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al2fenrir |
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Panser Level: 41 Posts: 198/333 EXP: 444065 Next: 36080 Since: 09-20-09 Last post: 4965 days Last view: 4972 days |
Religion will be defeated by Science
Says Stephen Hawking. I really admire the guy. He almost lay vegetable in his chair, but he thinks more intelligently than most people does. Anyway, just read the article. ____________________ SUPER MARIO RPG EXPANSION MY PERSONAL BLOG Got any SMRPG Hacking related question? astralgamma.nursing-resource.com |
Kawa |
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CHIKKN NI A BAAZZKIT!!! 80's Cheerilee is best pony Level: 138 Posts: 3728/5344 EXP: 30965297 Next: 697684 Since: 02-20-07 From: The Netherlands Last post: 4506 days Last view: 2641 days |
Funny. I was just reading something related on Pharyngula: Donohue vs. Hawking Posted by PZ Myers As for science defeating religion... ____________________ Wife make lunch - Shampoo Opera - give it a spin Spare some of your free time? <GreyMaria> I walked around the Lake so many goddamn times that my sex drive was brutally murdered Kawa rocks — byuu |
al2fenrir |
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Panser Level: 41 Posts: 200/333 EXP: 444065 Next: 36080 Since: 09-20-09 Last post: 4965 days Last view: 4972 days |
LOL. Now that was really clever.
As for Science coming out of religion... is that true? But it's not how it seemed to me... it was like as if people's minds have evolved. As they gain more knowledge, they began to detach from their primitive ways. But there's a question that really bugs me. What happens if religion disappears? Would that be for the better or for the worst? People always thought of religion as a guide to morality, that God fear kept most people in checked. If that fear disappears, what would be its impact on society? ____________________ SUPER MARIO RPG EXPANSION MY PERSONAL BLOG Got any SMRPG Hacking related question? astralgamma.nursing-resource.com |
Kawa |
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CHIKKN NI A BAAZZKIT!!! 80's Cheerilee is best pony Level: 138 Posts: 3730/5344 EXP: 30965297 Next: 697684 Since: 02-20-07 From: The Netherlands Last post: 4506 days Last view: 2641 days |
Posted by al2fenrirDid you even read what I linked? Posted by al2fenrirYou might notice if you archive binge the site a bit, that morality does not require the Fear of God (which itself is a silly argument, you can figure out why). I can't possibly make statements about the future, but let's just say shit goes bad. Real bad. The nonbelievers, having their own sense of morality remain as is, at first. Some believers realise that even without Godfear™, they're still not eating babies. However, other believers - fundies, perhaps - might snap. They'd promptly riot, kill and be total assmunchers. But then what? Well, the others who do have a sense of morality keep the assmunchers down until they figure out what the hell they're doing -- in a morally sound, well thought-out way, ofcourse. But that's just one jackass's hypothesis. ____________________ Wife make lunch - Shampoo Opera - give it a spin Spare some of your free time? <GreyMaria> I walked around the Lake so many goddamn times that my sex drive was brutally murdered Kawa rocks — byuu |
al2fenrir |
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Panser Level: 41 Posts: 203/333 EXP: 444065 Next: 36080 Since: 09-20-09 Last post: 4965 days Last view: 4972 days |
Posted by KawaPosted by al2fenrirDid you even read what I linked? Yes of course I did. Maybe, I didn't get what PZ Myers was pointing out but I did read that link. But, I wasn't referring to instantaneous big issues. I'm referring to small issues that people might neglect, only to realize later that it results to something big at the end. There are a couple of issues really... like having unwanted pregnancies, insulting other people then it leads to murder, etc. etc. Btw, have you heard of Saudi Arabia? They have a low crime rate because of their strict adherence to religion. Their punishment are really brutal but it somehow kept the crime rate very low. Not that I'm in favor of religion. It's just that sometimes I thought of religion as a catalyst. Well, you have to understand that I'm not that smart. ____________________ SUPER MARIO RPG EXPANSION MY PERSONAL BLOG Got any SMRPG Hacking related question? astralgamma.nursing-resource.com |
NightKev |
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Cape Luigi Level: 131 Posts: 4243/4792 EXP: 26247407 Next: 177213 Since: 03-15-07 Last post: 3742 days Last view: 3654 days |
They have a low crime rate because (almost) any crime is punishable by (near-)death. It's not "strict adherence to religion", it's "fear of being beaten to death by the corrupt authorities". ____________________ |
blackhole89 |
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The Guardian Moloch whose eyes are a thousand blind windows! Level: 124 Posts: 3145/4196 EXP: 21547153 Next: 289448 Since: 02-19-07 From: Ithaca, NY, US Last post: 479 days Last view: 92 days |
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al2fenrir |
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Panser Level: 41 Posts: 207/333 EXP: 444065 Next: 36080 Since: 09-20-09 Last post: 4965 days Last view: 4972 days |
Posted by NightKev I see. Well, I guess you're right. My country is dominated by Roman Catholic Christianity and yet, we have a high crime rate. Religion or "fear of God" didn't help much a bit. So I'd guess proper education is the right solution to this problem and not religion. ____________________ SUPER MARIO RPG EXPANSION MY PERSONAL BLOG Got any SMRPG Hacking related question? astralgamma.nursing-resource.com |
Kawa |
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CHIKKN NI A BAAZZKIT!!! 80's Cheerilee is best pony Level: 138 Posts: 3737/5344 EXP: 30965297 Next: 697684 Since: 02-20-07 From: The Netherlands Last post: 4506 days Last view: 2641 days |
Posted by al2fenrirMind if I quote this for truth? ____________________ Wife make lunch - Shampoo Opera - give it a spin Spare some of your free time? <GreyMaria> I walked around the Lake so many goddamn times that my sex drive was brutally murdered Kawa rocks — byuu |
al2fenrir |
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Panser Level: 41 Posts: 208/333 EXP: 444065 Next: 36080 Since: 09-20-09 Last post: 4965 days Last view: 4972 days |
Posted by KawaPosted by al2fenrirMind if I quote this for truth? Sure Jim. By the way, here's your Bambi vs Godzilla video. Well, I guess it's not a pretty good picture, but what the heck. ____________________ SUPER MARIO RPG EXPANSION MY PERSONAL BLOG Got any SMRPG Hacking related question? astralgamma.nursing-resource.com |
Kawa |
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CHIKKN NI A BAAZZKIT!!! 80's Cheerilee is best pony Level: 138 Posts: 3739/5344 EXP: 30965297 Next: 697684 Since: 02-20-07 From: The Netherlands Last post: 4506 days Last view: 2641 days |
Well, that was delightfully stupid.
Kinda like Bill Donohue, actually. ____________________ Wife make lunch - Shampoo Opera - give it a spin Spare some of your free time? <GreyMaria> I walked around the Lake so many goddamn times that my sex drive was brutally murdered Kawa rocks — byuu |
Cheeseum |
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Level: 16 Posts: 23/38 EXP: 18363 Next: 1893 Since: 07-08-07 From: you are face Last post: 4613 days Last view: 4343 days |
Religion still seems to serve a purpose as to explain what science cannot. A means to fill the irrational little holes in our minds like hope and uncertainty.
Science will steamroll over it soon enough. I for one welcome our new scientific overlords. |
Ailure |
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Hats Steam Board2 group Level: 121 Posts: 3562/3965 EXP: 19792167 Next: 264529 Since: 02-19-07 From: Sweden, Skåne Last post: 3309 days Last view: 2060 days |
I heard that some psychologists consider religion almost a human defense mechanism against things that we cannot explain. So we just make up things that sounds believable at the time. ____________________ AIM: gamefreak1337, MSN: Emil_sim@spray.se, XMPP: ailure@xmpp.kafuka.org
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al2fenrir |
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Panser Level: 41 Posts: 210/333 EXP: 444065 Next: 36080 Since: 09-20-09 Last post: 4965 days Last view: 4972 days |
Posted by Ailure It falls under intellectualization further resulting to "Magical Thinking". It is a neurotic type of defense mechanism. Neurotic does not necessarily mean insane, but it is somewhat in the borderline. I just realized that religion is the bastion for people who are too lazy to think and understand. ____________________ SUPER MARIO RPG EXPANSION MY PERSONAL BLOG Got any SMRPG Hacking related question? astralgamma.nursing-resource.com |
Kawa |
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CHIKKN NI A BAAZZKIT!!! 80's Cheerilee is best pony Level: 138 Posts: 3766/5344 EXP: 30965297 Next: 697684 Since: 02-20-07 From: The Netherlands Last post: 4506 days Last view: 2641 days |
Posted by al2fenrirYou've come a long way, li'l buddy. ____________________ Wife make lunch - Shampoo Opera - give it a spin Spare some of your free time? <GreyMaria> I walked around the Lake so many goddamn times that my sex drive was brutally murdered Kawa rocks — byuu |
Ice Penguin |
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Popo Level: 51 Posts: 484/539 EXP: 991896 Next: 22042 Since: 02-20-07 From: Kasuto Last post: 4797 days Last view: 4797 days |
I doubt religion will be "defeated" by science. They are like boy and girl, with one being harder to understand than the other; But they both exist.
*sings* Edit: What I meant to say with that last part is: They will both be around forever. ...until we blow up Earth. |
RT-55J |
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Armor Guardian Level: 81 Posts: 1390/1562 EXP: 4892429 Next: 100420 Since: 02-23-07 From: Wild Side Arcade Last post: 322 days Last view: 63 days |
EDIT: Hey guys this should be in the Debate forum. |
Googie |
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Giant Red Paratroopa Level: 77 Posts: 628/1407 EXP: 4183857 Next: 7272 Since: 02-19-07 From: Brooklyn, NY Last post: 17 days Last view: 17 days |
Pretty good article, I for one can do with Religion™ for the simple fact that people hide what they are behind it. There's war because of it etc. With Science the world can be a better place imho. ____________________ My Linktree |
RT-55J |
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Armor Guardian Level: 81 Posts: 1392/1562 EXP: 4892429 Next: 100420 Since: 02-23-07 From: Wild Side Arcade Last post: 322 days Last view: 63 days |
Hey guys I need working definitions of Science™ and Religion™ from you guys before I decide whether or not to write up a proper response to this thread. |
Ailure |
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Hats Steam Board2 group Level: 121 Posts: 3572/3965 EXP: 19792167 Next: 264529 Since: 02-19-07 From: Sweden, Skåne Last post: 3309 days Last view: 2060 days |
Can't really answer about the religion part, but I guess looking up about Scientific method might help regarding science, especially since that is what defines it. When something is called pseudo-science, it usually implies it's not really following the scientific method... ____________________ AIM: gamefreak1337, MSN: Emil_sim@spray.se, XMPP: ailure@xmpp.kafuka.org
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