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| Main - Gaming - Been playing Pokémon Yellow lately | New thread | New reply |
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 Fuzz Ball Level: 66 Posts: 442/994 EXP: 2438835 Next: 23016 Since: 09-30-07 Last post: 1938 days Last view: 960 days |
I've been playing Pokémon Yellow on my GameCube GameBoy Player. I'm a little bit addicted right now.
There is just something really awesome about the 3 original GameBoy games, Red, Blue, and Yellow. They are very good, and hey, they are the originals. I can tolerate FireRed and LeafGreen a little bit, but I don't care for any of the Pokémon games past Red, Blue, and Yellow. Why? Because the Pokémon were not original anymore. And a lot of the Pokémon were just horrible. The original 150 Pokémon, in my opinion, will always be what Pokémon was all about. Not the newer Pokémon that just got ridiculous, and sometimes you wondered if they had just run out of ideas for Pokémon, which is why they got more and more ridiculous. A perfect example is Pichu. A pre-evolution form of Pikachu? The original 150 will always be the best, and the original 150 are what were on the GameBoy. They were unique, original, creative, and is what made the series what it is. FireRed and LeafGreen were okay, but I like the classics better. When game companies do remakes of games, they tend to add more stuff in. I like the simplicity of the originals. If it isn't broken, don't fix it. And if it is simple already, stick with it. Keep it simple. I like the 8-bit style a lot better. I will never buy that graphics make a game. Because they don't. What do you guys think about the original Red, Blue, and Yellow versus the newer ones we have today? I think that the new games are just horrible. ____________________ My YouTube Channel |
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 CHIKKN NI A BAAZZKIT!!! 80's Cheerilee is best pony Level: 138 Posts: 2246/5344 EXP: 30952779 Next: 710202 Since: 02-20-07 From: The Netherlands Last post: 4501 days Last view: 2636 days |
What I think is that "if it isn't broken, don't fix it" is a very ironic thing to say when talking about the first gen games. ____________________ Wife make lunch - Shampoo Opera - give it a spin Spare some of your free time? <GreyMaria> I walked around the Lake so many goddamn times that my sex drive was brutally murdered Kawa rocks  — byuu |
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Fuzz Ball Level: 66 Posts: 443/994 EXP: 2438835 Next: 23016 Since: 09-30-07 Last post: 1938 days Last view: 960 days |
Posted by KawaHow come? ____________________ My YouTube Channel |
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CHIKKN NI A BAAZZKIT!!! 80's Cheerilee is best pony Level: 138 Posts: 2247/5344 EXP: 30952779 Next: 710202 Since: 02-20-07 From: The Netherlands Last post: 4501 days Last view: 2636 days |
It's buggy as hell and the type advantage table is broken. Need I continue?
Still, they're great games in their own right. Just count the number of cheap imitations  ____________________ Wife make lunch - Shampoo Opera - give it a spin Spare some of your free time? <GreyMaria> I walked around the Lake so many goddamn times that my sex drive was brutally murdered Kawa rocks — byuu |
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Fuzz Ball Level: 66 Posts: 444/994 EXP: 2438835 Next: 23016 Since: 09-30-07 Last post: 1938 days Last view: 960 days |
Posted by Kawalol. I never thought the originals were that glitchy. Yes, I am aware of the MissingNo. glitch, but I never really noticed any major glitches, nor did I find them to be a problem. And the advantage table was broken? What do you mean by that? ____________________ My YouTube Channel |
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CHIKKN NI A BAAZZKIT!!! 80's Cheerilee is best pony Level: 138 Posts: 2248/5344 EXP: 30952779 Next: 710202 Since: 02-20-07 From: The Netherlands Last post: 4501 days Last view: 2636 days |
Posted by Bulbapedia ____________________ Wife make lunch - Shampoo Opera - give it a spin Spare some of your free time? <GreyMaria> I walked around the Lake so many goddamn times that my sex drive was brutally murdered Kawa rocks — byuu |
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Fuzz Ball Level: 66 Posts: 445/994 EXP: 2438835 Next: 23016 Since: 09-30-07 Last post: 1938 days Last view: 960 days |
Well, it is interesting. But I never really had any trouble with that. I think these 3 originals are fun as hell. ____________________ My YouTube Channel |
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 Morton Koopa Feel the pain of those inferior beings...as you burn in hell! Level: 98 Posts: 1508/2410 EXP: 9374985 Next: 279368 Since: 02-19-07 From: Sweden Last post: 4518 days Last view: 4499 days |
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Level: 99 Posts: 356/2602 EXP: 9758430 Next: 241570 Since: 07-12-09 Last post: 4500 days Last view: 4487 days |
I have to agree with Trap here, 251 was a decent number of Pokemon (not to mention still countable using 2 digits of hexadecimal), they weren't overly ridiculous yet. Like Kawa said earlier, the type chart was greatly balanced out.
I must say there were a few redeeming qualities to the 3rd and 4th gen games in the respect that were was a nicer spread of moves that made any type as versatile as any other, which made it easy to make strategies using more than just a few core types out of the whole 17. |
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 Giant Koopa [PREFSTRING:wonderful bounciness] Level: 74 Posts: 976/1292 EXP: 3634670 Next: 18874 Since: 07-23-07 From: Michicola Last post: 4845 days Last view: 4807 days |
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Fuzz Ball Level: 66 Posts: 447/994 EXP: 2438835 Next: 23016 Since: 09-30-07 Last post: 1938 days Last view: 960 days |
Posted by "boingboingsplat" id="113602"Yeah, I guess I can agree with this. The quality of Pokémon has definitely declined. The Pokémon have just become silly and un-impressive, and not to mention that they put too much damn detail into the Pokémon. Compare the later Pokémon with the original 150, and notice how the original 150 are still cool, and simple, and the later Pokémon have detail everywhere, and they just aren't cool at all in my opinion. Too much detail isn't good. Now I prefer the 8-bit style of playing Pokémon, but I guess that certain gameplay mechanics have improved with the later games. You guys have inspired me to play Pokémon Crystal again, when I get the chance.
By the way, that Zelda post layout is awesome. And it's easy on the eyes. ____________________ My YouTube Channel |
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 Cobrat Level: 56 Posts: 652/653 EXP: 1322086 Next: 76090 Since: 02-21-07 Last post: 5344 days Last view: 4845 days |
The original 150 didn't include Houndoom. Therefore, I cannot agree that the first generation had the best designs. Also, Pichu is adorable, and I'm not sure how much of a stretch to have a baby Pikachu it is; it's the third generation games that got ridiculous (Plusle + Minun, anyone?). The second generation also brought us Skarmory, Wobbuffet, Lanturn (say what you like, anglerfish are awesome and totally underrepresented except in Donkey Kong Country), Murkrow (still one of the most stylish birds in the games), Smeargle, Sneasel, Heracross, Lugia, and Ho-oh. I suppose that's somewhat to personal preference, though; it brought a couple of rather stupid designs, too (lookin' at you, Corsola).
Seriously, people always seem to underrate just how crappy several of the generation 1 designs were. Venomoth? Cheap, poison-type Butterfree knockoff. Goldeen/Seaking? Look everyone, it's a fish! Amazing, huh? Not even going to bother worrying about how there are two different purple dinosaur lines (well, Nidoqueen's a bit closer to blue...), or two different western dragons (Charizard + Dragonite; who ripped off whom?) There's also the fact that there were 33 poison types, out of the 151 in the game. Was there any real purpose in having two different plant/poison leaf-stone evolution lines, or two different bug/poison pairings? Why is the huge blob of poison different from the floating huge blob of poison? The correct answer is nothing; both will die equally to a psychic (or earthquake; yay earthquake), and failing that, they have almost identical movepools (ignoring the craptacular Smog, which for some reason, Muk doesn't get). Even looking on the spritework for the games, there's a lot to be desired. Mewtwo, for example, looked incredibly deformed, and the less said about Golbat (and Seaking and Wigglytuff for that matter), the better. Seriously, just look at them!   
(Bear in mind, these are updated sprites. The original Japanese releases had different ones, with a bit less... personality? Needless to say, Yellow has an entirely new set, as well, but they stick much more closely to the aesthetic used by the anime and later games.) I will, however, say that there were several truly awesome designs in those games. Porygon is still amazing (seriously, it's like a duck... from the INTERNET), and Farfetch'd is just weird enough to be cool without being... well... Nosepass. Articuno looks great, Charizard is cool (if somewhat generic), and the R/B sprite for Tentacruel is awesome even if it's a bit ridiculous. (To be quite honest, the majority of people I see in person claiming that R/B/Y were the best are the ones who played it back when they were kids because it was cool at the time, then quit when it became "kiddy", often before Gold/Silver even came out. Ahh, nostalgia, you are a cruel mistress.) Kawa: You forgot to mention the part where Focus Energy had the opposite effect of what it was supposed to, and Gust was a normal type move despite all of the supporting materials claiming it should be flying. |
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Morton Koopa Feel the pain of those inferior beings...as you burn in hell! Level: 98 Posts: 1548/2410 EXP: 9374985 Next: 279368 Since: 02-19-07 From: Sweden Last post: 4518 days Last view: 4499 days |
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CHIKKN NI A BAAZZKIT!!! 80's Cheerilee is best pony Level: 138 Posts: 2305/5344 EXP: 30952779 Next: 710202 Since: 02-20-07 From: The Netherlands Last post: 4501 days Last view: 2636 days |
Magnemite NOOOOO what have they done to you! Speak to me, little buddy! WHAT HAVE THEY DONE! </dramatic> ____________________ Wife make lunch - Shampoo Opera - give it a spin Spare some of your free time? <GreyMaria> I walked around the Lake so many goddamn times that my sex drive was brutally murdered Kawa rocks — byuu |
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Morton Koopa Feel the pain of those inferior beings...as you burn in hell! Level: 98 Posts: 1549/2410 EXP: 9374985 Next: 279368 Since: 02-19-07 From: Sweden Last post: 4518 days Last view: 4499 days |
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 Deddorokku Princess of the Night Level: 47 Posts: 167/442 EXP: 736226 Next: 29977 Since: 02-21-07 From: Equestria Last post: 3707 days Last view: 2070 days |
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 Red Goomba Account taken over, please contact admins to reclaim Level: 18 Posts: 46/49 EXP: 26201 Next: 3696 Since: 05-08-08 Last post: 3033 days Last view: 3033 days |
Posted by SkreenyUHHHHH  |
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CHIKKN NI A BAAZZKIT!!! 80's Cheerilee is best pony Level: 138 Posts: 2331/5344 EXP: 30952779 Next: 710202 Since: 02-20-07 From: The Netherlands Last post: 4501 days Last view: 2636 days |
Yeah, kinda like that.
In chronological order, also from "durr butter" to "fuck yeah charizard":   
 
 ____________________ Wife make lunch - Shampoo Opera - give it a spin Spare some of your free time? <GreyMaria> I walked around the Lake so many goddamn times that my sex drive was brutally murdered Kawa rocks — byuu |
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 Rat Level: 23 Posts: 41/91 EXP: 63494 Next: 4229 Since: 09-05-09 From: 北中城村、 沖縄 日本 Last post: 5011 days Last view: 5011 days |
The original 151 was my favorite, sure, but balanced? No way. Someone already brought attention to the Psychic-type, which consisted of the speed, recover frenzy Alakazam, the Amnesia-abusing Slowbro and of course... the grand prize, Mewtwo. NO strong bug or ghost attacks, and Gengar, a potential threat, is part Poison which makes it easy prey to Psychics. If Sabrina's AI wasn't so dumb and squandered turns using Psywave, she would've been a wall for the conventional player.
Competitive play was where the severe imbalance showed the most. If your opponent had a Mewtwo with Psychic, Amnesia, Recover, and say... Seismic Toss or Blizzard, it really doesn't matter. If you had no Chansey or a Mewtwo of your own, you have absolutely no chance of victory. Nothing could stand up to the embodiment of destruction that Mewtwo was in R/B/Y. All he needed to do was use Amnesia a couple of times and he'll effortlessly sweep your entire team in the blink of an eye. Thankfully, this has been much improved since then. Mewtwo's still uber-tier but there are many ways to properly combat him, as there are to just about every other Pokemon since there's so much variety. Sure some moves seem very repetitive but it opens up so many possibilities-- that's what is so fun about Pokemon is the tremendous amount of replay value. Gotta thank R/B/Y for starting the franchise, but I personally preferred G/S/C way more. Some of the new 100 were way better thought of (and more imaginative) than the original 151. Best music, too.  |
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 Ninji Level: 35 Posts: 42/243 EXP: 276951 Next: 2985 Since: 09-10-09 From: World 5 Last post: 4281 days Last view: 466 days |
Posted by "Keiya633" Not to rain on your parade, 'cause I know you're trying to stress how ridiculously imbalanced that Pokemon is, but I always had fun kicking his ass with rentals on Pokemon Stadium (R2 version has the exact move setup you mentioned, with Blizzard and Rest over Recover). I'd always open up with Thunder Wave, then I'd either have the rest of the team with Explosion usually kill him in two uses of the move or I'd have the other five team members use Horn Drill/Fissure/Guillotine to see how many turns would go before he got one-shot. Ah, good times, good times. Mewtwo goes down pretty easily with that Thunder Wave + Explosion strategy I just mentioned, and no human player is gonna' give him Rest instead of Recover...so once you've cripped him with Thunder Wave, it's pretty much game over for Mr. Pwnage. Of course, having to use two or three Pokemon just to kick Mewtwo's ass really sucks, and if your opponent is actually using Mewtwo for competitive play, then odds are he's one of those brats that brought four more and a Mew or is a cheat abuser. ____________________ Back from the beyond. |
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