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Posted on 08-14-09 02:55 AM (rev. 2 of 08-14-09 03:00 AM)

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The educational style of primary and secondary schools in the US has been on my mind lately. Coincidentally, it is the time of year that the school year begins. This seems like a good time to post some links, and suggest that students become familiar what they have to say. These likely will be an eye opener for some, and confirmation of what is painfully obvious to some others.

http://www.thememoryhole.org/edu/school-mission.htm
This page contains some quotes found in The Underground History of American Education, and commentary based on them. While reading a whole book is generally preferred, this page hits some of the most important high points.

http://cuip.uchicago.edu/~cac/nlu/fnd504/anyon.htm
This is a condensed article from 1980 about the different types of education given to students in different social classes. Things have changed somewhat since then, but not enough, I think.

EDIT: Had to fix tags: angle brackets were double escaped inside the textarea of the preview page.

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Posted on 08-14-09 05:02 PM

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This is a condensed article from 1980 about the different types of education given to students in different social classes. Things have changed somewhat since then, but not enough, I think.

Private education will always be superior than public education; public education is funded by the government while Private is funded through education fees. This lets private education have more available to students while public will have a set budget to work with, leading to better subjects and better support through teaching. There would need to be a lot of money to be pumped into schools to be on par with private education, but even then, would people attending public schools want to have that education? Would these people be able to cope with the amount of work? I'm not being offensive by saying you're stupid for going to a public school, but for people who already find the work at their school to be quite challenging, it's best for it to stick to that. With the credit crunch, more school funding seems like the very least of the government's worries, especially because there is also a war still ongoing and the troops need all the support and the best equipment available.

If public and private education were on par with each other, people wouldn't pay to go private and there would be overcrowding in schools, stopping the people who do need free education getting in. Another thing that would happen would be that colleges and universities would expect an even higher standard from everyone and would make applying for them a lot more difficult. It's already hard for people to get by these days, and if the amount of people out of education increases, there will be a lot less jobs, which would also lead to many people living off of benefits, causing the government even more money.

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Posted on 08-17-09 05:56 AM

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Having two-speed education system favorises yet another clivage of artificially created classes, which is something not desirable. Omi said that private education is "always" better because, apparently, the budget is less restricted. Both can have their budgets set throw different means, so the question is equal on both sides. Private education (pure one) only set their budget via acceptance fees, while public education set its budget through some kind of decision structure...

Comparing the two systems can be tricky, since the decisions do not emanate from the same source. One thing that is sure is that the managers of public education are a reflection of the population's will, independant of the quality of the underlying democratic process, while private education have different incentives because the decision is limited to fewer people...

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Posted by Trax
Having two-speed education system favorises yet another clivage of artificially created classes, which is something not desirable. Omi said that private education is "always" better because, apparently, the budget is less restricted. Both can have their budgets set throw different means, so the question is equal on both sides. Private education (pure one) only set their budget via acceptance fees, while public education set its budget through some kind of decision structure...

Comparing the two systems can be tricky, since the decisions do not emanate from the same source. One thing that is sure is that the managers of public education are a reflection of the population's will, independant of the quality of the underlying democratic process, while private education have different incentives because the decision is limited to fewer people...

there are private schools with endowments larger than most universities

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