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Xeon
Posted on 03-13-07 03:59 AM Link | Quote | ID: 14570


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This is a far shot, but I figure why not suggest it since I've thought of this idea, even though it might not be a good idea. Granted some of the problems that one might encounter would be not enough skilled people to approve the layouts, be able to spot malicious code/faulty HTML, etc.

Anyway, my idea is that we bring back the post layouts, granted the problems we have had in the past with breaking tables, XSS/Javascript related attacks.

My idea for implementing this would be to first display the layout in plain text, meaning that the HTML tags would all be visible to the moderators that approve the post layouts, making it almost impossible to sneak some crafty exploit code in because it would be so obvious when you see it. Editing a post layout would of course lead to needing re approval as well.

After the layout has passed the 1st inspection, it could be previewed within a emulated page of posts, and any strange HTML glitches that appear would be grounds for disapproving the post layout.

Anyway, that's the idea...don't flame me too bad if it's stupid.

Higsby
Posted on 03-13-07 04:10 AM Link | Quote | ID: 14577


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I don't think we need a layout approval system, heck we don't even need the ROM hacking approval system anymore. But before anyone even thinks of that the Post layout feature will have to be implemented

Tarale
Posted on 03-13-07 07:15 AM Link | Quote | ID: 14639


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I am not all that sure I want to see layouts come back.

I like layouts, but I think what I would rather see is some nicer CSS implementation to neaten up the current "plain" posts, quotes, etc, across the board.

I think I'd rather see a neat, uniform, well-designed board than many layouts, some good, some horrible...

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Flan
Posted on 03-13-07 07:30 AM Link | Quote | ID: 14642


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I'm going to have to agree with Tarale on this one.

Tarale
Posted on 03-13-07 07:57 AM Link | Quote | ID: 14650


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<!--stupid center and width hack-->
And I'd like to see multiple board layouts, too

But yes, I would really love to see the board as a whole look gorgeous, not just a handful of users' posts.

I'd start with some padding on the inside of these text boxes! My text is all squishied against the borders!

And some nice visual seperation with quotes....

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Kles
Posted on 03-13-07 12:09 PM Link | Quote | ID: 14681


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I agree with Tarale. Honestly, even though individual posts could look cool, overall they just didn't flow with each other well. General beautification would be great.

Kernal
Posted on 03-13-07 02:19 PM Link | Quote | ID: 14707

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Layouts aren't really needed...they load really slowly on dialup (yes, some people still have dialup. I have cable at my apartment, but when I visit my parents I'm stuck with dialup.), they tend to distract from the post content (especially when there is a scroll bar or the post text uses only a small area of the table cell), peop0le tend to use tiny fonts, and not everyone has the artistic talent necessary to make a decent layout.

We should have signatures like every other board system in existence.

Xkeeper
Posted on 03-13-07 02:36 PM Link | Quote | ID: 14717


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Layouts were what helped make Acmlmboard different from "every other board in existance"...

And christ, people there was an option to disable them

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OoBurns
Posted on 03-13-07 02:59 PM Link | Quote | ID: 14725


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A always liked the layout feature. Like Xk said, it made the board unique and made threads more interesting to read. Of course, the option to block a user's layout should also be implemented, as it's useful to block hideous/slow layouts.

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setz
Posted on 03-13-07 03:21 PM Link | Quote | ID: 14734


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Layouts were a way for me to express my creativity.

If you don't like it, you can take this job and shovel it.

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Katelyn
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I have a really cute (and simple) layout I want to use

Darkdata
Posted on 03-13-07 09:29 PM Link | Quote | ID: 14819


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Posted by Xkeeper
Layouts were what helped make Acmlmboard different from "every other board in existance"...

And christ, people there was an option to disable them


Full agreement. Besides layouts are what pushed me to lean css and html. Why stop that right for other users?

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Xeon
Posted on 03-14-07 01:13 AM Link | Quote | ID: 14881


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I always enjoyed looking at peoples layouts, it let me see different styles of creativity and sometimes gave me inspiration. I mean having a perfect board is alright, but having an imperfect board with different post layouts always put a little hint of happiness in my day. And the post layout approval would hopefully eliminate the really bad layouts before they even hit the spotlight, aka, contrasting colors, bad markup, etc.

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Posted on 03-14-07 03:25 AM Link | Quote | ID: 14907


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I don't think layout approval would be very beneficial. It would be yet another thing that admins/moderators/whoever would have to do, and it might discourage users from even trying to make a layout if they had to get it approved. Bad layouts can always be blocked or deleted. (Also, I'd feel sort of like ||board where layouts have to be perfectly valid HTML. I know that wouldn't be the case here, but layout approval is sort of the same thing, just not as extreme.)

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Alucard
Posted on 03-14-07 07:35 AM Link | Quote | ID: 14974

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Personally, the post layouts were a way to show individuality in a board of quite a good amount of people. If there were to be a post layout generic and variations of it then people wouldn't be able to show their creativity. Creativity is what made the original board.acmlm.org (quite a few years ago).

But as for setting up a layout approval system, there would need to be quite a few people on that "staff" just to go through that and make sure it all works right.

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Posted on 03-14-07 07:48 AM Link | Quote | ID: 14977


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Even without layouts there are a few XSS vulnerabilities. I'm not going to post them, but Xkeeper, they are the same ones I contacted you about on the other board. I could PM you about them if you want, along with some suggestions on how to fix them.

Doritokiller
Posted on 03-15-07 01:38 AM Link | Quote | ID: 15192


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Approval would be truly unnecessary. What I think might even be better to add to the soon-to-be-added-eventually layout feature is a link at the top of a user's post or at the bottom of the left table cell that blocks the user's layout. It'd shave off a few seconds. Also, if layouts are such a nuisance, just turn them off completely.

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Xeon
Posted on 03-15-07 04:11 AM Link | Quote | ID: 15239


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The whole idea of the approval system was also to prevent XSS exploits before they hit the users browser.... thus preventing a large number of users from getting there accounts compromised. I managed to compromise a lot of accounts when I did the XSS in my layout back in April 2006.

Kattwah
Posted on 03-15-07 11:19 PM Link | Quote | ID: 15479


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Posted by setz
Layouts were a way for me to express my creativity.
Not to mention, I just have fun throwing them together

Layouts -need- to come back in some way shape or form =/

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Xkeeper
Posted on 03-16-07 05:22 AM Link | Quote | ID: 15650


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Eh, I'm kind of on the fence again. A lot of layouts were great (Acmlm, Hiryuu, Tarale, a few others), but a lot were just barely not eye-gouging (but not bad enough to be removed...)

For some reason, back in the "old" days layouts were more tolerable

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