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| Main - General Chat - Why does Nintendo do what they do? | New thread | New reply |
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 Porcupo Level: 40 Posts: 64/313 EXP: 407114 Next: 34195 Since: 07-10-09 From: Marquette, Michigan Last post: 3314 days Last view: 1936 days |
Has anyone noticed, when porting Japanese games over to American carts, they remove the Stupidest things, or change the stupidest things, that they don't need to?
For an example, when porting bouken no Link (Zelda 2), to Zelda 2, they changed the overworld monsters to slimes. The enemies look ALOT better on the Japanese version. Things like that. Why do they do that? ____________________ セシル |
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 Ninji Level: 35 Posts: 51/243 EXP: 276907 Next: 3029 Since: 09-10-09 From: World 5 Last post: 4280 days Last view: 464 days |
Hmm, I had no idea they did that... I thought most of the stuff changed was just censorship of sexual/religious things and needlessly changing characters' names in order to piss off a whole bunch of people. ____________________ Back from the beyond. |
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Provide for us lazy people a screenshot comparison. ____________________ we're currently experiencing some technical difficulties |
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Porcupo Level: 40 Posts: 68/313 EXP: 407114 Next: 34195 Since: 07-10-09 From: Marquette, Michigan Last post: 3314 days Last view: 1936 days |
Believe it or not, that was one of the videos I was watching before I mentioned this.
Pay close attention to the monsters on the overhead map. But they don't just do it in this game, they do it in MANY. Castlevania III they remove most of the altar on the intro, but, still leave the cross in. They just dumb it down. Another disgrace, and I mean total disgrace is "Kamen no Ninja - Hanamaru" turned into "Yo! noid". They changed the music on the first few stages, and the graphics, but, toward the end they didn't even try to change things, at all. They left most of the last few stages the same graphics wise. It's nothing but a "Fancy" text and graphics change. It was a bad change. ____________________ セシル |
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 Yellow Stalfos Level: 71 Posts: 913/1145 EXP: 3036175 Next: 130939 Since: 07-06-07 From: Québec Last post: 3628 days Last view: 2880 days |
This is because of the difference between both systems. Nintendo and Famicom don't have the same specs, and they don't use the same ROM support. The Nintendo uses cartridges, the Famicom uses disks...
And it pains me to say this, but somethimes modifications are of policital nature. In other words, stupid nature... |
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 Boomerang Brother Z is Superior! Level: 66 Posts: 384/1016 EXP: 2387486 Next: 74365 Since: 06-10-09 Last post: 4433 days Last view: 2912 days |
Posted by Kiokuffiib11 I guess that's how they make their money.  I'm also not sure why this doesn't have to be in the Gaming section.Posted by Kiokuffiib11 Misspelled. ____________________ No quotes found; we apologize for the inconvenience. Commas, question marks, and semicolons are available, though. |
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 CHIKKN NI A BAAZZKIT!!! 80's Cheerilee is best pony Level: 138 Posts: 2549/5344 EXP: 30948654 Next: 714327 Since: 02-20-07 From: The Netherlands Last post: 4499 days Last view: 2635 days |
Posted by TraxSay whaaaaa-? No! Both are cartridge based! The Famicom Disk System was an add-on. ____________________ Wife make lunch - Shampoo Opera - give it a spin Spare some of your free time? <GreyMaria> I walked around the Lake so many goddamn times that my sex drive was brutally murdered Kawa rocks  — byuu |
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Level: 99 Posts: 510/2602 EXP: 9756920 Next: 243080 Since: 07-12-09 Last post: 4499 days Last view: 4485 days |
Posted by zbyte Who cares? On topic: The fact that the formats are different make some changes sensible, but the political changes are retarded... |
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CHIKKN NI A BAAZZKIT!!! 80's Cheerilee is best pony Level: 138 Posts: 2550/5344 EXP: 30948654 Next: 714327 Since: 02-20-07 From: The Netherlands Last post: 4499 days Last view: 2635 days |
Except they're not at all different. The Famicom had an underutilized microphone and unremovable controllers with only player one having the Start button, but they were not that much different from a software POV.
It's not a fact, it's a falsehood. Oh, and some sound differences. But still, if it's not for regional lockout measures, American/European carts can run on a Famicom and vice versa. ____________________ Wife make lunch - Shampoo Opera - give it a spin Spare some of your free time? <GreyMaria> I walked around the Lake so many goddamn times that my sex drive was brutally murdered Kawa rocks — byuu |
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 Spike fuck~ Level: 58 Posts: 714/722 EXP: 1537088 Next: 40458 Since: 02-19-07 From: Pittsburgh, PA Last post: 5292 days Last view: 2579 days |
I think it really boils down to a few things
hardware/space issues: from disk to cart, or because translated text takes up more room. Or maybe the NES doesn't have the extra sound channels you'd like. political issues: religion fits in with this. lots of crosses, references to beer or smoking are removed. aesthetic issues/Finishing touches: sometimes graphics are improved upon, compare dragon quest and dragon warrior. Maybe the game was released in a rush in Japan, and more work was done on it before it got released in america. I'd have to say most of the changes that take place fit in the first two. ____________________ |
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CHIKKN NI A BAAZZKIT!!! 80's Cheerilee is best pony Level: 138 Posts: 2551/5344 EXP: 30948654 Next: 714327 Since: 02-20-07 From: The Netherlands Last post: 4499 days Last view: 2635 days |
Not you too, setz, not you too. The Famicom Disk System is not the same thing as the Famicom, and you too make it sound like it is!
The rest of your points are perfectly valid though. ____________________ Wife make lunch - Shampoo Opera - give it a spin Spare some of your free time? <GreyMaria> I walked around the Lake so many goddamn times that my sex drive was brutally murdered Kawa rocks — byuu |
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Armor Guardian Level: 81 Posts: 1271/1562 EXP: 4889799 Next: 103050 Since: 02-23-07 From: Wild Side Arcade Last post: 315 days Last view: 56 days |
Posted by Kawa Probably the most significant difference between the Famicom and American NES* is that the latter lacks support for sound expansion chips on carts.** This meant that for games that used extra sound chips, the soundtrack would have to be recomposed to fit into the NES's limitations (Castlevania 3) or not released in America all together (Gimmick!). *The European NES, on the other hand, is just like the Famicom in this regard. **IIRC, the "sealed port" on the bottom of the NES has sound ext. support, but it was never used. |
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Spike fuck~ Level: 58 Posts: 716/722 EXP: 1537088 Next: 40458 Since: 02-19-07 From: Pittsburgh, PA Last post: 5292 days Last view: 2579 days |
Posted by Kawa Posted by "setz" or, or. ____________________ |
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 Rex Level: 51 Posts: 416/533 EXP: 960440 Next: 53498 Since: 08-23-07 From: Las Vegas Last post: 4446 days Last view: 4248 days |
On a related matter, you should see what Nintendo did when they ported Wolfenstein 3D to the Super NES. lulz. |
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Porcupo Level: 40 Posts: 71/313 EXP: 407114 Next: 34195 Since: 07-10-09 From: Marquette, Michigan Last post: 3314 days Last view: 1936 days |
That, personally was a big disappointment. BIG disappointment. ____________________ セシル |
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CHIKKN NI A BAAZZKIT!!! 80's Cheerilee is best pony Level: 138 Posts: 2563/5344 EXP: 30948654 Next: 714327 Since: 02-20-07 From: The Netherlands Last post: 4499 days Last view: 2635 days |
Posted by chungyI saw. I understand that iD software was so miffed, they practically -gave- Wisdom Tree the resources to make Super Noah's Ark 3D. ____________________ Wife make lunch - Shampoo Opera - give it a spin Spare some of your free time? <GreyMaria> I walked around the Lake so many goddamn times that my sex drive was brutally murdered Kawa rocks — byuu |
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Porcupo Level: 40 Posts: 72/313 EXP: 407114 Next: 34195 Since: 07-10-09 From: Marquette, Michigan Last post: 3314 days Last view: 1936 days |
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Kawa: I saw. I understand that iD software was so miffed, they practically -gave- Wisdom Tree the resources to make Super Noah's Ark 3D. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I didn't know that. Sou that's what happened. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: Bukkarooo: As to the "why?" for this, I have no idea. People are stupid, I guess. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I think Nintendo DOES think people are stupid, and/or can't handle the difficulty of things. You ever note how much dumbed down some of the games we get are? Like the Japanese versions are harder, and we only get the easy types. ____________________ セシル |
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 Cape Luigi Level: 131 Posts: 3855/4792 EXP: 26233250 Next: 191370 Since: 03-15-07 Last post: 3736 days Last view: 3648 days |
Posted by Kiokuffiib11There's a quote link on each post, you know. Also, [ quote=name ]text[ /quote ]. ____________________ |
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