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Posted on 11-02-10 08:47 PM Link | Quote | ID: 137617


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Looks like it's hurting everyone else more than it's hurting you. In fact, it's apparently more damaging for society than heroin.

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Posted on 11-02-10 09:35 PM Link | Quote | ID: 137618


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Last view: 1936 days 		Honestly, to me, that doesn't sound accurate.

I would say crack would be more dangerous because it creates a want in people, who will make them do literally ANYTHING to get it.

Crack and Alcohol should be switched IMHO. That or Heroin's rate should be more accurate. But that's my opinion.

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mushrooms are drugs??

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Last view: 2881 days 		I think this is probably accurate anyways because many many people drink alcohol, where as very very few people use crack...

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Posted by Kiokuffiib11
I would say crack would be more dangerous because it creates a want in people, who will make them do literally ANYTHING to get it.
Have you never seen an actual alcoholic, then?

If you factor out the difference in availability of either drug in our culture, you at the very least won't notice much of a difference.



Relatedly, I remember reading a feuilleton article where the author contended that just as smoking is in the process of getting marginalized at a pace and to a degree that nobody would have thought possible fifty years ago, the time will come soon enough when alcohol, too, will successfully be wiped from society regardless of any tradition that might be associated with it. While he made a compelling point about recent developments paralleling the beginning of the downfall of smoking (the alcohol industry being gradually pushed into the defensive with all the "drink responsibly" disclaimers just like cool rugged cowboys had to make way for "smoking can lead to erectile dysfunction"), I still was not convinced to a degree that I would repeat his prophecy affirmatively. What do you think?

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Well at least in the states, they tried getting rid of alcohol once, and it didn't really work. I imagine to be effective, it would need to become socially sanctioned, like smoking. Which would be considerably more difficult, since drinking doesn't have the immediate, unavoidable, negative effect for everyone that smoking does (secondhand smoke). If the next step as a society is to remove alcohol from mainstream use, they're up against something a bit harder. It would require that pop culture quit glorifying its use, and since most modern media is perpetuated in one form or another, they'll have their work cut out for them erasing the past.

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Posted on 11-03-10 03:06 PM (rev. 2 of 11-03-10 08:59 PM) Link | Quote | ID: 137631


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Posted by blackhole89
Posted by Kiokuffiib11
I would say crack would be more dangerous because it creates a want in people, who will make them do literally ANYTHING to get it.
Have you never seen an actual alcoholic, then?

If you factor out the difference in availability of either drug in our culture, you at the very least won't notice much of a difference.



Relatedly, I remember reading a feuilleton article where the author contended that just as smoking is in the process of getting marginalized at a pace and to a degree that nobody would have thought possible fifty years ago, the time will come soon enough when alcohol, too, will successfully be wiped from society regardless of any tradition that might be associated with it. While he made a compelling point about recent developments paralleling the beginning of the downfall of smoking (the alcohol industry being gradually pushed into the defensive with all the "drink responsibly" disclaimers just like cool rugged cowboys had to make way for "smoking can lead to erectile dysfunction"), I still was not convinced to a degree that I would repeat his prophecy affirmatively. What do you think?

Alcoholism might be on the decline but there's nothing wrong with recreational drug usage.

Also what if you like abusing people as well as alcohol?
e: or if you like abuse but not alcohol

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mushrooms are drugs??

Some of them are.

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Posted on 11-12-10 01:57 PM (rev. 2 of 11-12-10 01:58 PM) Link | Quote | ID: 137868

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Posted by blackhole89
Have you never seen an actual alcoholic, then?
The most uncomfortable situation I been in my life, involved a middle-aged alcoholic. In the middle of the day, when I was commuting to a university lecture. Guy was not only social in the creepy way, he was insisting on pulling on my books, slapping at my knee (for no reason at all wtf) and all that.

So yes, I believe the claim with alcohol being on top after that encounter.

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Posted by blackhole89
Have you never seen an actual alcoholic, then?
The most uncomfortable situation I been in my life, involved a middle-aged alcoholic. In the middle of the day, when I was commuting to a university lecture. Guy was not only social in the creepy way, he was insisting on pulling on my books, slapping at my knee (for no reason at all wtf) and all that.

So yes, I believe the claim with alcohol being on top after that encounter.

Ailure that is just you being socially-awkward and having lots of autism. That sort of drunk is completely harmless, the bad type that's ostensibly the subject of this study goes home from the bar in the middle of the night (maybe hitting some people on the way) and beating his wife and kids for no especial reason.

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He was acting rather confused and violent actually.

On the other hand, I had bit of a schadenfreude when I realized he bought several train tickets, all wrong and took the train going in the wrong direction.

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Posted by Ailure
He was acting rather confused and violent actually.

On the other hand, I had bit of a schadenfreude when I realized he bought several train tickets, all wrong and took the train going in the wrong direction.

Ah, sorry, I guess I sort of forced my (probably very American) impressions of the "alcoholic on the bus" which over here is inevitably associated with the homeless, (often) mentally-deranged population considered to be a menace and a threat to those around them (and most importantly an eyesore) despite their relatively high victimization at the hands of authority figures (police, etc) as well as pretty much the rest of society, including the marginally-better-off lower class. All I'm saying is that these people who'd be called mentally ill are usually in a different category than the everyday violent drunk, and in my experience, in a position more likely to be the abused than the abuser. Many of the women (and men as well) in such positions are indeed drug (ab)users and because of their mental state are at high risk of violence and sexual exploitation, and I hate to say it, but they end up as roadkill not too infrequently and treated not too dissimilar at the hospital and, eventually, the morgue.

Of course we have our violent alcoholics here, but drinking and driving--which by the way must account for an absurd proportion of drug-related deaths/damages--is preferable to *shudder* using public transportation here.

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Posted on 11-22-10 03:21 AM Link | Quote | ID: 138065

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Posted by Lilmario
Cannibis has to be much lower on that chart.

*Cannabis
And, I think it's decent where it is.

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Cannibis has to be much lower on that chart.

*Cannabis
And, I think it's decent where it is.

Cannabis is intrinsically harmless, especially when consumed after the formative stages of brain development and through a non-combustion means of administration such as ingestion or inhalation through a vaporizer (either way you avoid carcinogens and many of the other harmful effects of smoking). However, because it has reached a certain level of societal saturation the extrinsic effects such as driving while intoxicated become more prominent.

On the bright side, meth is apparently pretty harmless to everyone except you!


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I would imagine the majority of the "harm to others" caused by meth is theft.
Metal theft and an occasional superhero-caliber fight.

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Posted by Fagotron
On the bright side, meth is apparently pretty harmless to everyone except you!

That's, of course, not considering the massive costs inflicted on the public by sickly physical and mental wrecks who are incapable of doing useful work, sustaining themselves.

Also, I vaguely recall reading that meth causes a heightened sex drive. Assuming that is true, I would be surprised if there isn't some kind of positive correlation with rape...

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Posted by blackhole89
Posted by Fagotron
On the bright side, meth is apparently pretty harmless to everyone except you!

That's, of course, not considering the massive costs inflicted on the public by sickly physical and mental wrecks who are incapable of doing useful work, sustaining themselves.

Also, I vaguely recall reading that meth causes a heightened sex drive. Assuming that is true, I would be surprised if there isn't some kind of positive correlation with rape...
That would be hard to show anyway, because: what if a rapist sometimes uses meth, but even without it is still a rapist [vs] someone uses meth and, due to being high, rapes someone.

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Posted by Fagotron
Alcoholism might be on the decline but there's nothing wrong with recreational drug usage.

Yeah, keep on dreaming...
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