Well to draw on personal experience as well, I (not to toot my own horn here unnecessarily here) am the healthiest person I know. I practice calisthenics and study nutrition as hobbies. The last time I had a sickness was during the 'Swine Flu' epidemic almost two years ago. And, I eat cheese or drink milk on an almost daily basis. While it may defer from person to person, you noted yourself that you used to be able to handle dairy 'like any normal person.' I would feel comfortable saying that health issues arising strictly from consumption of dairy are more-than-likely the exception, rather than the rule. Although, the source of the dairy could also raise a few questions. If the source is from a cow with an infection, (or in a milkshake for that matter) it stands to reason it could make the average person feel sick. ____________________ Design © 2009 Stark Once for the Super Dave TV show I was the stuntman that fell down the entire wtc stairwell. ~ jargon

Posted by Synthetekh Most importantly, don't just believe something because it's the status quo. Most people make that mistake all the time because they're unwilling to accept anything that challenges what they already believe and what goes against popular belief or even so called "common knowledge." This isn't a question of me trying to maintain status quo. Please, using science and chemistry explain to me how untainted milk from a healthy cow is worse for humans than the majority of other dietary options, that it merits being cut entirely. And in return, I would like to offer that just because Oprah or Dr. Oz or some other media personality (or publication) attempts to warn its demographic to steer clear of whatever the new demonized food is, unless they can provide chemically empirical evidence that said food is bad for you, their opinions should be taken with a grain of salt as well. For every pro-milk campaign there is an anti-milk campaign, and for every producer of milk, there is a producer of a milk alternative that would love to see their competition crushed. If it works for you on a personal level to cut out milk, then by all means continue to do so. But implying that the consumption of milk by others is an ignorant act, is, itself, an ignorant act. ____________________ Design © 2009 Stark Once for the Super Dave TV show I was the stuntman that fell down the entire wtc stairwell. ~ jargon

Posted by Synthetekh I said that just believing what other people tell you, whatever it is, isn't necessarily going to give you the correct answer to what you want to know. This also applies to you. Given that your ideas about health and nutrition directly mimic those of the new 'organic is best' mentality, it gives me just as much reason to discount your way of thinking as it does my own. I've listened to people preach about the dangerous side effects of milk before, yet none have produced evidence that extends beyond 'it's not natural,' which is a mentality you have reflected as well. Much of what we have now (including modern medicine) is not natural. Just because something isn't paralleled by nature doesn't make it inherently bad for the body. Sure, consuming dairy products is not necessary. But neither is consuming fruits, vegetables, meat, or grains. When approached intelligently, any one of those food groups can, and has been healthily cut from the human diet before. My point is, while you are free to cut milk from your diet if you wish, know that true lactose intolerance (not induced) is the exception in humans, not the rule. In the average person, there is no reason to deprive yourself of milk unless you invent one. ____________________ Design © 2009 Stark Once for the Super Dave TV show I was the stuntman that fell down the entire wtc stairwell. ~ jargon