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KrayzeeGuy
Posted on 09-21-09 10:43 PM Link | Quote | ID: 115766

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The thought rolled in my mind for a while when I found myself sitting in front of my television playing my original X-Box, the game was a copy of the original Blinx. Now, to me, not saying anyone else's opinion is worthless, but I thought the original game had a great concept, controlling time in multiple fashions while appealing to the young public with an attempt at a mascot. Needless to say that it didn't do as well as hoped, and the game did have some pretty big programming flaws in it's sequel let us not talk about that... but the original still held a spot on my mind. I'll be completely honest, at the time I played it originally, and to this day, I still find it a pretty darn hard game in the later levels, like the Forge of Hours, for those who know the game. But I still am enthralled by the ability to freeze time, rewind time, slow, fast forward, and even record time. Again, honesty here, there were some aspects of the sequel I even liked too, like being able to control spatial aspects with the Tom-Tom gang, or even being able to combine time abilities. I mean, you think that going at fast-forward speed is fast, but how about fast-forwarding yourself while freezing everything else around you? That's even better!

Unintentional run-on sentence-ridden bricks of text aside, the game still has that 'what if they worked just a bit harder?' feel to me, like that this was a bad roll of the dice, and if they tried again, it would probably work even better.

Feel free to throw in your comments, or even talk about games that you too thought were misjudged in a similar nature. Even if it's a game where no one on this board could agree with you, and you like it, it has it's place here.

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For some reason, people hate Sonic Adventure 2 (and Battle) and Sonic Unleashed. I think both are the epitome of a good 3D Sonic game, with SA2 being the best Sonic ever made. Yep I think it just barely beats CD.

And I tried really hard to make Sonic 06 one of these games, but after a very short time I realized that, aside from a wonderful story, shit sucked. It became literally unplayable after a certain part of a certain level.

Blinx seemed alright when I played the demo, but alas, I had no XBOX. Maybe in the future, when emulation has advanced to the PS2 GC XBOX stage, or when I'm filthy rich, I'll pick up a few choice XBOX games (The Oddworld and DOA games in particular).

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I love the idea for this thread, I'm surprised I hadn't made something like it

that aside, I know there are games where I felt this way, but none specifically come to mind. I'll go mull it over and see what I can come up with.

On the opposite side of this coin are games everyone loved but you hated, there's a few instances where I felt this way. One being Resident Evil 4; I didn't like the controls, it didn't keep me interested, didn't amaze me like it seemed to everyone else, that kinda thing. A much better example was Bioshock. It wasn't as revolutionary and amazing as people made it seem. It had a shallow morality system that allowed for only 2 endings, an "open world", if your definition of open world is the ability to go back to earlier levels for no real reason. They also had an entire team working on the water effects, and I encountered a part where water was flowing up into the ceiling and disappearing. How do they let something like that get past them? People treated it as what it was promised to be, and not what it really was.

Granted, Bioshock was still a good game, it just wasn't as amazing as everyone acted like it was.

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Posted on 09-22-09 04:33 AM Link | Quote | ID: 115796


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Zelda II ...

GreyMaria
Posted on 09-22-09 04:36 AM Link | Quote | ID: 115797

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Trax: In that case, then Super Mario Bros. 2.

It was fun, but wow it was difficult.

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Posted by GreyMario
Trax: In that case, then Super Mario Bros. 2.

It was fun, but wow it was difficult.
We're talking Lost Levels, not USA, right? Yeah, I love it, and it was crazy hard. They need to make more Mario games that test you like that.

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No, I'm talking USA.

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Posted by Bendario
For some reason, people hate Sonic Adventure 2 (and Battle)


This is the first I've ever heard of this.

God, there are a crap load of games people don't like that I do... Sonic Heroes was pretty good. I also KINDA liked Shadow, but it had too many flaws. Pokemon Channel entertained me for a while, as did Blinx. Hell, too many to friggin count.

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Posted by Bendario
For some reason, people hate Sonic Adventure 2 (and Battle)

I have never heard this. I love SA2! It is amazing.

As far as games most people don't like... Amazing Island? I dunno. The monster creation was cool I guess. I don't have very many games so I usually tend to go with the crowd favorites when I get the chance to buy one...

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Posted on 09-23-09 02:45 AM (rev. 3 of 09-23-09 02:54 AM) Link | Quote | ID: 115883


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Hmm, let's see...

Off the top of my head:

The Klonoa series. Honestly, it could probably contest with Mario and Sonic if it were given proper marketing and the gameplay were tweaked a little. Klonoa 2 was my "best game of all time" for several years, as well.

The SaGa series. It's underrated as hell, but I fell in love with it. This is basically Square's "experimental" series. More often than not, every oddball idea that originated in SaGa (as far as Square's games are concerned, mind you) has ended up in Final Fantasy or one of their other franchises at some point.

Super Mario Sunshine. I know it was popular, but every comment I see on it is negative.

Zelda II: The Adventure of Link. Yes, I know it deviated and killed basically everything that made the original game great, but it is a very solid title when viewed individually instead of on the basis that it is the black sheep of its respective franchise. An optional difficulty adjustment would have been nice, though.

Dragon Warrior II. A lot of people complain that this is the worst of the series (but this has been said about every entry in this franchise), but I love the thrill of an actually challenging (yet many times extremely cheap) RPG like this.

Mischief Makers. It was weird, wonky and abstract, but damn if this isn't a good game. It deserves a damn sequel.

Kirby Air Ride. I have never seen anyone praise it; it was most likely overshadowed greatly by MK: Double Dash, but I am proud to have cleared all 300 challenges and I'll happily do it again someday. My sister and I spent countless hours playing against each other in City Trial.

Castlevania: Curse of Darkness. Another badly received 3-D Castlevania, but I felt it was a lot better than Lament of Innocence. In fact, I think of all the post-SotN Castlevanias, this one comes the closest to matching the greatness of Symphony of the Night. Call me crazy if you want.

Aaaand that's all I can think of. Maybe I'll post more later.

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Dr. Hell
Posted on 09-23-09 02:49 AM (rev. 2 of 09-23-09 02:57 AM) Link | Quote | ID: 115884


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I'm not going to go into it too much because I'm overly medicated on Excedrine extra strength at the moment, but I'll at least list a few.

Simon's Quest
Zelda II
Majora's Mask
Dead Rising: Chop Til You Drop (This is a biggie, this is actually probably one of my favorite Wii titles)
EA Sports Active
NHL 2K9 for the Wii (Ugliest game of this gen probably, but also immensely fun)
To some degree, Castlevania Judgment (It's fun to pass like 20 minutes, but I can get sick of it quick)
Fun House for the NES (Let's get messy bitches)
I don't know if this one counts or not, Final Fantasy II(J) (This one has more mixed reviews I think)

Marzen
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Ah, yes, Mischief Makers and Zelda 2 are also some of the best games I've ever played, and are either underrated, or not liked.

Zelda 2 is fuggin' awesome. I don't give a shit if it's not like Zelda, it's still grrrreat!

Mischief Makers is so awesome I stole my name from it. 'Nuff said.

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Posted by Mineyl
The Klonoa series. Honestly, it could probably contest with Mario and Sonic if it were given proper marketing and the gameplay were tweaked a little. Klonoa 2 was my "best game of all time" for several years, as well.



I hate those games.

Mainly because of how hard they are. You wouldn't know it by looking at them, but wow. If you want to achieve 100% completion be prepared to spend several lives doing it.

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Posted on 09-23-09 06:36 AM (rev. 2 of 09-23-09 06:45 AM) Link | Quote | ID: 115899


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Posted by GreyMario
I hate those games.

Mainly because of how hard they are. You wouldn't know it by looking at them, but wow. If you want to achieve 100% completion be prepared to spend several lives doing it.


Seriously? I find them to be extremely easy. 100% completion is the only true challenge, but even that can be done with a bit of dedication. Shouldn't it be hard, though? At least nothing's permanently missable... *shudders*

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Mischief Makers is so awesome I stole my name from it. 'Nuff said.

I KNEW IT! Marzen 64! /salute

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Posted by Marzen
Sonic Heroes was pretty good. I also KINDA liked Shadow, but it had too many flaws.
Funny - because I really enjoyed Shadow the Hedgehog despite its flaws (although I still don't understand why it is as underrated and disliked as it is) but never got the point of Sonic Heroes. I guess it's because I played Shadow the Hedgehog first and it made Sonic Heroes seem like it wasn't worth playing to me after playing through Shadow the Hedgehog, despite it actually coming out first. If I had played Sonic Heroes first, would my opinions on the two games differ? Who knows? I haven't played either one since 2007, so it probably doesn't matter anyway.
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Majora's Mask
The popular opinion for Majora's Mask was negative? Source please.

Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask are two of my favourite games, as are a lot of other people's that I know. I've heard criticisms regarding some of the aspects of the games, but I've never heard a unanimous decision that either one wasn't worth playing. I'm just curious and interested in hearing your personal reasons/opinions for including Majora's Mask in your list.

KrayzeeGuy
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I noticed someone mentioned the negative feedback Sonic Unleashed got, and I'll be honest, I loved the Werehog, because those Day stages were insane, they took a lot out of my ability to focus after a while, in my opinion, the Night stages were like the chocolate to the vanilla in a swirled ice cream treat, it balances one another. Slow to help you recover your endurance for speed. That and they did a pretty good job for the platforming in my opinion. Except when I tried getting all the hot dogs for Eggmanland...

I still have yet to get them all....

On another note, one game series that I find is rarely mentioned: Twisted Metal.

I have yet to understand why it faded into obscurity as it has.

Dr. Hell
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Posted by Quick Curly
The popular opinion for Majora's Mask was negative? Source please.

Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask are two of my favourite games, as are a lot of other people's that I know. I've heard criticisms regarding some of the aspects of the games, but I've never heard a unanimous decision that either one wasn't worth playing. I'm just curious and interested in hearing your personal reasons/opinions for including Majora's Mask in your list.


Word of mouth when it originally came out. A lot of people were totally turned off by the fact that it was a Zelda game with a time limit. Said people have since had time to actually play it and enjoy it, but it wasn't the most exciting idea ever when it first hit shelves.

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Doom 3 came to mind with this thread. Everybody loves to bash it, although I enjoyed it quite a bit (and various mods to extend it as well :p). Actually most of the people I know who love to bash it have never even played it (I can name a few people right off the bat in an IRC channel I frequent in...), not even the demo. It's just popular to crticise.

Beyond that.... Zelda 2 was alright, not spectacular. The Game Boy Zelda games seem to be generally disliked but I also liked them.

Oh and I almost forgot, Rise of the Triad. I see it criticized in nearly every thread it comes up, although I loved it (and thankfully, there's others to defend it as well); the over-the-top gore and humar make it a winner.

Dr. Hell
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What?! People don't like ROTT?!
Fuck them.
That's pretty much the best FPS ever, and the final nail in the Wolf3D engine's coffin.

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Posted by Dr. Hell
Word of mouth when it originally came out. A lot of people were totally turned off by the fact that it was a Zelda game with a time limit. Said people have since had time to actually play it and enjoy it, but it wasn't the most exciting idea ever when it first hit shelves.
Cool. I wasn't aware that the opinion concerning the time limit originated from when the game was first released. We got the game used years after it was released, so reviews for the game were more positive at the time likely because people had since given the game more of a chance and had come to enjoy it. The funny thing is that back in high school after we had just gotten the game, I heard a few other kids discussing how they preferred Ocarina of Time because you weren't restricted by a time limit. In addition, they complained that with Majora's Mask you could only perform certain tasks at certain times during certain days (certainly), and that once you went back in time, you would have to "start over" (aside from the main items that had been collected that could be kept despite going back in time). However, I really enjoyed the game for those (and of course, many other) reasons.

Thanks for the answer and interesting information, Doc. I appreciate it.
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