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Mega-Mario
Posted on 06-14-10 02:19 AM Link | Quote | ID: 131985

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I don't use it.

I must say, while it is nice having a secure board after the Swiss cheese Acmlm's board was, this may be an unneeded measure:

1. when people link externally with HTTPS links, other people get security warnings due to the custom certificate
2. it's not like Board2 is Paypal or some other website that transfers sensitive data
3. if there are security holes in the board, a SSL certificate is not going to fix those

Just giving my opinion, and being curious about others' opinions, and mostly curious about why that was implemented at all.

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Cellar Dweller
Posted on 06-14-10 03:11 AM Link | Quote | ID: 131987


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IIRC, it was added for the benefit of users that are subjected to network based content filtering.

What I don't get is why the staff prefer the encryption when they are not subject to such filtering. They put https URLs in the PoRA box when relative links would be better. KP9000 even posted a picture on Jul with a https URL and drew a complaint from Xkeeper.

I don't think that the use of SSL was ever intended to protect against any vulnerability in the board code.

chungy
Posted on 06-14-10 06:21 AM Link | Quote | ID: 131990


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the self-signed cert and nonstandard ports are fairly odd, the first one being a major issue tbh.

NightKev
Posted on 06-14-10 06:24 AM Link | Quote | ID: 131991


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I thought 81 was the standard https port?

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paulguy
Posted on 06-14-10 06:27 AM Link | Quote | ID: 131992


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The host probably just made it easy to implement, and likely there for the sake of completeness. As for why the IRC script links the protected site, I have no idea.

Also, the standard HTTPS port is 443, but that one's used for something else (Kinda breaks the point of bypassing content filters, since a lot will block everything that's not 80 or 443.).

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blackhole89
Posted on 06-14-10 12:35 PM Link | Quote | ID: 131993


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Technically, the board code very carefully filters things in a manner that https links to the server will be turned into http links when accessed with an http connection and vice versa. Of course, this can't possibly affect posts others make elsewhere - but that is the respective posters' individual problem.

As for the self-signed certificate, I don't exactly feel like paying a three-digit sum to $certificateprovider - and using CAcert would solve nothing as most browsers don't seem to list it as a trusted certifier.

For the PoRA box, I agree about the relative URLs

443 is the standard https port, but that's used for SSH at the moment. Given that I don't rely on port 443 SSH anymore, I probably can change that though if demand is there.

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Mega-Mario
Posted on 06-14-10 03:40 PM Link | Quote | ID: 131995

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Posted by blackhole89
Technically, the board code very carefully filters things in a manner that https links to the server will be turned into http links when accessed with an http connection and vice versa. Of course, this can't possibly affect posts others make elsewhere - but that is the respective posters' individual problem.

Then how come the PORA box still has a HTTPS link in HTTP mode? or does it only filter links in posts?

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blackhole89
Posted on 06-14-10 05:09 PM Link | Quote | ID: 131999


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The PoRA box is not fed through the post filter, yes.

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chungy
Posted on 06-17-10 02:31 AM Link | Quote | ID: 132051


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Posted by blackhole89
and using CAcert would solve nothing as most browsers don't seem to list it as a trusted certifier.

Does it matter? it's still *some* verification which is better than *none*.

Sure it's not supported by a whole lot of people (majority of Windows browsers don't have the cert, and it certainly doesn't come with Windows), but still clicking past an unverifiable certificate would be the same situation for those users as it is now. if they cared about verifying it against someone, they can.

Ailure
Posted on 06-21-10 12:00 PM Link | Quote | ID: 132241

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I'm all for fixing the port thing at least, three less characters in the URL's and all that.

Even if not for CAcert, what would be the most affordable certificate authority?

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