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Is Retro Gaming really making a return in the industry?
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RetroRain
Posted on 12-21-09 09:34 AM Link | Quote | ID: 123643


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I've been googling some articles, and I also just noticed that Konami has a new Castlevania game for WiiWare, The Adventure Rebirth. Some people say that it won't happen, but is that really the case?

We got Megaman 9, Capcom is now making the 10th one, Konami is making this Castlevania Rebirth game, and Nintendo made New SMB Wii in 2D Scrolling (with obvious 3D graphics). I'm sure they are catching on to the fact that the classic-style of games just appeals more, and maybe this is just the beginning.

I'm thinking that maybe this could be the start of retrogaming coming back into play. And if so, then that would be the best thing to happen to the game industry in years.

What do you think? Is it likely to happen?

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Posted on 12-21-09 09:40 AM Link | Quote | ID: 123644


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I wouldn't expect a massive revert, there are some games too solidified in their current state (CoD, Halo, etc...) but as far as the Wii and Nintendo are concerned, I believe it will happen to a degree.
Obviously, 3d games will still be made and played and such, but with the current trend, I have a feeling we will see more retro-styled games crop up to satisfy the growing niche.

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Not really that big a return, but due to the Wii's own graphical limit, it's become more of a home for 2D sidescroller games like A Boy and his Blob, NSMBWii, and a lot of 2D WiiWare games. This seems to be going over to the other consoles as well.

Not so much for the other consoles if not a lot more for the Wii, I'm certain, but I'm pretty impressed about how they've circumvented the Wii's graphics this way.

I'm sure more retro games like those are coming at some point. Not so many, but some of them are great to have, like the DS is the home of both 3D and 2D games.

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I think it's more of the developers going 'Oh hey guys...we're sorry. 2D doesn't actually suck.'

Ailure
Posted on 12-23-09 02:52 AM Link | Quote | ID: 123823

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Posted by RetroRain
I'm thinking that maybe this could be the start of retrogaming coming back into play. And if so, then that would be the best thing to happen to the game industry in years.
There always been crap games, and some of my favorite games was released this decade infact. I don't think it will automatically make a game better because it's "retro".

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Posted on 12-23-09 03:35 AM Link | Quote | ID: 123827


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Posted by Xenesis
I think it's more of the developers going 'Oh hey guys...we're sorry. 2D doesn't actually suck.'

This. Some things just don't work in 3D. Good games will always be good no matter what style they're in.

RetroRain
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Posted by Ailure
There always been crap games, and some of my favorite games was released this decade infact. I don't think it will automatically make a game better because it's "retro".
I didn't say it would. What I'm saying is that I think in today's generation of game development, there is no love. These companies feel that games are all about the graphics and 3D environments, and it's not true. Gameplay is more important, and I feel they have lost sight of that.

There is a bigger quantity of better games on the previous generation of consoles (NES, Super NES, Genesis, PlayStation, N64), where as the more we advance in gaming technologly, these companies are like "gamers want better graphics, they want realistic environments", and this is such a bullshit way of thinking.

Retro games focus more on gameplay because they don't have these super graphics, and notice how popular they are. Gee, I wonder why?

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Posted on 12-23-09 07:57 PM Link | Quote | ID: 123891


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The Wii is perfectly capable of producing high quality and 3D games. Wii is not technically limited at all other than how far it can push its graphics and sound. If we can get stuff like Ocarina of Time, Goldeneye 007 and Conker's Bad Fur Day on something like the Nintendo 64, then the Wii can easily produce complex and immersing games. I also don't think retro gaming is necessarily making a come back. There's just now a viable platform to give use 2D sprite based games on something other than a hand held: online game services. Today companies can use their resources to create a small game very cheaply by releasing it in online form only, there for they don't have to worry about producing the disks, physical manual, shipping it to stores, etc. They can just make it, test it, upload it to a server and reel in the cash.

The idea behind "better gfx = better game" doesn't exactly hold true. People won't play a game that's not fun, no matter how good the gfx are. Some people find the experience of the entire game to be fun (gfx, sound, story, etc) while others judge it based strictly on game play. Then there's the rare game that achieves a balance every once and a while.

At any rate, the very idea that a game is considered retro just because it uses a 2D platforming formula doesn't hold with me. Megaman 9 I would consider retro. It's simple, fast pace, requires quick skills, it looks and feels like playing an NES game. NSMBWii does not feel like a retro game. If they took out things such as rotating platforms, huge levels that a camera can zoom out on to see more of, 4 simultaneous players, the wii motion features of the control scheme, etc, then yeah, it might feel retroish then.

At any rate, there are plenty of modern games that are just as fun of not MORE fun than games of the past. I think the problem lies in the fact that people want to reproduce the "fresh" and "this is new and wow" aspect they felt the first few years of their video gaming life. People who started out on SNES think NES prequels aren't that great, people who started out on PSX/N64 think SNES and before weren't that great and so on. It's all relative to where you started your video gaming life.

Keiya633
Posted on 12-25-09 03:37 AM Link | Quote | ID: 124035


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I like where DahrkDaiz is going, and I'm thinking what people could possible be thinking is if you started on the SNES or the NES, you notice games of that quality and feel are no longer being produced. There are plenty of gamers who are 'dissatisfied' with today's games because it doesn't bring them back, which is one reason why you see so many old school games being hacked to give the game a new, fresh feel. In order to 'keep all audiences happy,' so to speak, some companies are regressing to their old roots which got the gaming era going in hopes of welcoming back those who've given up on gaming. Meh, I don't really know where I'm going with this-- the way to look at it is if making a series of retro games will recover gaming industries. For Capcom, this seems to be a wise move because aside from Nintendo, I'd say they were the biggest contributor to making games and creating popular franchises.

Hopefully this makes some sort of sense?

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Posted on 12-25-09 05:01 AM Link | Quote | ID: 124039


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What Keiya and Dahrk said.
Posted by DahrkDaiz
People won't play a game that's not fun, no matter how good the gfx are.

You must not know any PS3 owners, then.

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Posted on 12-30-09 04:30 AM Link | Quote | ID: 124530


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They seem to be coming back in a sense. To me, it seems like retro games like NSMBW, Megaman 9 and 10, and whatnot, are made not so much for the nostalgia factor, but because they're so much easier and cheaper to make (MM9 and 10 especially). This is, of course, not to say that they're bad games by any means. It just kinda looks that way to me.

Pretty gfx are always nice, but I'd take a fun game with crappy gfx over a busted game with beautiful gfx any day.

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Nikolaj
Posted on 12-31-09 04:58 PM Link | Quote | ID: 124639


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Posted by Bukkarooo
Pretty gfx are always nice, but I'd take a fun game with crappy gfx over a busted game with beautiful gfx any day.

Like Super Mario Bros 1

DahrkDaiz
Posted on 12-31-09 05:08 PM Link | Quote | ID: 124640


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In all fairness, Super Mario Bros. 1 was graphically leaps and bounds better than any other platformer of its time. It had generated backgrounds, many sprite animations and was very colorful.

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