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Young Guru |
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Red Paragoomba Level: 19 Posts: 4/58 EXP: 34937 Next: 840 Since: 03-12-07 From: Notre Dame, IN Last post: 6043 days Last view: 5549 days |
First off, if you haven't seen this movie yet you should go out and rent/download it now. So for y'all that have seen it I'm curious to see what you think of this movie. I think that it's one of the greatest movies I've seen in a long time. I found the whole plot to be completely enthralling and the acting was superb. One of the few suspense movies I've seen that have kept me hooked for the entire film. Curious to know how many of you were able to figure it out because I know that for the last 45 minutes I was coming up with a new answer to the whole story every 5 minutes. |
Xeogred |
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Porcupo Level: 40 Posts: 161/305 EXP: 422011 Next: 19298 Since: 02-19-07 From: Temple of Time Last post: 6118 days Last view: 6118 days |
It was probably my favorite movie I saw in theaters last year.
Definitely an awesome movie. On a random note, you should check out the movie Se7en (Seven). I don't know why, but its one of those thrillers that keeps you enthralled for the entire thing. |
Toxic |
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Red Koopa Level: 28 Posts: 64/136 EXP: 125657 Next: 5681 Since: 02-19-07 Last post: 6100 days Last view: 5815 days |
Well...it's not like it was a bad movie, but it wasn't that great. It makes itself out to be a mostly serious, and play-by-the-rules movie. But then...when Spoiler: Wolverine got the cloning device? I just couldn't take that seriously after how the rest of the movie had played out. I mean, even the Christian Bale twin scenario was cool in my book, because it was more belieable than the Tesela machine. |
AlexAR |
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Koopa Account taken over, please contact admins to reclaim Level: 27 Posts: 29/119 EXP: 102817 Next: 13342 Since: 02-22-07 From: El Paso, TX Last post: 3031 days Last view: 3031 days |
Greatest movie I have seen in years. I don't see how you can possibly say this is a "By the numbers" type of movie. How many movies tell their stories in this fragmented type of style? Where they jump from past and future continuously throughout the whole movie. AND it actually greatly enhances the story instead of unnessasarily over complicating it?
As for Toxic's Spoiler Comment... Spoiler: You have to look at the end result and not the means by which he achieved his result. Yes, the Magical Cloning Device is a little too far-fetched, but its what "Van Helsing" does with it that creates the dark, twisted situation. |
Young Guru |
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Red Paragoomba Level: 19 Posts: 9/58 EXP: 34937 Next: 840 Since: 03-12-07 From: Notre Dame, IN Last post: 6043 days Last view: 5549 days |
Well, I wouldn't say that there aren't other films that jump around in terms of time, you've got Momento and Pulp Fiction just to name a few. Anyways, back onto the subject at hand
Spoiler: I agree, the cloning device is a little far fetched (okay, impossible, anybody who knows anything about physics should know that you don't create something out of nothing. It would've been more believable if it really just teleported him) but it really isn't about the believability of the device and more about how Angers uses the device. Borden is completely dedicated to his art and maybe playing his wife and mistress like he did was wrong but not quite on the level of wrong that Angers is at when he is killing all his clones. |
Toxic |
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Red Koopa Level: 28 Posts: 66/136 EXP: 125657 Next: 5681 Since: 02-19-07 Last post: 6100 days Last view: 5815 days |
@Guru: Spoiler:
I'd make the argument that Wolverine was better than Batman, because Batman killed off his wife and drove away his mistress; what did Wolverine do? He ran the risk of either being the one getting the applause, the prestige (god damn I love that term), or drowing to death. I say that not only was Wolverine's a harder choice, (barring scientific inaccuracies), it was more righteous than Batman's. The reason I don't know their names is because I saw this in a classroom on campus and the audio was horrendous. |
Young Guru |
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Red Paragoomba Level: 19 Posts: 13/58 EXP: 34937 Next: 840 Since: 03-12-07 From: Notre Dame, IN Last post: 6043 days Last view: 5549 days |
Spoiler:
Judging from Cutter's description of drowning I'd say that Angers choice was deplorable. Basically, it's about the ethics of cloning and whether or not that clone is a part of you to which you may dispose of it as you wish or whether that clone is a completely different person. The way I see it, the two Angers are the exact same person until they split. So when they split their entire past conciousness is copied to each one. The one who reappears at the top of the amphitheatre is under the impression that he has teleported while the one who falls into the water feels as if he has just fallen. Now when he goes to do the trick again, the one who was copied onto the upper balcony is now going to die while a new copy will be made to appear up above. In essence, Angers is first handly killing his clones where the death of Borden's wife was unintentional. Maybe Borden could have seen it coming but he wasn't premeditatively killing whereas Angers was. This is entertaining to see entire posts in complete spoiler tags, maybe we should just have the topic renamed so we don't have to constantly put these tags on. |
Toxic |
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Red Koopa Level: 28 Posts: 67/136 EXP: 125657 Next: 5681 Since: 02-19-07 Last post: 6100 days Last view: 5815 days |
Spoiler: My interpretation was that Angers didn't know if he would be the prestige, or the dead guy. Didn't he say that to Batman at the end when they had their lovey-dovey last moments together? But...if Angers was always the prestige, and the clones of him were drowning...that's a bit fucked up. |
Young Guru |
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Red Paragoomba Level: 19 Posts: 14/58 EXP: 34937 Next: 840 Since: 03-12-07 From: Notre Dame, IN Last post: 6043 days Last view: 5549 days |
Spoiler: The way I see it is that each clone dies when it tries to perform the trick. Basically, the first person to die was Angers, then when the trick was done again it was his first clone that died as the second clone was created up on the balcony. The thing is that the conciousness of this clone was identical to the one that dies up until the copy occurs. So the Angers that is alive at the end feels as if he's been safe everytime though he still has the fear that he won't be. |
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