3369430 Next: 116438 Since: 03-25-07 From: no Last post: 6101 days Last view: 6085 days |
If you must get Vista, wait for at least SP1. Windows XP was pretty lousy until SP1, and still not that great until SP2. |
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