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Yellow Stalfos Level: 71 Posts: 973/1145 EXP: 3037865 Next: 129249 Since: 07-06-07 From: Québec Last post: 3635 days Last view: 2887 days |
This thread is so full of shit. Blame the admins if there's no activity? What the fuck? If people don't post anymore, it's because people are not interested in ROM hacking anymore. That's it that's all. It pains me to say that, but that's the straight line to the point...
If some of the lack of activity is due to outer circumstances, there's nothing to worry about, but if those supposed circumstances seems to fill every possible corner of one's life, well, tough luck, the same explanation still stands. If those who are new to ROM hacking cannot even comprehend the essence of hacking, or are too lazy to search (ROM Hacking is about discovering), then don't expect anything fulfilling, unless you just want to use fancy editors and make average hacks. Contribute to the community or stop whining and get off... Look over Internet, and you'll find very few sites dedicated to ROM Hacking. Really. Many people have their own home pages, and the remaining generic forums are RHDN and Board2. Others are mostly game-specific, with a possible exception for SMWCentral, which has some activity outside of the game... This board is cool because I think there's a good equilibrium between ROM Hacking and other various subjects, like a bunch of Joe's bringing their discoveries on the table in a funky place, where you can hang out and chat about stuff, ROM hacking or not... RHDN is a great database and has good forum too, more centered on ROM Hacking and less chit-chat, lots of translations and most is SNES. This forum is more like a formal lab with guys in white coats. That's just a very broad analogy, don't take it as negative or positive... DataCrystal is also a nice complement to ROM Hacking, and a place where activity seems to go down, if it was ever high in the first place. And of course, the spam attacks don't help... To be brief, I just can't stand anymore that there can still be some people who, instead of just doing something and contributing to the community, still manage to find some time to start threads about the lack of activity, and cannot see the irony of their intervention. That's completely beyond any logical comprehension... |
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Hats Steam Board2 group Level: 121 Posts: 3566/3965 EXP: 19792303 Next: 264393 Since: 02-19-07 From: Sweden, Skåne Last post: 3309 days Last view: 2060 days |
One thing that personally bored me with ROM hacking is that it's... well in the past ten most of the focus been on Super Mario World (and Super Mario Bros to a less extent).
Personally the only thing that interests me right now is Reuben, and that's... kind of stalling now. But I believe in Dahrkdaiz. ____________________ AIM: gamefreak1337, MSN: Emil_sim@spray.se, XMPP: ailure@xmpp.kafuka.org
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Super Koopa Level: 62 Posts: 782/842 EXP: 1936800 Next: 47886 Since: 02-19-07 From: durff Last post: 4496 days Last view: 4020 days |
This board is not very active because there's less giddy children here than at, say, Jul. Also, this forum has a "no fun" policy. Except for rom hacking, b/c that's fun. ____________________ Zelda Hacking Forum hobbies: delectatio morosa |
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Co-Founder Acmlm's Board Owner Kafuka.org 3.14159 Error - Pi(e) Not Found. Level: 16 Posts: 30/39 EXP: 19098 Next: 1158 Since: 07-04-07 Last post: 3332 days Last view: 4284 days |
Alrighty,
Let me add a few observations, thoughts and maybe a suggestion or two. This may get wordy and off topic but I hope at least it gets everyone thinking. (This may turn into a Emuz introspective) I've been around off and on for something close to ten years in and on the Acmlm board. I only peek at both forums on occasion when I have a spare moment or two. Over the last year or so it seems that sometime after Sukasa left the activity began to dwindle. It may or many not have a factor, that's up to you guys to ponder. I am not around enough to explain it or say if it's true or not. A community always looks for it's top levels to keep it in tact. The community is both the people in it, and the people who run it. If the community fails it's the COMMUNITY as a whole is to blame. What does that mean? Simply, non-constructive, empty blame will only serve to further damage the community. In general, websites that use Forums as their main component are dying all over the internet. The one I am currently webmaster on is dying too. Forum burnout can be a cause, lack of interest in the main focus of the site is another. However the biggest killer of all is social media sites like Facebook, and Twitter to a lesser extent. I am not a fan of either site, let I have a Facebook. Why? It's a good networking and communications tool. If you build on it you don't need to create your own community base, you can work from the many millions of people from there. Jul appears to be much more active. It looks to me they are a little more general which makes it more inviting. Appearances are everything. If I was a newbie and I was asked today which one I would more than likely choose Jul due to the fact it looks more fun and open to more than just a single goal. On the subject of killing the IRC if people don't post of the forums. You're shooting your own foot off. Killing the IRC is not going to make the forums for active. Instead you will piss off a lot of the people on the forms and they will just leave. This effect will also work against anyone new coming along. What is needed is new ideas to being a breath of fresh air to board2. When I left the scene in '05 I was burned out and had too many IRL issues to deal with. I cut myself off from everything as it was what I needed. People (even on this forum) barely even remember who I am, and if they do not many know why. Personally I don't mind, it's a side effect of that very thing. Over the years in my Acmlm active days I was everything from debugger, to Acmlm's enforcer (I suppose is the right term). The most important thing I did (or tried my very best) was to try to keep the community growing and flourishing. I used to speak to people via PMs if they looked somehow upset or irritated at another member. The officer's club was one of my contributions to Acmlmboard. It is the only one not "general" that is the same on both here and Jul. I worked at it the best I could. That was part of the reason I burned out quickly.. Maybe that's happening to some of the regulars? I don't know. I'm just a ghost from the past really. If the same thing where to happen with Jul I'd have similar advice. I wasn't there for the fall of the original board, so I can't comment on that either. Since I've been away I've learned two important things relevant. 1. You can't be so serious. Being a little loose is to your advantage. (Why so serioussss?) 2. Forcing people to do things will always end in failure. Convince, yes, plead, possibly... Forcing someone with a negative action (ie taking things away, using force) only makes people want to do the exact opposite. That's it from me for now. I'm going to go back to my Beatles LP (yay vinyl) and get ready for work tomorrow. I am hoping this message will spark some creative conversation. However I am but a humble ghost, ____________________ "You must delete this ROM after 24 hours" |
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Level: 82 Posts: 1280/1610 EXP: 5121234 Next: 87993 Since: 02-19-07 Last post: 3613 days Last view: 4602 days |
everyone knows emuz
e: how's tro doing |
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Super Koopa Level: 62 Posts: 783/842 EXP: 1936800 Next: 47886 Since: 02-19-07 From: durff Last post: 4496 days Last view: 4020 days |
Posted by Emuz QFT ____________________ Zelda Hacking Forum hobbies: delectatio morosa |
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Level: 82 Posts: 1281/1610 EXP: 5121234 Next: 87993 Since: 02-19-07 Last post: 3613 days Last view: 4602 days |
i was thinking of posting some tidbits of general audience-level physics and maths stuff but i'm not sure anyone would be interested--these days people just want things that are practical and real life. Debate threads usually fizzle and i don't know what to think about the general forum and spatula. in a romhacker-saturated community, i guess none of these things are very relevant compared to gaming, hard/software and internet memes that i no longer keep track of.
although jul has a lot of general forums, it still gives the feeling of a very niche community and there's a sort of ingroup bias reflected by the invective towards the outside world at large, its isolation and ultimately a sort of discommunication and disembodiment. if being part of a community means accepting such norms and practices, then i'd rather not be a member of a community. of course i might be wrong about everything, and niche communities might be the way to go (along with stuff like facebook/twitter like emuz said), but i feel disheartened by the loss of a locus for meaningful general discussion; a future in which people of the same language generally cannot find any common ground to converse in unless they all belong to one of these niches seems dismal to me. |
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The Guardian Moloch whose eyes are a thousand blind windows! Level: 124 Posts: 3166/4196 EXP: 21547301 Next: 289300 Since: 02-19-07 From: Ithaca, NY, US Last post: 479 days Last view: 92 days |
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Co-Founder Acmlm's Board Owner Kafuka.org 3.14159 Error - Pi(e) Not Found. Level: 16 Posts: 31/39 EXP: 19098 Next: 1158 Since: 07-04-07 Last post: 3332 days Last view: 4284 days |
Eh,
I wouldn't say a 'niche' is a good thing either. Keeping things as open and inviting to new people helps to keep things going. If you are isolated as you said you will eventually die out when interest is lost among the long time members of the community. Being Open vs. closed is a big away to start. Don't lose what you have, but don't be afraid to mix it up or so. As for tRO3.. We'll we've had some progress for sometime, but we're kind of stuck in this phase where everyone is busy. I'm too busy with work and school I haven't have the time to work on it how I like. It's easier when I have others since I don't have as much to do. Since everyone else is busy too I've kind of put it on hold. PS: If you know someone good with x86 asm send them my way. ____________________ "You must delete this ROM after 24 hours" |
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Cape Luigi Level: 131 Posts: 4250/4792 EXP: 26247588 Next: 177032 Since: 03-15-07 Last post: 3743 days Last view: 3654 days |
Posted by SXI would read such threads, and probably post something if I could. ____________________ |
Emuz |
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Co-Founder Acmlm's Board Owner Kafuka.org 3.14159 Error - Pi(e) Not Found. Level: 16 Posts: 32/39 EXP: 19098 Next: 1158 Since: 07-04-07 Last post: 3332 days Last view: 4284 days |
For a good percentage "myspace" is their item of nostalgia due to the fact they only started in 2003 or whenever that was...
The only point I make is you need to be open to ideas outside the box. If you have that mindset you can come up with some viable ideas that you may not have. Here is one I've had for years.. With the front website you moved over to some Web 2.0 components. You also have your own XMPP server. One the reasons you gave to trying to shut down IRC was people don't use the forums? How about you build an integrated Web 2.0 interface? Sure it's not easy but it meets your needs. Another thing is you could just make a specific topic to see what people would like to see and get an idea of what might be viable. Posted by blackhole89 ____________________ "You must delete this ROM after 24 hours" |
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Hats Steam Board2 group Level: 121 Posts: 3570/3965 EXP: 19792303 Next: 264393 Since: 02-19-07 From: Sweden, Skåne Last post: 3309 days Last view: 2060 days |
Posted by blackhole89There's Usenet too, which actually is something I never touched (other than through Google Groups), but still have a lot of avid users. ____________________ AIM: gamefreak1337, MSN: Emil_sim@spray.se, XMPP: ailure@xmpp.kafuka.org
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